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Kenero wrote on 2013-06-11 23:01
Hey guys,
Recently a lot of people are noticing that some monsters are immune to elemental damage, so thus their elemental reforges are not effective against them (though this only applies to Elemental Reforges, if you have like, Crash Shot Reforge or Magnum Shot, it will still deal increased damage).
Below is a list compiled of what monsters are elemental immune. They are found with the proper tags and of course, the compiler of the list is Tetosan, so give her a big thanks.
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Elemental Immune Monster List
Dragon Raid, Suilien Ecology, and Hewuyn Mines Related
Additcted Sasquatch
Black Dragon
Cosickeleptor
Emerald Golem
Emerald Hyena
Emerald Shrieker
Knife Wyvern
Mutant Cannibal Carnivore
Mutant Carnivore
Mutant Rabbit
Skeleton Armor Ogre (Irias2)
White Dragon
White Killer
White Killer 2
Drama Mobs
Big Beautiful Black Tailed Mongoose
Black Dragon
Black Tailed Mongoose
Cessair
Cessair's Heart
Cosickeleptor
Damaged Shaman Protect
Human
Knife Wyvern
Kousai
Kusina
Millia
Otter
Robber Goblin
Robber Goblin Archer
Robber Imp
Robber Kingpin
Ruwai
Shaman Protect
Shaman Protecter
Tupai
Waboka
White Dragon
White Killer
White Killer 2
Lord Mobs
Argus
Big Horn Gnu
Black Buffalo
Black Leopard
Blinker / Beeper
Blue Blind Crab
Boss Hyena
Cave Millipede
Cave Sahagin Fighter
Cave Sahagin Mage
Cave Sahagin Ranger
Cave Sahagin Warrior
Coyote
Crocodile
Dark Skeleton Hellhound
Elephant
Ghost
Giant Black Cave Bat
Giant Fire Sprite
Giant Golden Spider
Giant Red Needle Leg Spider
Giant Skeleton
Goblin Hunter
Goblin Hunter Archer
Goblin Keeper
Goblin Keeper Archer
Goblin Sword Master
Golem
Gold Kiwi
Gorgon
Green Horn Cobra
Green Sarracenia
Gremlin
Guard Light Gargoyle
Heavy Gargoyle
Imp
Invisible Imp
Jackal
Light Gargoyle
Lost Cave Sahagin
Maned Aardvark
Mask Goblin
Merrow (Fake)
Merrow (Real)
New Gremlin Black
Ogre Butcher
Pirate Skeleton
Rat Man
Red Lynx
Red Needle leg Spider
Red Spider Wasp
Sheep Wolf
Skeleton Armor Ogre
Small Golem
Small Horn Gnu
Timber Wolf
Turtle
White Head Lama
Wild Dog
Wild Horse
Yellow Giant Wasp
That should be all with Elemental Item Resistance till Alchemist Hero
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That should be the list, fun facts:
Black Dragon Knight is not immune to Elementals. Arch Lich is not immune to Elementals, and many of the drama/generation/shadow missions are not elemental immune.
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Mentosftw wrote on 2013-06-12 00:23
Good to know. This may be the setting trend for future updates so I guess we should focus on skill reforges more.
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Piconoe wrote on 2013-06-12 00:49
Assuming this still means that us mages can pop these mobs with Ice Spear or Thunder and be okay, right? Hence it being called "Elemental Item"?
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Romanji wrote on 2013-06-12 00:55
Thank christ, I'm getting sick and tired of the world being owned by those dual elemental reforge hunters and the triple digit USD spenders
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drezzt wrote on 2013-06-12 01:14
Quote from Romanji;1104816:
Thank christ, I'm getting sick and tired of the world being owned by those dual elemental reforge hunters and the triple digit USD spenders
Words in the picture in your sig. C:
Sorry, I just had to xD
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Crazed420 wrote on 2013-06-12 01:30
Quote from Romanji;1104816:
Thank christ, I'm getting sick and tired of the world being owned by those dual elemental reforge hunters and the triple digit USD spenders
^
I'd like to see this trend continue. As much as elementals are nice, I'd like them to not be the make or break of whether an item is good or crap.
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Piconoe wrote on 2013-06-12 01:33
Quote from Crazed420;1104838:
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I'd like to see this trend continue. As much as elementals are nice, I'd like them to not be the make or break of whether an item is good or crap.
Agreed. (As much as I loathe reforges even existing) it's fine if reforges give you an edge over free-reforgers, but it shouldn't have total dominance over them.
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Kenero wrote on 2013-06-12 01:40
Quote from Piconoe;1104815:
Assuming this still means that us mages can pop these mobs with Ice Spear or Thunder and be okay, right? Hence it being called "Elemental Item"?
Yes, elemental damage that is increased found on items. Your magic won't be affected since it is the "elemental_item_resistance" tag.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2013-06-12 02:22
Boss tag mobs are rather important too, since you can shave down their protection with shadow spirit and other demigod related stuff (like brionac)
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Kenero wrote on 2013-06-12 02:31
Quote from Aubog007;1104864:
Boss tag mobs are rather important too, since you can shave down their protection with shadow spirit and other demigod related stuff (like brionac)
I wonder what tags will be used for monsters whose protection can be lowered from Brionac.
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Zekkii wrote on 2013-06-12 02:39
Everyone will fear the ferocious "Human"!
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Kenero wrote on 2013-06-12 02:40
Quote from Zekkii;1104874:
Everyone will fear the ferocious "Human"!
Yea, about that.
These are taken from the pack files, so they're dead on accurate, but I have no clue on what some of these mobs are.
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cheese758 wrote on 2013-06-12 03:05
Ok....so basically, almost every enemy that is strong enough to actually make a player desire an elemental to improve damage output is immune to its effect. A high rank puppeteer (who doesn't have the benefit of elemental anyway) is already overkill in hm and elite sms. Now I feel like a moron for dumping 6m and 25k nx on reforges trying to get an elemental on my new knuckles e.e.....
Edit: Besides, NPC, pvp, and bosses, is there any reason to still pursue elementals?
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Dracius wrote on 2013-06-12 03:18
Quote from cheese758;1104891:
Ok....so basically, almost every enemy that is strong enough to actually make a player desire an elemental to improve damage output is immune to its effect. A high rank puppeteer (who doesn't have the benefit of elemental anyway) is already overkill in hm and elite sms. Now I feel like a moron for dumping 6m and 25k nx on reforges trying to get an elemental on my new knuckles e.e.....
Edit: Besides, NPC, pvp, and bosses, is there any reason to still pursue elementals?
Just cause a Krug-sized handful of monsters are immune to elemental reforges doesn't mean it's the end of them.
Really, elemental reforges would be the last thing to ever be obsolete.
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ewire123 wrote on 2013-06-12 03:40
Quote from Dracius;1104909:
Just cause a Krug-sized handful of monsters are immune to elemental reforges doesn't mean it's the end of them.
Really, elemental reforges would be the last thing to ever be obsolete.
You be surprise. Devcat are know to Nerf op thing. This might be a trend. You might see more elemental immune mobs in the future, I'm guessing the harder content will follow the same path. Which is good, op reforge can fuck with old content, but new and harder content I expect to be immune to that shit for balance purpose.