[Mabinogi] - Foreign Mabinogi Small Questions Thread

• Psy wrote on 2013-07-11 04:02

  Quote from Space Pirate Nithiel;1119337:

  I have two pets full of ingots of various types. Are these used for anything in upcoming content or can I get rid of them?

  
  I don't know about the armors released in the zero update, but as for engineering, it only uses Tin, Zinc, and Nickel ore. (And maybe unknown?) The rest of the ingredients are ingredients that aren't out yet.
• Slayerj wrote on 2013-07-12 07:30
  I'm a tad lazy. Can someone give me the info on the master titles for...
  
  Sing, Encore, Phantom Chorus, Meteor Strike, Instant cast, Mobile cast, magic weapon mastery, and the armor masteries and shield mastery.
  
  Thanks in advance!~
  
  Also are the puppet cool downs fixed in KR on test or live?
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-12 07:34

  Quote from Slayerj;1121082:

  I'm a tad lazy. Can someone give me the info on the master titles for...
  
  Sing, Encore, Phantom Chorus, Meteor Strike, Instant cast, Mobile cast, magic weapon mastery, and the armor masteries and shield mastery.
  
  Thanks in advance!~
  
  Also are the puppet cool downs fixed in KR on test or live?

  
  
  +1 and would also like to know what the new diva skills actually do.
• Slayerj wrote on 2013-07-12 07:38

  Quote from Gensokyou;1121084:

  +1 and would also like to know what the new diva skills actually do.

  
  
  I find it funny that we don't have these things edited onto the wiki still...yet every single one of the alch skills has their master title listed there. >.> They've been out for less time than any of the others. :-/
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-07-12 07:40

  Quote from Gensokyou;1121084:

  +1 and would also like to know what the new diva skills actually do.

  
  
  What the skills themselves do or what the master titles for them do?
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-12 07:42

  Quote from Slayerj;1121086:

  I find it funny that we don't have these things edited onto the wiki still...yet every single one of the alch skills has their master title listed there. >.> They've been out for less time than any of the others. :-/

  
  
  Alchemists are desperate beings, what can I say.
  
  

  Quote from Iyasenu;1121088:

  What the skills themselves do or what the master titles for them do?

  
  
  Both.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-07-12 07:54

  Quote from Gensokyou;1121089:

  
  Both.

  
  
  Dunno about the master titles...
  
  
  But Singing = Playing Instrument with Microphone.
  r5 singing allows use of singing without a microphone equipped, and by extension the buff skills and lullaby (although without the mic you don't get the music buff effect bonus from your rank of singing).
  So... buff yourself with your handles equipped without needing to keep an instrument on you somewhere.
  No using dischord without instruments though, but that's neither here nor there. :B
  
  Encore.
  Resets cooldowns on all Music skills.
  Has a cooldown itself of 30 (rF) to 18 (r1) seconds.
  And, hey! It also plays applause for you.
  Heh, make your own praise whenever you do something cool. Can use it just for fun, don't even need to have music skills on cooldown. :B
  
  
  Phantasmal Chorus.
  Cooldown/Duration of 30 seconds
  Sets a circle on the ground along with a backup chorus (the chorus can last longer than the circle and its effects)
  
  Activate the skill by using it, and the next music skill you use will set down the Circle and play the vocal chorus.
  
  Depending on the skill used to activate it, the circle has a different effect.
  
  Battlefield Overture, Lullaby, and Vivace will set down a circle with the effect of "Sigh Song".
  Enemies that pass over the circle will suffer a debuff that causes them to deal less damage and move/cast slower (-35% stats/attack/speed at r1 I believe).
  
  Using Enduring Melody, March Song, and Harvest Song will set down a circle with the effect of "Hymn of Life".
  Being in the circle will cause your HP/MP/SP to regen at a rate of 3 per second at r1 (i think).
  
  
  Besides those effects, passing through the circle will apply the buff that was used to lay it down. (walking over a circle that was placed using Overture will provide you with increased max/min and crit based on the bard's rank of overture and music buff bonus/duration)
  
  Different buffs can stack with each other if you walk over two different Phantasmal Chorus circles that were laid down.
  
  
  Using the Encore skill a single bard can do something like...
  (Chorus) + Overture -> Encore -> (Chorus) + Vivace
  This ends with players outside the circle having vivace applied to them (dat range of effect).
  
  Character walks over the first circle and gets Overture buff, which cancels out the "normally applied" Vivace buff from before.
  The same character walks over the second circle and gets the Vivace buff applied from the circle, while keeping the Overture buff from the other circle.
  
  
  
  So buff music normally applied still doesn't stack, but buffs received from walking over circles will stack with other, different, circle buffs.
  
  If you walk over two Overture circle, the last one you walked over will overwrite the previous one, regardless of comparative effect strength.
  
  
  
  Is this enough or is there anything else you wonder about the new bard skills.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-12 08:17
  Thanks for the info! Didn't see this post at first.
  
  
  

  But Singing = Playing Instrument with Microphone.
  r5 singing allows use of singing without a microphone equipped, and by extension the buff skills and lullaby (although without the mic you don't get the music buff effect bonus from your rank of singing).
  So... buff yourself with your handles equipped without needing to keep an instrument on you somewhere.
  No using dischord without instruments though, but that's neither here nor there. :B

  
  
  So this means that you only do a 20% overture barehanded?
  
  

  Encore.
  Resets cooldowns on all Music skills.
  Has a cooldown itself of 30 (rF) to 18 (r1) seconds.
  And, hey! It also plays applause for you.
  Heh, make your own praise whenever you do something cool. Can use it just for fun, don't even need to have music skills on cooldown. :B

  
  
  I can't see how this will be useful ;_; But thanks~
  
  
  

  Phantasmal Chorus.
  Cooldown/Duration of 30 seconds
  Sets a circle on the ground along with a backup chorus (the chorus can last longer than the circle and its effects)
  
  Activate the skill by using it, and the next music skill you use will set down the Circle and play the vocal chorus.
  
  Depending on the skill used to activate it, the circle has a different effect.
  
  Battlefield Overture, Lullaby, and Vivace will set down a circle with the effect of "Sigh Song".
  Enemies that pass over the circle will suffer a debuff that causes them to deal less damage and move/cast slower (-35% stats/attack/speed at r1 I believe).
  
  Using Enduring Melody, March Song, and Harvest Song will set down a circle with the effect of "Hymn of Life".
  Being in the circle will cause your HP/MP/SP to regen at a rate of 3 per second at r1 (i think).
  
  
  Besides those effects, passing through the circle will apply the buff that was used to lay it down. (walking over a circle that was placed using Overture will provide you with increased max/min and crit based on the bard's rank of overture and music buff bonus/duration)
  
  Different buffs can stack with each other if you walk over two different Phantasmal Chorus circles that were laid down.
  
  
  Using the Encore skill a single bard can do something like...
  (Chorus) + Overture -> Encore -> (Chorus) + Vivace
  This ends with players outside the circle having vivace applied to them (dat range of effect).
  
  Character walks over the first circle and gets Overture buff, which cancels out the "normally applied" Vivace buff from before.
  The same character walks over the second circle and gets the Vivace buff applied from the circle, while keeping the Overture buff from the other circle.
  
  
  
  So buff music normally applied still doesn't stack, but buffs received from walking over circles will stack with other, different, circle buffs.
  
  If you walk over two Overture circle, the last one you walked over will overwrite the previous one, regardless of comparative effect strength.
  
  
  Is this enough or is there anything else you wonder about the new bard skills.

  
  
  This is really confusing, but okay ^_^ Thanks for the info
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-07-12 08:33

  Quote from Gensokyou;1121101:

  Thanks for the info! Didn't see this post at first.
  
  
  
  
  So this means that you only do a 20% overture barehanded?
  
  Barring any "Inspiring Performances" or Music Buff bonus from GM Bard or Enchants, yeah.
  
  I can't see how this will be useful ;_; But thanks~
  
  It's really best used to place down multiple Phantasmal Chorus circles, since normally its cooldown would only allow one to be placed down.
  
  
  This is really confusing, but okay ^_^ Thanks for the info
  
  I think I worded it a bit too "all over the place"-y.

  
  
  Here's a really bad drawing of what I meant.
  
  

  [Image: http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9457/f576.jpg]

  
  
  This can work with up to 5 different circles (probably 3 bards) to apply all 5 buffs to whoever walks over each and every circle. ( a circle each of Vivace, March, Overture, Enduring, and Harvest.)
  
  
  Not sure if Chorus + Lullaby causes enemies who walk into the circle to fall asleep, though.
  That'd be pretty funny...
  
  
  Oh and just to be clear, the Bard doesn't have to stand there the entire time the circle is there.
  It lasts a certain number of seconds upon playing the music. :B
  So slap down a circle and get a move on.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-12 08:38

  Quote from Iyasenu;1121106:

  Here's a really bad drawing of what I meant.
  
  

  [Image: http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9457/f576.jpg]

  
  
  This can work with up to 5 different circles (probably 3 bards) to apply all 5 buffs to whoever walks over each and every circle. ( a circle each of Vivace, March, Overture, Enduring, and Harvest.)
  
  
  Not sure if Chorus + Lullaby causes enemies who walk into the circle to fall asleep, though.
  That'd be pretty funny...
  
  
  Oh and just to be clear, the Bard doesn't have to stand there the entire time the circle is there.
  It lasts a certain number of seconds upon playing the music. :B
  So slap down a circle and get a move on.

  
  
  Hm, okay.
  
  Is it worth it making a phantasmal chorus at all in terms of time? Or is it only to get the double buff?
  
  Since it still sounds like it'd be better to yoink out the reforged lyre, get that 40% overture then go back to doing shit.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-07-12 08:43

  Quote from Gensokyou;1121107:

  Hm, okay.
  
  Is it worth it making a phantasmal chorus at all in terms of time? Or is it only to get the double buff?
  
  Since it still sounds like it'd be better to yoink out the reforged lyre, get that 40% overture then go back to doing shit.

  
  
  Well the circle's secondary effects could be nice.
  And as far as I know, the circle's buff takes effect immediately when it's laid down, without having to wait for the actual buff music itself to take effect (dat super slow harvest song).
  
  But it really does seem like multi buffing is the main attraction to this skill.
  
  And buffs you get from the circle being activated with the buff skill you used get a boost from the instrument's reforge/music buff bonus of the bard that laid the circle down.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-12 08:47

  Quote from Iyasenu;1121112:

  Well the circle's secondary effects could be nice.
  And as far as I know, the circle's buff takes effect immediately when it's laid down, without having to wait for the actual buff music itself to take effect (dat super slow harvest song).
  
  But it really does seem like multi buffing is the main attraction to this skill.
  
  And buffs you get from the circle being activated with the buff skill you used get a boost from the instrument's reforge/music buff bonus of the bard that laid the circle down.

  
  
  Mhm, so it's still only attractive if you're in a super hard mission and want enduring melody (lol) or are partying with gunners that want attack speed as well as battlefield and believe that they can do more damage in the time you wasted putting down vivace. That or you're not steamrolling everything.
  
  Sounds useful, if situational.
  
  Now, if it worked with Lullaby... :chin:
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-07-12 08:49

  Quote from Gensokyou;1121115:

  Mhm, so it's still only attractive if you're in a super hard mission and want enduring melody (lol) or are partying with gunners that want attack speed as well as battlefield and believe that they can do more damage in the time you wasted putting down vivace. That or you're not steamrolling everything.
  
  Sounds useful, if situational.
  
  Now, if it worked with Lullaby... :chin:

  
  
  Laying down sleep traps lol.
  
  
  But I kinda like the other use.
  
  Like... Setting down March and Harvest Circles and running around grubbing up materials.
  
  I wonder if the Hymn of Life HP/MP/SP regen affects gathering pets...
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-12 08:52

  Quote from Iyasenu;1121118:

  Laying down sleep traps lol.
  
  
  But I kinda like the other use.
  
  Like... Setting down March and Harvest Circles and running around grubbing up materials.
  
  I wonder if the Hymn of Life HP/MP/SP regen affects gathering pets...

  
  
  Have 5 bards set up 5 rank 1 hymn of life circles and trans into dark knight.
  
  Infinite trans teh11111!
  
  Bard just became master race.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-07-12 08:55

  Quote from Gensokyou;1121120:

  Have 5 bards set up 5 rank 1 hymn of life circles and trans into dark knight.
  
  Infinite trans teh11111!
  
  Bard just became master race.

  
  
  Lollll
  
  I'm not sure how Hymn of Life stacking works, actually.