[Mabinogi-KR] Free Weekly Rebirth - July 11, 2013 Planned Update

• Zunori wrote on 2013-07-12 16:12

  Quote from SlurpTASTY;1116553:

  I often see all seven channels of Alexina with the busy tag, you other servers gotta step it up!

  
  [S]What are we supposed to do if Alexina still has the "New" tag on it. [/S]
• Eliirae wrote on 2013-07-14 04:08

  Quote from Psy;1120162:

  I'd rather keep the current system. . . JP's revamp also means you can't be age 20 longer. (Where, instead of being 17 for a week and 20 for 1 day, your 17 for 1 day and 20 for a week [right before you turn 21 you rb]. The advantage of this was you could be prepared at any moment in the last week to free RB if there was a DR, and it was still the same amount of time in an RB cycle.)

  
  
  I don't see how taking out the age 20 requirement for RBing somehow changes the aging system. Unless JP mabi made other changes.
• gundamweed wrote on 2013-07-14 07:35
  at first i felt bad about the fact i've spent 850 dollars in all the years i've been playing since g3, from all my accounts, but it seems pretty tame compared these thousands of dollars...
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-07-14 09:36

  Quote from gundamweed;1122233:

  at first i felt bad about the fact i've spent 850 dollars in all the years i've been playing since g3, from all my accounts, but it seems pretty tame compared these thousands of dollars...

  
  If you got enjoyment out of this game, isnt it worth it? What else would you spend on entertainment wise.
• Psy wrote on 2013-07-14 22:04

  Quote from Eliirae;1122140:

  I don't see how taking out the age 20 requirement for RBing somehow changes the aging system. Unless JP mabi made other changes.

  
  Well, the KR version is ONLY better. The JP version on the other hand, what I specifically said I was talking about, changes the rebirth system, not the aging system.
  
  Right now, you can rebirth to age 17 then get to lvl 100 in like a week. BEFORE you age again on saturday, the cooldown between rebirths is 6 days so buy a basic card and rebrith before saturday to age 17 again, then you'd age to 18 on saturday on the new RB, being 2 rebirths per 3 weeks (which is 8 dollars every 3 weeks). That's the 2+1/1+2 rebirth system. Since aging in JP is now based on actual dates and not aging, that is no longer possible. So they except everyone to either weekly rebirth or free rebirth. (That also ruled out a lesser used 2 rebirths in 4 weeks system which I forgot how worked.)
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-07-15 02:42

  Quote from Psy;1122556:

  Well, the KR version is ONLY better. The JP version on the other hand, what I specifically said I was talking about, changes the rebirth system, not the aging system.
  
  Right now, you can rebirth to age 17 then get to lvl 100 in like a week. BEFORE you age again on saturday, the cooldown between rebirths is 6 days so buy a basic card and rebrith before saturday to age 17 again, then you'd age to 18 on saturday on the new RB, being 2 rebirths per 3 weeks (which is 8 dollars every 3 weeks). That's the 2+1/1+2 rebirth system. Since aging in JP is now based on actual dates and not aging, that is no longer possible. So they except everyone to either weekly rebirth or free rebirth. (That also ruled out a lesser used 2 rebirths in 4 weeks system which I forgot how worked.)

  
  
  Keep in mind, NA fucked with the rb system before to be exactly 7 days once.
  
  Lasted for a good while too, and it killed off the 2 week/1 week rb
• Poptart wrote on 2013-07-15 11:55
  I'm about to get a lot of hate for saying this, I bet- but I honestly, deeply hope that NA does NOT implement this- at least not in the short term.
  
  Let's face it- we don't have the population that korea or JP do. Here, every card spent matters to keep the game going- cards and reforges, I'd say, are the primary income sources.
  
  If this happens, I'd expect profits in NA to drop drastically- and they didn't exactly improve as expected the last couple years, even if they were still profitable in general. I don't think NA would survive if they implemented this without having other money making setups in place.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-15 12:41

  Quote from Poptart;1122835:

  I'm about to get a lot of hate for saying this, I bet- but I honestly, deeply hope that NA does NOT implement this- at least not in the short term.
  
  Let's face it- we don't have the population that korea or JP do. Here, every card spent matters to keep the game going- cards and reforges, I'd say, are the primary income sources.
  
  If this happens, I'd expect profits in NA to drop drastically- and they didn't exactly improve as expected the last couple years, even if they were still profitable in general. I don't think NA would survive if they implemented this without having other money making setups in place.

  
  
  +1 this.
  
  I really like how people expect a free to play game to actually be free. As in, Nexon somehow employs people, makes a reasonable turnover and stuff without anyone actually throwing money at them.
  
  Until we get more people throwing money at nexon like KR, I hope this never gets implemented because it will kill NA Mabi.
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2013-07-15 12:44
  I hope CN gets this. We have the population and also the crazy gacha/reforge people to fund the game.
  Plenty spend on services and pets too.
• Perfectio wrote on 2013-07-15 13:11

  Quote from Gensokyou;1122842:

  +1 this.
  
  I really like how people expect a free to play game to actually be free. As in, Nexon somehow employs people, makes a reasonable turnover and stuff without anyone actually throwing money at them.
  
  Until we get more people throwing money at nexon like KR, I hope this never gets implemented because it will kill NA Mabi.

  
  
  How many people do you know that pay to rebirth on a regular basis?
  
  Think about it. Sure you get the occasional rush of people needing to RB for Double Rainbow but I doubt more than 10% of players RB - their money goest to gachas, pets and reforges. And the people who do weekly RB will likely shift their income to gacha, pets and reforges. In addition, weekly RB will increase the customer base.
  
  But we know this isn't about being scared for the game's future, but being scared that they'll lose their place in the totem pole. As with every update that makes it easier for new players.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-15 13:51

  Quote from Perfectio;1122849:

  How many people do you know that pay to rebirth on a regular basis?

  
  
  Everyone on my friends list except for 2 people.
  
  

  Think about it. Sure you get the occasional rush of people needing to RB for Double Rainbow but I doubt more than 10% of players RB - their money goest to gachas, pets and reforges. And the people who do weekly RB will likely shift their income to gacha, pets and reforges. In addition, weekly RB will increase the customer base.

  
  
  I did think about it. That's in an ideal world. However, the world is intrinsically lazy. Just like how water doesn't flow uphill, people take the path of least resistance.
  
  If someone weekly rebirths and buys pets and spends on gacha. They're not going to go "Oh, great! Now I can spend 8k more on nx per week!" They're going to go "Great! I can do what I was doing before even cheaper!"
  
  You usually spend 50 bucks a week on mabi? Great, now you can get the exact same for 40 bucks and save 10 bucks!
  
  People are lazy and illogical like that.
  
  

  But we know this isn't about being scared for the game's future, but being scared that they'll lose their place in the totem pole. As with every update that makes it easier for new players.

  
  
  Who gives a fuck about the totem pole (whatever that is?) if the game is dead.
  
  If it makes it easier for new players, great. It makes it easier for me too.
• Perfectio wrote on 2013-07-15 14:41

  Quote from Gensokyou;1122858:

  Everyone on my friends list except for 2 people.

  
  
  Maybe 10% of the people I've ever met in Mabi weekly RBs. Maybe it's different in Tarlach.
  
  

  If someone weekly rebirths and buys pets and spends on gacha. They're not going to go "Oh, great! Now I can spend 8k more on nx per week!" They're going to go "Great! I can do what I was doing before even cheaper!"
  

  
  
  Some will. Others will go "Great, I can spend more money on getting Fire 6 and Mana Shield LV 20.
  
  Furthermore, gacha just makes more money, especially seasonal ones. I personally know 5 people who spend 200+ USD on seasonal gacha. If we assume a new gach every 2 months, each of those people covers 5 committed weekly RBers. PoPThat ignores pets, Eweca gacha, VIP, etc etc. And again, weekly RB will keep players from quitting, which makes them more money as well.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-07-15 14:54
  If I had more money to spend on mabi, I would spring for more reforges. If paid rebirths are taken out of the equation then that's one less thing to spend money on. I really hope we don't get JP's system though or that JP revamps it further down the road.
• Psy wrote on 2013-07-15 21:20
  Ya, the ONLY advantage of the JP version is that you can rebirth to 10 and get a bit of weekly AP on aging before you RB at 13. Otherwise, it just removes 1+2 rebirth.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-07-16 02:43

  Quote from Perfectio;1122849:

  How many people do you know that pay to rebirth on a regular basis?
  
  

  
  
  Clearly the people who have jobs. Or have some source of income.
  
  The biggest form of advancing is rebirthing.