[Mabinogi] - Shooting Rush Information and Animation

• Kenero wrote on 2013-08-06 13:00
  This was released very long ago, but seeing how Gunner is just a few days away, I figured it would be a nice refresher now that its release date is extremely close!
  
  
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  [video=youtube;fgK_IcXDcjI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgK_IcXDcjI[/video]
  
  Shooting Rush Summary
  
  1. When you use shooting rush, you technically teleport to the end point of the skill immediately, despite being in mid animation.
  
  2. During the animation, you cannot BE TARGETED by the enemy. The end point of the animation is vulnerable though.
  
  3. However, if you get hit by thunder/ice spear, you can still "die" but you will finish the skill and DAMAGE all targets, so in a way, the hits will LAND whether you live or not.
  
  4. It is possible to dodge fireball completely, granted you use the animation to rush out of its explosion radius and not blocked by any obstacles.
  
  
  
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  The highlights is that you cannot be targeted during midanimation... and for some reason it causes some monster AI to do weird things like an archer will just stand there in shooting pose for the longest time until it decides to use a new skill or Shadow Alchemists running up to you with a skill loaded but not executing it.
  
  However if the enemy cast it on you as soon as you execute the skill, you will be hit with it. Remember to take lag into consideration since it may seem the enemy actually hit you in mid animation, but in truth they actually hit you before, but you just now received their animation packet.
  
  
  Short Version: Shooting Rush give you hyper armor.
  
  What is hyper armor?
  
  http://www.gamespot.com/demons-souls/forum/what-is-hyper-armor-54338035/
  
  Hyper Armor: Any attack whose animation or damage cannot be interrupted once executed, even if hit or blocked by an enemy.
• ikamiru wrote on 2013-08-06 13:22
  Is there a skill that you recommend loading after Shooting Rush?
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-08-06 13:29
  So exactly like act 7 with the enemy getting knocked away instead of knocked back.
  
  What's with the sudden urge to call it hyper armor though.
  
  Yes, I am nitpicky about these kinds of things.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-08-06 13:43

  Quote from ikamiru;1132280:

  Is there a skill that you recommend loading after Shooting Rush?

  
  
  There's a whole variety of things you can do.
  
  It's up to you to judge the situation.
• ikamiru wrote on 2013-08-06 13:44
  Is it possible to load skills during the animation?
• Slayerj wrote on 2013-08-06 13:46
  So you can use this to avoid ice mines I take it? Oh battle for tail 2 spam is going to be even more fun!~
• Kenero wrote on 2013-08-06 13:56

  Quote from ikamiru;1132287:

  Is it possible to load skills during the animation?

  
  
  No, only at the end.
  
  

  Quote from Slayerj;1132288:

  So you can use this to avoid ice mines I take it? Oh battle for tail 2 spam is going to be even more fun!~

  
  
  Chances are, if you're stepping on an ice mine, you don't have shooting rush loaded.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-08-06 13:57

  Quote from Slayerj;1132288:

  So you can use this to avoid ice mines I take it? Oh battle for tail 2 spam is going to be even more fun!~

  
  
  
  only if the mine is inbetween point A and B.
• Setzer wrote on 2013-08-06 14:48
  Bring on the hype train
• ewire123 wrote on 2013-08-06 15:04
  Lol hyper armor.... You mean heavy stander? Yep, Act7 have the same thing. You can still take damage and are vulnerable when you land similar to smash animation, you deal the damage but you are extreme vulnerable after you smash because of the long animation after the damage frames.
• Slayerj wrote on 2013-08-06 15:13

  Quote from Aubog007;1132293:

  only if the mine is inbetween point A and B.

  
  
  But of course. XD Like anyone could predict when an lolicemine is going to go off. Yesterday my friend got pissed and used demi during our spam thanks to some archer mag spam and lag displacement. He had been stepping over an ice mine several times before the damn thing finally went off. Of course it only went off AFTER I used my thunder.
• xtraspicy wrote on 2013-08-06 22:21

  Quote from ewire123;1132326:

  Lol hyper armor.... You mean heavy stander? Yep, Act7 have the same thing. You can still take damage and are vulnerable when you land similar to smash animation, you deal the damage but you are extreme vulnerable after you smash because of the long animation after the damage frames.

  
  
  Hyper Armor is just another way to say Super Armor. We use this term in the FGC a lot. It's not Heavy Stander, since Heavy Stander is like a defensive option "triggered" by an attack as opposed to an attack property.
• ewire123 wrote on 2013-08-06 22:27

  Quote from xtraspicy;1132406:

  Hyper Armor is just another way to say Super Armor. We use this term in the FGC a lot. It's not Heavy Stander, since Heavy Stander is like a defensive option "triggered" by an attack as opposed to an attack property.

  
  
  ...what?
• xtraspicy wrote on 2013-08-06 22:35
  If an attack has Super Armor, it means it cannot be stopped.
  
  Ex: Labrys's DP in P4U. Once you press the button, the attack can't be stopped by anything until she enters recovery frames.
  
  Heavy Stander is a bit different, since it actually interrupts your animation; it triggers when you are hit. An example of this outside of mabinogi:
  
  Any Half-Moon character in Melty Blood. When they enter HEAT mode, and they are hit, the character's animation is stopped and immediately performs a quick burst attack.
  
  In otherwords, your attack is interrupted and doesn't finish, however, it resets your character to a neutral state and you can select another option. This is why when you hit a monster with Heavy Stander and it triggers, it immediately exits hitstun and attacks you back since their AI selects normal attack. If you have heavy stander on your armor, and you use lance charge, and say that it triggers when you are hit by a melee attack, it will stop your animation and cancel the rest of the attack, and you can do something else from there.
  
  Edit: When you are hit in Mabinogi, your attack is always interrupted, and your character enters hitstun, even if any of your passive defenses trigger. What Heavy Stander and passive defenses do instead is 1) reduce the amount of damage you take and 2) reduce the number of frames that you are in hitstun.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-06 22:40
  A way of explaining it in Mabinogi terms would be that it gives you temporary advanced heavy stander.
  
  Without the passive defences. So you can't be knocked down/knocked back/be interrupted, but you can still take damage.