[Pokemon] Pokemon competitive discussion (IVs, EVs, breeding, team building, etc)

• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-10-28 02:07

  Quote from Cucurbita;1163781:

  I meant Sword Dance, not Dragon Dance.
  
  Outrage, Earthquake, Stone Edge, and Sword Dance.

  
  
  Well I'll go with Stone Edge instead of fire fang. I also have Tyranitar with stone edge atm though. So I could always deal with Togekiss with that.
  
  

  Quote from Makusho;1163785:

  Instead of stone edge, Fire Fang could also work to deal with things like Ferrothorn, and Skarmory. xD

  
  
  Main reason why I kind of want to keep fire fang on it. Also going to probably add Ferrothorn to my team at some point. Atm I have Tyranitar, Garchomp, and Skarmory.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2013-10-28 04:29

  Quote from Makusho;1163785:

  Instead of stone edge, Fire Fang could also work to deal with things like Ferrothorn, and Skarmory. xD

  
  
  Stone Edge is a check against flying/levitating pokemon where you don't want to use outrage. Thunderus has got to go. It can check on Volcarona too. If you must run a fire move, Fire Blast actually does more damage than Fire Fang, even though it is a special attack.
  
  Garchomp Fire Fang takes 3 hits to kill Ferrothorn and Skarmory. More if they start doing some weird shit. Fire Blast kills in 2.
  
  

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1163794:

  Also going to probably add Ferrothorn to my team at some point. Atm I have Tyranitar, Garchomp, and Skarmory.

  
  
  Don't run two Steel type tanks in one team.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-10-28 10:51

  Quote from Cucurbita;1163820:

  Stone Edge is a check against flying/levitating pokemon where you don't want to use outrage. Thunderus has got to go. It can check on Volcarona too. If you must run a fire move, Fire Blast actually does more damage than Fire Fang, even though it is a special attack.
  
  Garchomp Fire Fang takes 3 hits to kill Ferrothorn and Skarmory. More if they start doing some weird shit. Fire Blast kills in 2.
  
  
  
  Don't run two Steel type tanks in one team.

  
  
  Well need something that won't get hurt by sandstorm so that limits me to Sand Veil ability pokemon (which oddly enough there is one electric normal type that does have that) or I need to use Rock/Ground/Steel types.
  
  Ferrothorn was going to be my check against any water types that come to try and destroy my Tyranitar or Garchomp. Of course I could chuck the skarmony and have Ferrothorn do the entry hazards instead.
  
  Oh good, looks like I can breed stealth rocks and spikes onto him. Good enough. *chucks Skarmony*
• Ketchup wrote on 2013-10-29 01:15
  What would be a perfect move set for a special wall Sylveon? She's at lvl 25 She has draining kiss and toxic, what can I use for the other two maybe light screen?
• SlurpTASTY wrote on 2013-10-29 01:53

  Quote from Ketchup;1163933:

  What would be a perfect move set for a special wall Sylveon? She's at lvl 25 She has draining kiss and toxic, what can I use for the other two maybe light screen?

  
  
  Draining kiss, toxic, sub, calm mind. dat wall and stall.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2013-10-29 02:03

  Quote from Ketchup;1163933:

  What would be a perfect move set for a special wall Sylveon? She's at lvl 25 She has draining kiss and toxic, what can I use for the other two maybe light screen?

  
  
  Probably Protect, substitute, and/or calm mind.
• Heine wrote on 2013-10-29 02:11

  Quote from Ketchup;1163933:

  What would be a perfect move set for a special wall Sylveon? She's at lvl 25 She has draining kiss and toxic, what can I use for the other two maybe light screen?

  
  
  Moonblast(@Lv.37), Light Screen, Toxic, Protect
  
  Seems logical w/ Leftovers as a held item. Still don't know much about Fairy's or Sylveon but I feel something like this would work.
• Ketchup wrote on 2013-10-29 02:15

  Quote from Heine;1163951:

  Moonblast(@Lv.37), Light Screen, Toxic, Protect
  
  Seems logical w/ Leftovers as a held item. Still don't know much about Fairy's or Sylveon but I feel something like this would work.

  
  
  I don't really see the use of Moonblast, draining kiss seems like a better choice since it heals you.
• Heine wrote on 2013-10-29 02:20

  Quote from Ketchup;1163954:

  I don't really see the use of Moonblast, draining kiss seems like a better choice since it heals you.

  
  
  30% Chance to Lower S.ATK which can reinforce it's S.DEF while still being able to deal damage.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-10-29 10:55

  Quote from Heine;1163957:

  30% Chance to Lower S.ATK which can reinforce it's S.DEF while still being able to deal damage.

  
  
  at the cost of some healing power. There's a lot of different ways you could really play a special wall Sylveon though. Sylveon worked extremely well when I did a test run with her.
• Ketchup wrote on 2013-10-30 03:46
  I got a question, I know that weather moves got nerfed but did weather abilities also receive a nerf?
  
  Making my drought team so I was wondering.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2013-10-30 03:49

  Quote from Ketchup;1164192:

  I got a question, I know that weather moves got nerfed but did weather abilities also receive a nerf?
  
  Making my drought team so I was wondering.

  
  
  Weather moves didn't get nerfed.
  
  Weather abilities got nerfed. They only last 5 turns now, instead of the infinite it used to be.
• Ketchup wrote on 2013-10-30 04:17

  Quote from Cucurbita;1164194:

  Weather moves didn't get nerfed.
  
  Weather abilities got nerfed. They only last 5 turns now, instead of the infinite it used to be.

  
  
  Oh I thought it was the weather moves that got nerfed alright, do you know if those rocks you find extend the time for ability weather or is it only for weather moves?
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-11-01 16:43
  Volcarona is so incredibly fragile against rock, never have i seen so many rock moves lobbed at me before.
• Ketchup wrote on 2013-11-01 17:22
  Now that I think of it Tyranitar got 7 weaknesses this gen, might be reluctant to add him to my sandstorm team. I might go with Hippowdon.