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ZeroPantz wrote on 2013-11-15 21:38
So wait, you can only give up to 50AP to the character you support after every hero RB? If the character with the hero talent levels over 50, no more AP will go to the supported character?
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Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-11-15 21:42
Quote from ZeroPantz;1170093:
So wait, you can only give up to 50AP to the character you support after every hero RB? If the character with the hero talent levels over 50, no more AP will go to the supported character?
Correct.
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Osu wrote on 2013-11-15 22:56
So.. is there a source that says this is only per rebirth, and not per week, as Nexon has(possibly falsely) stated?
EDIT: To elaborate.. if it was every week, and not every rebirth, you could say.. get up to 50 in the first week easily, right? Then in the second week you get maybe just up to 60 or 70, depending on how much you wanna try.. then third week? Meh. But then, after you rebirth again, you get that 50 again, and so on.
I was under the impression that this is how it worked.. so, is there a source that says it doesn't? Or is this place just so pay to win mentality that you're only thinking about using the system by getting 50 every single week? o3o
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Jiihae wrote on 2013-11-16 00:03
Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1169697:
I never saw the AP increase on my alt, so Im not even sure it works?
From what I've found from KR sites, the AP is given after Saturday noon at character age up.
Source
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M wrote on 2013-11-16 00:58
Quote from Jiihae;1170146:
From what I've found from KR sites, the AP is given after Saturday noon at character age up.
Source
Thanks for the clarification, I'm cautiously optimistic. How does Aubogs situation fit into this then?
Quote from Aubog007;1169931:
Logged on my alt, said (you have gained AP from support)
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Jiihae wrote on 2013-11-16 01:03
I'm guessing that means that he got a notice saying he gained AP from support. Not sure if that's the same as AP appearing in your character screen. I'm seeing people on Nexon forums saying they have the same problem as you, but since I haven't personally touched any of the cards yet, LF>more confirmations.
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M wrote on 2013-11-16 01:18
Quote from Jiihae;1170177:
I'm guessing that means that he got a notice saying he gained AP from support. Not sure if that's the same as AP appearing in your character screen. I'm seeing people on Nexon forums saying they have the same problem as you, but since I haven't personally touched any of the cards yet, LF>more confirmations.
Thanks :) I never touch those forums so I didnt think to check there. +rep for the assistance
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Shockify wrote on 2013-11-16 01:25
Well see, I was under the impression that you could rebirth a character with the ace card once and get the 50 ap earned weekly per-character. Nexon stated that it was based weekly, not per rebirth. It also says nothing about the support system going away when you free rebirth. Soooo.
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M wrote on 2013-11-16 01:30
Quote from Shockify;1170184:
Well see, I was under the impression that you could rebirth a character with the ace card once and get the 50 ap earned weekly per-character. Nexon stated that it was based weekly, not per rebirth. It also says nothing about the support system going away when you free rebirth. Soooo.
yeah Im curious to see what happens if you free rebirth and dont change talents
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Shockify wrote on 2013-11-16 01:38
I don't even think changing talents would matter. I think the only perk of using another ace card to rebirth is it goes up from 50 ap per week, to 100ap per week. And it just keeps going up every time you use another card. But idk, Nexon has trolled us before.
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Jiihae wrote on 2013-11-16 05:07
Quote from Jiihae;1170146:
From what I've found from KR sites, the AP is given after Saturday noon at character age up.
Source
Translation of source:
| Notes |
- When you create or rebirth a character with a Zero card, you can only receive the hero skills of the Zero (Ace) talent that you choose.
- Some talents (All races - Adventure, Elf - Lance, Giant - Archery) are not available with the Zero (Ace) character cards.
- You may choose a normal talent when using a Zero (Ace) character cards and the hero support will still be available, but will stop supporting at the next rebirth.
- A character receiving hero support can receive support from multiple characters, but can receive a maximum of 50 AP in one week, and will reset on Saturday 12PM (when character ages).
- Even if you aren't connected to the character receiving hero support at the reset time, you can check the AP already accumulated when you log in (when character ages). Also, if the AP support has been stopped, AP that has already been accumulated will be received.
- The support giving character with a hero talent will be notified of the supporting character's name and AP amount, while the support receiving character can view and receive the AP when they age.
- AP received from the hero support system will only be from leveling up (exploration levels and normal levels), and AP received from 2x AP events, AP coupons, and AP Potions will be excluded.
- One character within the same account can be selected to receive the hero's support, but cannot be changed once selected. Also, if you do not choose a character in the hero support selection window, you will not be able to give the hero's support during the current lifetime, so please choose carefully.
- Pets and partners cannot receive hero support.
- The [hero support selection window] will not appear if there are no characters capable of receiving the support within the account, but when a support-receivable character is created, the selection window will appear when you log into the hero-talented character.
- For free character cards (the one you get when you first create the account), if a hero talent is chosen, some skills for the hero will not be learned automaticallly. (Druid - Merlin hero talent: Only Instant Cast will be aquired)
- When a character is created and the Druid hero talent is chosen, aspiring mage/aspiring cleric/aspiring apothecary newbie title can be obtained, but cannot be used once the character exceeds a cumulative level of 300 like other novice titles.
- [KR's Zero character release date and price]
Another
source says if you don't rebirth using a zero card, you lose the support feature.
Another
source says if you level 50 times in the first week, don't rebirth and wait til the hero support resets the next week and gain another 50 levels, you will receive 100 ap.
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M wrote on 2013-11-17 01:26
Quote from Jiihae;1170146:
From what I've found from KR sites, the AP is given after Saturday noon at character age up.
Source
I just want to verify that this is in fact true.
[Image: http://puu.sh/5kybk/49877a52e2.jpg]
I can also confirm that without using another card, you can use the character to get another 50/50 AP for the supported character (I obviously cant confirm you'll RECEIVE the AP until next Saturday, but it says you have collected 1/50 or whatever amount you have leveled)
[SPOILER=" As shown here after having Not rebirthed using another Ace card or at all for that matter"]
[Image: http://puu.sh/5kCyh/870308ab78.jpg]
[/SPOILER]
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Juno wrote on 2013-11-17 05:18
So, the AP leech is permanent without continuous investment?
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M wrote on 2013-11-17 05:34
Quote from Juno;1170606:
So, the AP leech is permanent without continuous investment?
Possibly, however it could stop if you rebirth (unless you pay rebirth). If you free rebirth it might cancel it, or it might not let you choose the druid talent which might cancel it. If this is the case, then the AP leech is capped at level 200/30 on the alt (if you're hardcore).
Will have to verify that we receive the 2nd wave of AP next Saturday too.
Will have to wait another week after that to verify whether AP leeching stays after freebirthing.
If it does stay after free-rebirthing,... then it would be cheaper/equally efficient (week time-wise) to make 3 hero characters,... level them to like 81/21 every 3 weeks (splitting this into 51/1 the first week and then 81/21 the second week) (this would equate to getting 81/21 per weekly rebirth on your main) and have them free rebirth to give AP to your main character and never pay rebirth again.
^ Due to this, I have my doubts it'll stay somewhere down the line
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Juno wrote on 2013-11-17 06:32
I see, I jumped ahead a bit and thought you were saying that you had freebirthed, which makes no sense in retrospect.