The Ultimate Guide To Ranking Windmill!

• unatna wrote on 2010-08-21 22:01
  This is the first mabinogi guide I have ever written, so go easy on me. ^^ If you want to suggest something, I would be glad to add it to the guide. Also, tell me of any errors you may see.
  
  Table of Contents:
  I. Windmill Basics
  II. Why Rank Windmill?
  III. The Requirements!
  IV. How to get to TNN
  V. Oh No! My CP is too high!
  VI. Weapons and Upgrades
  VII. Tips!
  
  I. Windmill Basics
  
  What is windmill? Well, it is, simply the best melee skill in the game, in my opinion. Its good for any situation; multi-aggros can be dealt with easily, and orb rooms can be dealt with even easier. It is also the only skill that can kill certain enemies (such as zombies). It can also be used against slower enemies repeatedly without any consequences. It is quite easy to beat Rabbie Normal and Basic skeletons just by spamming windmill. It it also powerful, in damage. An N+Windmill is pretty much the strongest melee combo in the game, doing 450% damage at rank 1 (except from Rank 1 Smash, which does 500%). It can also be used for archers very well. How? Well, if you miss a shot, you're screwed... unless you have windmill. It loads fast, does a lot of damage, and is great almost anywhere! No mabinogi player should miss out on such a great skill!
  
  II. Why rank windmill first?
  
  There is a reason why windmill is almost always ranked first for most experienced players. The reason is that it gets extremely hard to rank it with a high CP. (If you dont know what CP is, check it out on a wiki) In fact, it could take years to rank if you wait to long. It also gives a lot of Strength and Will that really helps out later on. If you are still skeptical, see the requirements for Rank 1:
  
  Rank 2 requirements (for humans and elves)
  Kill a strong monster. (4800 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (4800 times)
  Kill a boss monster. (2000 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (48 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (40 times)
  
  Basically, you must kill 2000 boss-level monsters to get rank 1! If your CP is too high, this may mean 2000 Ceo Island golems! Luckily, the zombies at Tir Na Nog are easy and efficient to kill (even dropping enough money to buy stamina potions and make a profit too! If they drop to 'Awful' training windmill becomes pretty much impossible. This is why you must rank it first. (However, some say you can get Combat Mastery to D and Critical Hit to 9, but its your choice)
  
  III. The requirements!
  
  Rank F - 100% damage
  Attack any monster (20 times)
  Kill any monster (10 times)
  Counter using Windmill (2 times)
  Attack multiple monsters . (1 time)
  Kill multiple monsters (1 times)
  
  Pretty much doing anything can get you to rank E :P I recommend brown foxes.
  
  Rank E - 110% damage
  Attack any monster (30 times)
  Kill any monster (20 times)
  Attack a same level monster (20 times)
  Kill a same level monster (10 times)
  Kill a strong monster. (5 times)
  Counter using Windmill (2 times)
  Attack multiple same level monsters . (1 time)
  Kill multiple same level monsters (1 times)
  
  I would stick with same level kills, that and multiple hits/kills should be enough. Again, use foxes.
  
  Rank D - 120% damage
  Attack any monster (30 times)
  Kill any monster (20 times)
  Attack a same level monster (30 times)
  Kill a same level monster (30 times)
  Kill a strong monster. (5 times)
  Counter using Windmill (2 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (1 time)
  Kill multiple same level monsters (1 times)
  
  Once again, foxes are ideal for training easily.
  
  Rank C - 130% damage
  Attack a same level monster (128 times)
  Kill a same level monster (64 times)
  Kill a strong monster. (32 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (32 times)
  Counter using Windmill (3 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (2 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (2 times)
  
  Here, move on to gray wolves, who should be better than foxes at this point.
  
  Rank B - 140% damage
  Attack a same level monster (320 times)
  Kill a same level monster (160 times)
  Kill a strong monster. (100 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (50 times)
  Counter using Windmill (3 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (2 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (2 times)
  
  Here kill gray/black wolves for rank A
  
  Rank A - 150% damage
  Kill a same level monster (300 times)
  Kill a strong monster. (160 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (100 times)
  Counter using Windmill (3 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (2 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (2 times)
  
  For this rank, black wolves and multiple hits/kills should be good enough.
  
  Rank 9 - 160% damage, Loading Time decrease
  Kill a same level monster (600 times)
  Kill a strong monster. (400 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (200 times)
  Counter using Windmill (4 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (2 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (2 times)
  
  This rank is pretty hard, but can be done again against wolves outisde Tir Chonaill
  
  Rank 8 - 170% damage
  Kill a same level monster (1000 times)
  Kill a strong monster. (600 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (400 times)
  Kill a boss monster. (100 times)
  Counter using Windmill (4 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (2 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (2 times)
  
  I recommend for this rank you should move to Rabbie normal. At your current CP, skeletons and skeleton wolves should be 'Boss' to you.
  
  Rank 7 - 180% damage
  Kill a same level moster (2000 times)
  Kill a strong monster. (1000 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (1000 times)
  Kill a boss monster. (200 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (4 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (4 times)
  
  If your like me, Skeletons should still be 'Boss' to you. If not, go to floor two and kill red skeletons or maybe you can try Ciar Basic (if your good enough).
  
  Rank 6 - 190% damage
  Kill a strong monster. (2000 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (2000 times)
  Kill a boss monster. (300 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (10 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (10 times)
  
  Red Skeletons remain a great option here. You can also go to TNN (Tir Na Nog) if you want to.
  
  Rank 5 - 200% damage, Range increase
  Kill a strong monster. (3000 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (3000 times)
  Kill a boss monster. (450 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (15 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (15 times)
  
  At this point, I would definetely go to Tir Na Nog. 450 zombies and multiple hits/kills will get you to rank 4. The money you get from the zombies drops will be enough to spam Stamina 30s and still make a profit.
  
  Rank 4 - 210% damage
  Kill a strong monster. (3000 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (3000 times)
  Kill a boss monster. (450 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (40 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (30 times)
  
  This rank is considered by many to be the hardest rank. I dont think so, however. After killing zombies at TNN, move on to Math Normal and kill Kobolds there for Strong kills. You need 3000 Kobold kills, and for the 100 Awful kills left, you can go to Rabbie Normal.
  
  Rank 3 - 220% damage
  Kill a strong monster. (3000 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (3000 times)
  Kill a boss monster. (1500 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (40 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (30 times)
  
  An easier rank than 4. Kill the 1500 zombies (wow) and once again return to Math Normal for rank 2. If Kobolds arent strong, go to Longa Desert ruins.
  
  Rank 2 - 230% damage
  Kill a strong monster. (4800 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (4800 times)
  Kill a boss monster. (2000 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (48 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (40 times)
  
  In my opinion, the worst (and final) rank. Why? 2000 zombies. Anyway after the zombies, go to Longa Desert Ruins and finish off the final 1600 strong kills. You may even be able to remain at Kobolds (like me) after a rebirth. With multiple hits/kills, you can get rank 1!
  
  Rank 1 - 250% damage, Range increase
  Kill a strong monster. (4800 times)
  Kill an awful monster. (4800 times)
  Kill a boss monster. (2000 times)
  Attack multiple strong monsters . (48 times)
  Kill multiple strong monsters (40 times)
  
  Congrats! You made it to rank 1! Any requirements listed under Rank 1 are for the master title. However, I recommend you don't get it, it is hard and gives a terrible title (-10 Str). Here are the training places for Rank 3-1:
  
  Boss - Zombies, Ceo Island Golems, Ciar Adv,
  Awful - Rabbie Floors 2 and 3 (red, metal skeletons)
  Strong - Ciar Basic, Longa Desert Ruins (recommended), Their Method (Even more recommended!)
  
  IV. How to get to TNN!
  Getting to TNN is actually pretty easy. After beating/skipping G1, talk to Kristell (Dunbarton Church) with any non-succubus slayer title (bear and golem). She will give you a pass that, when dropped on Barri dungeon on a Saturday will bring you to a fairly easy dungeon. Upon defeating it, you may enter TNN. You may think it is hard to return (for repairs, money, etc) but its really not. Simply bring housing fliers and use those to return to TNN whenever you want! Just make sure not to lose the return flier no matter what.
  
  V. Oh no! My CP is too high!
  If your CP is too high, and zombies arent 'Boss' anymore, dont fret! There are ways to get around it! There are some enchants that lower CP! Keep in mind these can be extremely expensive (maybe over a million gold). Here they are:
  
  Difficult: -100 CP
  Damaging: -100 CP
  Handicapping: -100 CP
  Marble: -500 CP
  Racoon Cub: -1000 CP
  Inconvenient: -100 CP
  Uncomfortable: -100 CP
  Abysmal -500 CP
  Jackal -500 CP
  Arc Lich -250 CP
  
  VI. Weapons and Upgrades
  
  By upgrading the right weapons, you can do higher, steadier damage. There is one weapon that I can recommend more than any- the gladius. A good gladius can be many different things, a 195, 255, 225, 230, or a 260. Too poor to buy a fully upgraded gladius? Then use a min>max broadsword! This way, for almost no cost, you can always deal the same damage and keep durability. Dual 90 broadswords will do this and only cost 25k!
  
  VI. Tips
  
  1. First do boss kills, then multiple hits/kills!
  2. Use switch rooms for multiple hits/kills requirements!
  3. Hold Alt to see enemy CP level!
  4. Make a party set to 'Anyone's Finish' and windmill them at your leisure after killing them!
  5. Use your pet!
  6. Dual wield for maximum damage!
  7. Stay in deadly mode (and dont get hit) for money and time saving!
  8. Giants requirements are 2-3x easier. If you are lazy, be a giant!
  9. Titles/Enchants dont raise CP!
  12. When doing multiple hits/kills only one of the 4 needed has to be strong! In other words, you can WM 1 strong and
  3 weakest if you want to!
  10. Take your time! Do 300-600 kills a day and you'll be done in no time!
  11. Use upgraded dual gladiuses for maximum damage output!
  12. You can make a ton of money from zombies and kobolds and tara shadow missions!
  11. Most of all, have fun! Take breaks, and don't be hard on yourself!
  
  
  
  I hope you enjoyed the guide, and I hope it helps! Again, suggestions are welcome!
• mewball wrote on 2010-08-21 22:12
  Not a bad guide :) not as in detailed as others but helpful for beginners. Though not liking the lack of elf/giant WM training req's
• unatna wrote on 2010-08-21 22:13

  Quote from mewball;133068:

  Not a bad guide :) not as in detailed as others but helpful for beginners. Though not liking the lack of elf/giant WM training req's

  
  
  Well, elves have the same requirements. Also, giant requirements are the same, just much easier, and can use the same training places and techniques as humans and elves.
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-08-21 22:36
  elves have much more difficult requirements.
  
  but you should have included that for multiple strong kills that 1 strong mob + 3 other mobs work
• unatna wrote on 2010-08-21 22:59

  Quote from abc33kr;133089:

  elves have much more difficult requirements.
  
  but you should have included that for multiple strong kills that 1 strong mob + 3 other mobs work

  
  
  About elves, they have the same requirements, but get less points per completed requirement. Also, Ill add the 1 strong + 3 other thing
• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-08-22 00:44
  Hey, what about "Their Method"
  That's where I finished windmill up.
  The mission exp and the constant spawns of groups of 4 makes it pretty good for windmill training.
• Chihaya wrote on 2010-08-22 01:16
  Also include weapon choice: I used dual, upgraded gladiuses because even as for a new player, gladius offers high, steady damage. Although it's not the best, it's enough for my level 20 mule to defeat a level 300+ player
• Kept wrote on 2010-08-22 01:31
  Your opinions in the "Windmill Basics" section kinda bothers me. If it isn't a fact that Windmill is the best skill in the game and that simply spamming Windmill in Rabbie Basic is a piece of cake, then state that they are just your opinions. Many would beg to differ about what you say, and guides are meant mostly for informational and helpful purposes. Especially that one about the Zombies. Windmill is not the only skill that can be used to eliminate them. You could very easily do it with Rank 1 Smash and a decent set of weapons.
  
  It's not as thorough as I was hoping, but other than what I said above, it's okay.
• Vanof wrote on 2010-08-22 02:00
  Isn't 'Their Method'(Tara SM) more effective for training windmill now?
  
  Better exp/items and it still makes for good training, yes?
• Chihaya wrote on 2010-08-23 01:11

  Quote from Vanof;133218:

  Isn't 'Their Method'(Tara SM) more effective for training windmill now?
  
  Better exp/items and it still makes for good training, yes?

  
  
  When Hardmode Dungeons came out, they were very nice for fulfilling the "boss" or "awful" kills for someone with high CP ;)
  But i guess the continuous updates are making it easier and easier to train windmill
• pkMaster wrote on 2010-08-23 07:49
  Another thing you'll want to consider is getting a title that boosts your Max SP since using windmill at high ranks is a really stamina killer. The easiest title to get is the Sulfur Covered Explorer which boosts your stamina by +20 and all you have to do is just AFK in the sulfur puts near Raspa Volcano and wait until you're in deadly status.
  
  Also getting trans can really help with training windmill because it awards you with a huge stamina pool, allowing you to spam windmill on those TTN zombies without spending any gold on stamina pots.
• Phanterz wrote on 2010-08-25 20:49
  Updates Since the Older Days:
  -Their Method (and shadow cast city, maybe lingering darkness) are hax for multiple strong hits/kills.
  -HM Dungeons' monsters have high CP. HM Goblins (~1800 CP) is good for strong/awfuls. If Zombies are no longer boss, HM Pirate Skeletons have 2.9k-3.4k CP.
  -Intermediate SCC and Intermediate Their Method has ideal CP requirements for strong/awfuls.
• Raphiel wrote on 2010-09-11 11:06
  Wow o.o spent the last few days grinding windmill r4 on bears when I could have just did their method <_< shame I read this late
• User495 wrote on 2010-09-11 15:00

  Quote from pkMaster;134527:

  Another thing you'll want to consider is getting a title that boosts your Max SP since using windmill at high ranks is a really stamina killer. The easiest title to get is the Sulfur Covered Explorer which boosts your stamina by +20 and all you have to do is just AFK in the sulfur puts near Raspa Volcano and wait until you're in deadly status.
  
  Also getting trans can really help with training windmill because it awards you with a huge stamina pool, allowing you to spam windmill on those TTN zombies without spending any gold on stamina pots.

  
  
  it also allows you to kill them faster conserving time and possibly money o3o
  
  which also would have to add TNN Zombies are still best for kills because the ones in "Their Method" takes longer to kill
  
  also if this guide is meant for newbies and stuff it should be mentioned that those -CP enchant/equipment would be costly (cept maybe the -100 ones but alot of times 100 CP won't help unless you're just borderline)
• Chiri wrote on 2010-09-11 15:12
  Ryerth's Guide to Ranking Windmill will always be the ultimate one to me.