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Chaos' wrote on 2013-12-17 07:43
Is it worth/faster? using the brionac any more for life skills now that we got training seals?
Training seals seems like a must use for things like smithing, handicrafting, tailoring, enchanting, magic crafting, engineering, etc but is brionac still a viable opinions for these skills? [or other skills?]
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Syliara wrote on 2013-12-17 07:48
Quote from Chaos';1179144:
Is it worth/faster? using the brionac any more for life skills now that we got training seals?
Training seals seems like a must use for things like smithing, handicrafting, tailoring, enchanting, magic crafting, engineering, etc but is brionac still a viable opinions for these skills? [or other skills?]
If your lazy go with brionac, if u can grind out seals (then u should honestly be able to grind out the skill itself), then go for the seal training.
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Chaos' wrote on 2013-12-17 08:12
if you think about it both method isnt really lazy ...
using the brionac still requires you to grind until min requirements are completed
even at 10 seals a day 70 seals a week that still 15 pts every week which isnt as grind-ie as everyone make it out to be ...
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Syliara wrote on 2013-12-17 08:14
Quote from Chaos';1179168:
if you think about it both method isnt really lazy ...
using the brionac still requires you to grind until min requirements are completed
even at 10 seals a day 70 seals a week that still 15 pts every week which isnt as grind-ie as everyone make it out to be ...
I find the first 1/3 of a requirement simple enough. Seals are just grindy imo due to the annoying quests u have to do.
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Chaos' wrote on 2013-12-17 09:16
Quote from Pureblooded;1179171:
I find the first 1/3 of a requirement simple enough. Seals are just grindy imo due to the annoying quests u have to do.
skills like engineering where 1/3 of the requirement is to make 100s upon 100s of guns ...
and seals rnt too bad ...
[SPOILER="How i attempt it ... somewhat"]Nails -> Striped Marlin? -> Commerce -> Cook -> Handicrap -> 2 Food in Belvast ->Owen Chest? ->Hillwen Mines -> WhiteHerb? -> Shyllien Reservor ->Ghost Hunt -> SM daily? -> Report? -> Supplies? ->Saga? -> Rafting/Ballooning -> Gathering ->Dungeon[/SPOILER]
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Yuuki Asuna wrote on 2013-12-17 15:30
r5-r2 Magic Craft, Tailoring r4-r3, Engineering (haven't done this shit), Handi r4 and r3, Blacksmithing (idk which ranks I did this shit in 24 hours) are probably worth it.
Ultimately it depends on what you value more, that is, your playing time or your fiscal resources.
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abc33kr wrote on 2013-12-17 15:57
do both.
besides brionac training for the newer skills only cost .25ap.
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Blassreiter wrote on 2013-12-17 18:48
Brionac is great for Craft/Engineering because of the low cost but the problem is that you have to do at least 30% of a training requirement before you're able to even use Brionac training on it. As for me I can get the next level in two~three weeks with training seals depending on if I can slide WD/BD raid, Lord, and MA in my daily Adventurer Seal collection so by the time I ever get 30% of a training requirement for using Brionac, I would already have had enough seals to level up the skill anyway. Mind you, 30% of tedious life skills is extremely hard.
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EphraDaMan wrote on 2013-12-17 19:49
Quote from Chaos';1179189:
skills like engineering where 1/3 of the requirement is to make 100s upon 100s of guns ...
and seals rnt too bad ...
[SPOILER="How i attempt it ... somewhat"]Nails -> Striped Marlin? -> Commerce -> Cook -> Handicrap -> 2 Food in Belvast ->Owen Chest? ->Hillwen Mines -> WhiteHerb? -> Shyllien Reservor ->Ghost Hunt -> SM daily? -> Report? -> Supplies? ->Saga? -> Rafting/Ballooning -> Gathering ->Dungeon[/SPOILER]
..this makes me wonder how many people skip Alexina's seal quest. :V
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Mastervan wrote on 2013-12-17 22:29
Too much... I would use alt's Adventurer Seal for Banktrade.
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kaozking wrote on 2013-12-17 23:02
Doing both is better while training the skill. Just train the skill up til you can brio, then use brio and work on it as brio is on cd. You still progress to a certain extent and then when it comes sunday just bam get easy percentages in with seals.
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cheese758 wrote on 2013-12-18 02:24
It takes 490 seals for 1 rank. Unless the rank costs more than a full royal knight set (8-10m on Mari) you should avoid using seals. If you convert 8-10m gold into a time value, I honestly can't see any life skill expect smiting (with a crap reforge), engineering and tailoring being viable. In other words, the time it would take to rank all the other life skills except the 3 I just mentioned using royal knight armor funds to pay for mats, is much less. In fact, you could probably get 2-3 ranks with the money you can get for 490 seals. Opponent of seal training!
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Chaos' wrote on 2013-12-18 05:08
You have to consider the fact that buying materials with gold takes time too. Just because u decided to make a party to buy things like fine[st] leather/silk/fabric doesnt mean you'll get them instantly.
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cheese758 wrote on 2013-12-18 20:53
Quote from Chaos';1179471:
You have to consider the fact that buying materials with gold takes time too. Just because u decided to make a party to buy things like fine[st] leather/silk/fabric doesnt mean you'll get them instantly.
I doubt anyone stares at their screen waiting for people to mail them stuff. You can get around your party add closing by changing channels and changing back. I understand that some mats are hard to come by, so I still support using seals for smithing and brionac for engineering and magic craft. Then again, this is coming from someone who doesn't have prem and only 1 warp imp (slow seal collecting) and had x8 training for most of the hard life skills so I guess it's still subjective.
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Proxied wrote on 2013-12-18 21:12
Quote from cheese758;1179611:
I doubt anyone stares at their screen waiting for people to mail them stuff.
Ill be the first to admit I do this. A lot lol