Your thoughts on current Alchemy?

• Tropa wrote on 2014-01-25 15:51
  Title, what are your thoughts on alchemy and alchemists since Vate came out?
  
  I feel like they're more of a class now then they have ever been, I ran missions with the vate skills, and my god, I actually had fun with the new gadgets we were given.
  
  Even though alchemy still needs a few tweaks, such as changing how the masteries effect skills and giving a indirect buff to Heat Buster, I think it's a pretty solid set now.
  
  
  
  Sidenote: Abyss Cylinder's R-type has been fixed!
• Blassreiter wrote on 2014-01-25 16:19

  Quote from Tropa;1191496:

  Sidenote: Abyss Cylinder's R-type has been fixed!

  
  
  I guess I can call you...a trOPacat.
  
  But regarding the thread, I dont use alchemy but I have ran with alchemists and it's awesome
• Hatsunechan wrote on 2014-01-25 16:26
  I think it's really good now. I actually felt fairly weak in elites or anything higher even though I'm probably one of the stronger flame bursters on our server. Now after they added ele wave I have a lot more utility with frozen blast and shock, as well as having huge damage boosts with ele wave heat buster which is AMAZING. Hydra seems really situational but I think it can be OP in certain situations with that master title.
• Kyubey wrote on 2014-01-25 16:26
  Still not enough for me to spend AP on. Also B> perfect skill reset for shock.
  
  Edit: As a primary skillset that is. As a support skillset alch has it's good uses.
• Username wrote on 2014-01-25 16:36
  It feels solid now. Heatbuster just needs a more indirect way to cut into defences. Hitting 30k Heatbusters on a low level Dopple is not far from the truth. Since its 3x Hit Heatbuster. Though i didnt screenshot that damage. We just need a way to allow it to cut through defences. at Abyss and Elite Dungeons, Flameburst is more adaquet unless you crit with Heatbuster.
  
  /love heatbuster
• Hatsunechan wrote on 2014-01-25 16:39
  Alch is still so AP heavy though. You have to rank all those alchemy skills as well as maxing hp/mp/stam/ AND CRIT. Heat buster is so useless if it doesnt crit. Cylinders basically have 0 base crit too...
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-01-25 16:41
  Personally, I found it underwhelming. Note that I am least of all an alchemist, which is why I think the guard cylinder appealed to me. I'm not sure why I expected the guard cylinder to be a great hybrid weapon, but it really doesn't seem to be. Seeing as it has no elemental bonuses, a straight 10% deduction, and can't use any of the new skills, I'm really not finding much use for it. As a human, I can only realistically use it with either my ice savage blaze wand or my fire wand ego. So far I've just ranked Rain Casting for alchemy use, and I think I might give shock or sand blast a try. Other than that, I'm really at a loss for why I would wand + guard shield.
• Kyishi wrote on 2014-01-25 16:44
  garbage
• Sinned wrote on 2014-01-25 17:05
  I did a few tests with r1 Hydra.
  
  I believe that extra Clay almost barely increases attack interval:
  12 attack waves with a Cylinder
  13 waves with an Earthquake Cylinder
  
  Either I counted wrong or that is some interesting shit there.
• Yuuki Asuna wrote on 2014-01-25 17:06
  I enjoy the guard cylinder more than anything! It's nice to have synergistic weapons and I'm always welcome to having more of them in the game.
  
  

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  garbage

  
  
  

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• willcaster wrote on 2014-01-25 17:22
  Run around in GoP HM with just rank F water canon hiting 3-4k crits and 7-8k in falcon is silly!! xD i had so much fun and using awand and cylinder is epic fun!! shcok and suck their lives; its basically ur game. Maybe is not super fast or cant clean a room in 1 sec like my puppets but for sure is better than my archery
• Goldenchikle wrote on 2014-01-25 17:34
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  Serious answer: I genuinely like this update, I was excited for the last alchemy changes but this is making me really glad I stuck with alchemy. I don't have to risk the game freezing for 3 seconds when I want my golem to distract something, Frozen blast is reliable, and hydras give me some good extra AoE damage. Golem AIs need a bit of a tweak but overall I am satisfied.
• willcaster wrote on 2014-01-25 18:13
  Golem Ais is crapp LOl they are better punching bags than b4 xD
• frncsjhnhawaii wrote on 2014-01-25 18:22
  The guard cylinder is a nice addition to my arsenal as a total level 700 Close Combat/Fighter Human. Utility skills at rF like SB, LD, and WB hit harder than rF bolt magic for me, even with the 25% damage penalty. Having used shields strictly for Charge before the update, it's nice to have the off-hand slot used for more than one skill since dual wielding had to be sacrificed until I can buy a shieldless Charge reforged hat.
• mageisfun wrote on 2014-01-25 18:39
  Considering that my friend now does 10k flame burst crits. It seems pretty good.