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Tropa wrote on 2014-03-03 00:20
Basically a thread on how would you rate a skillset in categories(DPS, utility, crowd control, ect)
Basic Format
Single Target: 0/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 0/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Combat/Lances
Single Target: 0/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 0/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Archery
Single Target: 0/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 0/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Magic
Single Target: 0/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 0/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Alchemy
Single Target: 0/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 0/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Fighter
Single Target: 0/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 0/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Music
Single Target: 0/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 0/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Puppetry
Single Target: 0/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 0/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Gunslinger
Single Target: 0/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 0/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Single Target: Having skills that specialize in Single-Target damage.
Multi Target: Having skills that specialize in AoE damage.
Crowd Control: How well a class can manipulate aggro.
Utility/Support: Classes that have notable utility skills.
Tankyness: Overall bulkiness the class has at the end.
You don't have to rate all of them, preferably rate the ones you know the most about.
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Zekkii wrote on 2014-03-03 00:57
Combat/Lances
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 2.5/5
Utility/Support: 0/5
Tankyness: 4/5 Human 5/5 Giant
Archery
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Magic
Single Target: 3/5 - Firebolt is Strong But expensive
Multi Target: 4/5 - Strong AOEs but heavy set-ups for all of them
Crowd Control: 3/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 5/5
Alchemy
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 2/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Fighter
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 1/5
Music
Single Target: X/5
Multi Target: 1/5
Crowd Control: 5/5 - Lullaby
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: X/5
Puppetry
Single Target: 1/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Gunslinger
Single Target: 3.5/5
Multi Target: 4.5/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Disclaimer: Just my personal opinions.
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SlurpTASTY wrote on 2014-03-03 00:57
Elf archer
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 3.5/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: -50000000000000000000000000000000000000/5
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ironwoman wrote on 2014-03-03 02:19
Combat/Lances
Single Target: 4.5/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 5/5
Archery
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 4.5/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Magic
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 3/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 1/5
Alchemy
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 2/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Fighter
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 1/5
Music
Single Target: 0/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Puppetry
Single Target: 1/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Gunslinger
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Tankyness: 1/5
TL;DR Fighter needs something more.
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Perfectio wrote on 2014-03-03 02:34
Combat/Lances
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 4.5/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 1.5/5
Tankyness: 4.5/5
Archery
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 3.5/5
Crowd Control: 3.5/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Tankyness: 2/5
Magic
Single Target: 3.5/5
Multi Target: 3.5/5
Crowd Control: 2.5/5
Utility/Support: 3/5/5
Tankyness: 2.5/5 (MS has excellent scaling at high levels of MATK but you're using the same resource for attack and defense...)
Alchemy
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Fighter
Single Target: 4.5/5
Multi Target: 1/5
Crowd Control: 1/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 1/5
Music
Single Target: 1/5
Multi Target: 0.5/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 2/5
Puppetry
Single Target: 2/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 3/5 (if your puppet draws aggro)
Gunslinger
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 3.5/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 1/5
I think these measures don't really take into account ease of use though.
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Zunori wrote on 2014-03-03 03:30
Combat/Lances:
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 2/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Archery:
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 3/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 1/5
Magic:
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 3/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Alchemy:
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 4/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Fighter:
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 2/5
Crowd Control: 1/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Tankyness: 2/5
Music:
Single Target: 2/5
Multi Target: 0/5
Crowd Control: 4/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Puppetry:
Single Target: 2/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Gunslinger:
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 3/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 2/5
IMO Regular Combat and Lance Combat should be separate categories.
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Gaby5011 wrote on 2014-03-03 04:04
[SIZE="5"]This is based on my characters[/SIZE]
Combat/Lances
Single Target: 4/5 Human
Multi Target: 4/5 H
Crowd Control: 4/5 H
Utility/Support: 3.5/5 H
Tankyness: 4/5 H
Archery
Single Target: 5/5 Human 3/5 Elf
Multi Target: 4/5 H 3/5 E
Crowd Control: 4/5 H 2/5 E
Utility/Support: 4/5 H 2/5 E
Tankyness: 2.5/5
Magic
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 3.5/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 5/5
Alchemy
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 3.5/5
Utility/Support: 3.5/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Fighter
Single Target: 4.5/5
Multi Target: 1/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 3.5/5
Tankyness: 5/5 (MS)
Music
Single Target: 0.5/5
Multi Target: 0.5/5
Crowd Control: 0/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 0/5
Gunslinger
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 3.5/5
Crowd Control: 3/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Tankyness: 5/5 (MS)
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Sepia wrote on 2014-03-03 04:18
Quote from Zunori;1203570:
IMO Regular Combat and Lance Combat should be separate categories.
I agree.
Magic:
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Fighter:
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 1/5
Crowd Control: 1/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Tankyness: 2/5
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Homin wrote on 2014-03-03 04:20
Combat/Lances
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 2/5
Crowd Control: 3/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 4/5 - 5/5 with shield
Archery
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 3/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Tankyness: 2/5
Magic
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Tankyness: 1/5 - 3/5 if using shield... which I highly doubt someone will using that at the end of the game...
Alchemy
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 4/5
Utility/Support: 1/5 - Only from Golem, most of supportive alchemy cannot use in combat (like Metallurgy). If count out-of-combat ability. This will be 5/5.
Tankyness: 3/5 - From Guard Cylinder
Fighter
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 1/5 - From Drop Kick
Crowd Control: 1/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Music
Single Target: 2/5 - From Dischord
Multi Target: 1/5 - From Dischord
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 2/5
Puppetry
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 1/5 - If not for the puppet, the puppeteer him/herself is not really called 'Tanky'.
Gunslinger
Single Target: 3/5 - Most skill is multi-target.
Multi Target: 3/5 - Most of multi-target is really hard to use. Require low ping for most effective effect.
Crowd Control: 3/5 - Require low ping for most effective crowd control ability.
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 3/5
I only using my expectation on each class... I really hope this will help.
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Homin wrote on 2014-03-03 04:20
Ops... Double posted... sorry...
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Kaeporo wrote on 2014-03-03 06:27
Combat/Lances
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 2/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Archery
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Tankyness: 1/5
Magic
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Alchemy
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Fighter
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 1/5
Crowd Control: 1/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 1/5
Music
Single Target: 1/5
Multi Target: 1/5
Crowd Control: 4/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Puppetry
Single Target: 2/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 3/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Gunslinger
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 1/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 1/5
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wilson10000 wrote on 2014-03-03 16:37
Combat/Lances
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 2/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Archery
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 1/5
Magic
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Tankyness: 2/5
Alchemy
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Fighter
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 1/5
Crowd Control: 1/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 2/5
Music
Single Target: 1/5
Multi Target: 1/5
Crowd Control: 4/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Puppetry
Single Target: 2/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 4/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Gunslinger
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 3/5
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Limes wrote on 2014-03-03 18:47
Though I've had substantially more time spent on my elf, I'm going to take these ratings into account as a giant.
Combat/Lances
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target:4/5
Crowd Control: 1/5
Utility/Support: 3/5
Tankyness: 5/5
Archery
LOL WHAT ARCHERY
Magic
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Tankyness: 2/5
Alchemy
I have basically never alch'd.
Fighter
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 1/5
Crowd Control: 1/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Music
Single Target: 2/5
Multi Target: 2/5
Crowd Control: 4/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Puppetry
Not enough experience to rightfully rate it.
Gunslinger
Not enough experience to rightfully rate it.
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Nalgor wrote on 2014-03-04 00:18
Quote from Homin;1203587:
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Alchemy
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 3/5
Crowd Control: 4/5
Utility/Support: 1/5 - Only from Golem, most of supportive alchemy cannot use in combat (like Metallurgy). If count out-of-combat ability. This will be 5/5.
Tankyness: 3/5 - From Guard Cylinder
What about sandburst, windblast, frozen blast, life drain and barrier spikes? that is not utility?
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Hatsunechan wrote on 2014-03-04 02:03
Combat/Lances
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 4/5
Archery
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 2/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 1/5
Magic
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 4/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 1/5
Alchemy
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Fighter
Single Target: 5/5
Multi Target: 1/5
Crowd Control: 1/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Music
Single Target: 1/5
Multi Target: 1/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Puppetry
Single Target: 3/5
Multi Target: 5/5
Crowd Control: 5/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Tankyness: 3/5
Gunslinger
Single Target: 4/5
Multi Target: 4/5
Crowd Control: 1/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Tankyness: 3/5