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Perfectio wrote on 2014-03-18 21:37
it'd only be workable if you could collect reforging stats in real time, set it against a table of desired reforges, and calculate from there, otherwise it's impossible to get a sample that even pretends to be realistic.
The best we can do is estimate though, based on observation and anecdotal evidence and we know how many pitfalls THAT approach has.
I actually think kinsoo's numbers are close to the average for all his scenarios but that's just me. 130-150 reforges from r3 to r1 fire 6 sounds reasonable.
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Zekkii wrote on 2014-03-18 21:51
Metallurgy Sieve
120 Fines to r2
90 more reforges and no rankup or reforge of any note
Champion Knuckles pre r1
65 reforges until Fire 5
Bluetiful Knight Lance
20 reforges until rank 2
65 reforges more until rank 1, no elemental of note
40 reforges until Fire 5
Chocolate Lance (r1 when aqcuired)
16 reforges and no sign of elemental
First Hermit Staff
45 reforges until rank up
24 fines until MATK 8
33 fines until MATK 10, then destroyed via special upgrade
r1 Hermit Staff
35 reforges and no sign of Casting Speed or MATK, have received Hailstorm 18 though
Handicraft Kit r3
210 Fine reforges and never ranked up
Handicraft r3 (2)
10 Reforges to r2
5 Reforges to r1
42 reforges to Handicraft Exp 8, only Exp above 2 but passed Success 15~18 several times
Tengu Shoes (r1) Goal: SR 15+
170 Reforges and nothing above SR 10
Dowra SE r3
13 reforges to r2
107 reforges to r1
62 reforges to Dual Gun 19, only Dual Gun Max reforge received
Rosemaries
12 Reforges to r2
106 Reforges to r1, got IS Explosion 13 On rankup but no other reforges of real note
Other Gloves r3
Don't know how many to r2, but 67 from r3 to r1
Unsure about how many, but roughly 20 until Combat Mastery Damage 18 passing MS 10
Akule Shield r3
13 Reforges to r2
57 reforges and no rank up, got MATK several times but only 2 or 3 level
I've done more, but mostly preforged r1 items and I'd have no idea how many fines I would have used. I have no idea how many Creds I have used on each item either, but in general no more than 4 from 1 to 3 lines. The lesson here? Set effects and special items non-r1 items are expensive.
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Perfectio wrote on 2014-03-18 22:26
anyway, most of my items have been preforge and I've been outlandishly lucky in my reforging but I might as well post my numbers
R1 Hermit Staff = ~1 cred, 15 fines to get MATK 15
R1 Fire Wand, 2 creds, ~50-65 fines total, about 30 to rank up r3 to r2 and about 20 to r2-r1, 10 to get Firebolt Damage 24
R2 Hebona Circlet = ~40 fines total, 30 to rank up, passed a bolt mastery 9
R1 MS 19 Tengu Gloves (sold) = about 15 fines and 2 creds to get MS 19
R1 Level 20 Drop Kick Tengu Shoes (sold) = about 10 fines to get Drop Kick 20 (had bought them as 3 line Somersault Kick Boots)
R1 Transport Wear - didn't bother to credne, got 15 Transport Speed with one reforge.
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Tropa wrote on 2014-03-18 22:28
Abyss Cylinder: around 76 fines to r1
Cressida Wear: 5 crednes to r3 -> r1
Hurricane Cylinder: 5 fines to r2
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arochia246 wrote on 2014-03-18 22:54
Thames boots: 98 fine reforges. 60 to r2, passed Rain casting cooldown 9 level once, passed Shooting rush damage 9 level once, settled on Rain casting cooldown 10 level.
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Cho wrote on 2014-03-18 23:03
Knight Lance
92 Fine Reforge to Rank 1 (0 Creds used)
Around 110 more Fine Reforges and still no Elemental
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MrMs wrote on 2014-03-18 23:06
ahh used 43 if i can rem on my Ego ring bow on elf for it to just say rank 3 lol fail
used 2 crende for 3lines from 2line rank 3 knight lance
after 4 fines it went rank 2, after that it was about 38 fine reforge for Ice 4 and Fire 4
used 26 on 3l obl avenger acc for it to stay rank 3 3line
Thats all i reforged so far
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cheesehugs wrote on 2014-03-18 23:37
Thanks for all the data so far everyone!
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Adrianblade wrote on 2014-03-19 15:07
In order of reforging
Gloomy Sunday: 2 Fines to r2; 3 Creds to 3 line; 50 Fines to r1; 10 Fines to lvl 17 playing instrument
Highlander Claymore Ego: Already was r1; 72 Fines to Ice 5
Knight Lance: 18 Fines to r2; 2 Creds to 3 line; 26 Fines to r1; 78 Fines to Ice 6
These I only know because they were done recently. Can't remember how I did my valencia gaunts, trudy glasses/etc
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M wrote on 2014-03-19 15:26
lol I remember getting rank 1 with a NPC reforge on a lyre once, after reforging about 10 or 15 of them (was hoping for rank 2 and got rank 1). Took maybe 4 or 5 fine reforges to get instrument effect 14 which I kept as a luls instrument.
I don't remember how many fines/credne's it took but I think it was about 15 on rank 1 to get ice 5 effective range 17 on my Bhafel Hunter.
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Aliyah wrote on 2014-03-19 15:39
Ego Ring Bow - 5 Creds to get to 3 lines from 2, and 50 fine reforges (20 to go from r3 to r1). Still no elemental
Knight Lance- already r1. 30 reforges, no elemental
Hebona Gloves- Started 3 lines, one fine for r1, 30 reforges no mana shield reforge
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Jake wrote on 2014-03-19 16:03
Demonic Gloomy Sunday
*note I used a good 70+ reforges before, but this was before I saw this thread
How many Fine Reforges did you use?
45 for accuracy, 115+ speculation)
Of those, how many times did equipment go from Rank 3 -> Rank 2?
20 or so, can't give an accurate guess -- was before I started keeping track
Of those, how many times did equipment go from Rank 2 -> Rank 1?
went to rank 1 from 2 after 16 (for accuracy)
Of those, how many times did equipment go from Rank 3 -> Rank 1?
never
Of those, how many times did equipment at Rank 1 get a Rank-Up Cut-scene?
once
Of those, how many times did equipment not rank up at Rank 3?
19 or so
Of those, how many times did equipment not rank up at Rank 2?
100+, 19 for accuracy.
Of those, how many times did equipment not have a Cut-scene at Rank 1?
twice? I thought cutscene before rank 1 = 100% rank up chance
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SlurpTASTY wrote on 2014-03-19 16:58
Bhafel hunter - 2 crednes for 3 line, 1 fine to r2, 5 fines to double ele 4
Didn't keep track of anything else.
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trilok wrote on 2014-03-21 13:14
Champion Knuckles. R3->R1 = 23 Fine, 3 Credne. On the 24th fine i got Fire 5. I used fines again and it took 120 extra to get an elemental again (ice 4).
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Tropa wrote on 2014-03-21 14:20
Hurricane Cylinder
3 -> 2
6 Fines
3 Credne's
2 -> 1
6 Fines
Rain Casting Cloud Duration 20
13 Fines