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Xeno wrote on 2014-03-21 15:36
Reading this thread, I feel that I have made a large mistake in the way I reforge gear from scratch. I normally do:
1. NPC reforge on item to make it r3
2. Spam Crednes til 3 lines
3. Spam Fines until r2
4. Spam Fines until r1
After reading I think it makes more sense to:
1. NPC reforge on item to make it r3
2. Spam Fines until r2
3. Spam Crednes til 3 lines
4. Spam Fines until r1
This way, you have more chances at r2 to get to the difficult r1 by utilizing your Credne attempts there instead of wasting those chances at the start when the item is still just r3. It usually only takes a few Crednes to get 3 lines, but that is still a few tries I hadn't accounted for that could easily make the difference for r2->r1 if you get lucky.
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Yuuki Asuna wrote on 2014-03-21 15:44
Quote from Xeno;1208630:
Reading this thread, I feel that I have made a large mistake in the way I reforge gear from scratch. I normally do:
1. NPC reforge on item to make it r3
2. Spam Crednes til 3 lines
3. Spam Fines until r2
4. Spam Fines until r1
After reading I think it makes more sense to:
1. NPC reforge on item to make it r3
2. Spam Fines until r2
3. Spam Crednes til 3 lines
4. Spam Fines until r1
This way, you have more chances at r2 to get to the difficult r1 by utilizing your Credne attempts there instead of wasting those chances at the start when the item is still just r3. It usually only takes a few Crednes to get 3 lines, but that is still a few tries I hadn't accounted for that could easily make the difference for r2->r1 if you get lucky.
Mm, I feel this way too actually. I always thought that 3 lines would give you "three rankable chances" versus "one" but posted results so far suggest otherwise.
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M wrote on 2014-03-21 15:48
What baffles me is how people get like level 6 elements or magnum shot level 20 and such on 1 line items quite frequently. I would write this off as sheer luck, and maybe it is, but I have seen a few items like this floating around (generally rank 1 items with 1-2 lines and an awesome reforge)
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Rydian wrote on 2014-03-21 15:55
Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1208633:
What baffles me is how people get like level 6 elements or magnum shot level 20 and such on 1 line items quite frequently. I would write this off as sheer luck, and maybe it is, but I have seen a few items like this floating around (generally rank 1 items with 1-2 lines and an awesome reforge)
Well, there definitely has been a METRIC BUTTFLOODâ„¢ of R2 and R1 template items from gachas this past year (Nexon can toss "Wings" into the name/description and leave the gacha up for a month, make $$$). Maybe R2 and R1 have something different other than just increased level caps?
What the difference is (weighting higher, higher min) I couldn't say, I haven't bothered to look at enough samples.
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Kenero wrote on 2014-03-21 22:07
There was a wide test conducted on KR Test.
In KR Test, Fine and Credne are sold at NPC shop for 500 gold each, allowing for massive test.
After going through almost 5k of reforges, the conclusion was made:
Rank 3 - > Rank 2 - > 10~15% Chance
Rank 2 - > Rank 1 - > 1~5% Chance
Rank 1 - > Rank 1 - > 10~15% Chance
Although you can "get" the rank up animation for rank 1 - > rank 1, it doesn't actually go any higher. Conclusion states that most likely Rank 3 - > Rank 2 probability is the default is the reason you get a rank up at rank 1 - > rank 1.
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Perfectio wrote on 2014-03-21 22:15
10-15% chance feels WAY too high for 3-2, but I've only reforged 2 items this way.
did they test elementals or "sought after reforges"?
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Kenero wrote on 2014-03-22 03:10
Quote from Perfectio;1208717:
10-15% chance feels WAY too high for 3-2, but I've only reforged 2 items this way.
did they test elementals or "sought after reforges"?
Elementals (just appearing) appear more in rank 2 while rank 1 they dropped in abysmal. Others too but I'll try and find it again.
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Twin wrote on 2014-04-12 07:37
1 > 3 lines , 1 or 2 creds for meh
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WOWOWOWAOW wrote on 2014-04-13 16:24
Why do they still put a gold value on stuff in KR Test? I feel that it would jus impede a lot of testing :/...