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Nanaho wrote on 2014-03-20 15:26
I see the Bhafel Hunter on the Mabi wiki, and I kind of want one. Anyone know what's up with it? I haven't seen it around at all? Is it not that good of a bow? I've been gone a while, and now that I'm back, I don't know what bow to go after as an archer. Any suggestions? Or should I give up on Archery and go to Guns? Because, to be honest, guns look kinda cool, and my int and dex are pretty much both over 400 due to healing and arhcery.
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M wrote on 2014-03-20 15:35
Guns require Str and Int. The problem with guns is that it requires a lot of both to get some good damage. On the bright side if you have high stats, guns dont require a lot of reforging (outside of reforging the guns themselves if you're into that) and simple max damage enchants.
The bhafel hunter and bhafel huntress are the best in the game, but you likely won't find many on the market or find them in general because they are very difficult to make. For example on Ruairi there are less than 10 bows and 2 arrows to the best of my knowledge. Archery can be very OP if you stick with it, but the problem with archery is that it requires a lot of reforges simply to make the game-play of it bearable (such as crash shot reforges mainly, effective range doesn't hurt either).
In all honesty if you're a relatively low character with no intention of weekly rebirthing or going hard at enchants/gear/reforges I'd suggest melee or even puppetry for multi-aggro control. If you plan to dive deep into mabinogi, I'd say range will lead you to the best DPS but guns are likely going to be more enjoyable and more easily cappable.
This is just my 2 cents coming from that I have both really good guns and a bhafel set, I love my archery but guns can be really fun.
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Tropa wrote on 2014-03-20 15:36
Bhafel Hunters + Huntress is the best bow in the game, the bow itself has 2 Piercing levels and the huntress adds +15% damage.
Reason your not really seeing them around is cause of the material's rarity.
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Nanaho wrote on 2014-03-20 15:39
I'm already at Master Archer, so I might mess around with guns as I gather the stuff for the Bhafel. I do plan to start playing hard however. I might do Puppets/Guns. Would that be a good combo? Or would Guns/Fighter be better? I have high Will. Everything is high except for strength, which is stagnating around 200.
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Tropa wrote on 2014-03-20 15:44
Either of those combo are fine, Puppetry+Gunner has the best mod control, but Fighter+Gunslinger is one of the best combos for 1v1 situations.
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Nanaho wrote on 2014-03-20 15:56
Awesome, thanks for the info
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Dartan wrote on 2014-03-20 16:30
Gunslinger is a "Support" Talent imo. You would be doing more Damage with Archery.
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Tropa wrote on 2014-03-20 16:34
Quote from Dartan;1208282:
Gunslinger is a "Support" Talent imo. You would be doing more Damage with Archery.
I really can't see it as a primary talent either, much like fighter.
Mainly due to it's skills, Shooting rush tends to screw you over with aggro(Granted you don't crit) & Bullet storm's usefulness is limited. the other skills just need a few tweaks here and there.
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SlurpTASTY wrote on 2014-03-20 16:37
I wouldn't recommend puppet+gunner for someone whose total is 1.4k (according to your nation thing) considering you'd need at least 1k str+dex and at least 1k str+int and if you haven't focused on a main skillset yet to the point where you excel at it you'll most likely be lackluster at both puppet and gunner. I'd say focus on getting your str over 400 and int over 1k+ if you want to do guns.
Also get ready to spend something like 80m+ for bhafel hunter+huntress, it's requires alot of dedication.
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Syliara wrote on 2014-03-20 16:38
Quote from Tropa;1208284:
I really can't see it as a primary talent either, much like fighter.
Mainly due to it's skills, Shooting rush tends to screw you over with aggro(Granted you don't crit) & Bullet storm's usefulness is limited. the other skills just need a few tweaks here and there.
I think so as well. But u can set up Sr really fast so its a quick support.
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Blassreiter wrote on 2014-03-20 16:53
Quote from Dartan;1208282:
Gunslinger is a "Support" Talent imo. You would be doing more Damage with Archery.
Quote from Tropa;1208284:
I really can't see it as a primary talent either, much like fighter.
Mainly due to it's skills, Shooting rush tends to screw you over with aggro(Granted you don't crit) & Bullet storm's usefulness is limited. the other skills just need a few tweaks here and there.
Gunslinger is my primary talent, and I'm a Giant. Am I doing something wrong?
P.S. I don't spam reforges
@OP, take note that Guns work very differently compared to bows. A while ago lots of people claimed that guns could replace bows.
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Yuuki Asuna wrote on 2014-03-20 17:05
Do puppets for now then work on guns!
Quote from SlurpTASTY;1208285:
Also get ready to spend something like 80m+ for bhafel hunter+huntress, it's requires alot of dedication.
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Nanaho wrote on 2014-03-20 17:18
Quote from Tropa;1208284:
I really can't see it as a primary talent either, much like fighter.
Mainly due to it's skills, Shooting rush tends to screw you over with aggro(Granted you don't crit) & Bullet storm's usefulness is limited. the other skills just need a few tweaks here and there.
I always Crit ._. 9 outta 10 times at least
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Syliara wrote on 2014-03-20 17:32
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I always Crit ._. 9 outta 10 times at least
Either u are extremely lucky and shouldn't rely on that luck or ur fighting things with basically 0 prot. That aside tho, I find guns like puppetry for those that don't reforge much, if u do reforge alot I would choose archery.
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NulltheNoFro wrote on 2014-03-20 17:46
Obviously guns is not a main DPS skill set nor is it support. Its very meh and ment for the most Casual of players. Now Lance....theres a skill set we can all get behind amirightoramiright?
PS no skill set is complete without THE best reforges and step6 all the way....lets not be so Casual