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UnNormal wrote on 2010-08-26 09:41
This boss timer chart would've never been posted if people from the 'big guilds' didn't get into a fight with each other. I've seen times where those 'big guilds' won't even finish the boss, just so other people cannot get the drops. They have the timer (and a lot more time than casual players), so they could always just wait for the other one.
It won't ever be fair for both sides, one with the monopoly over field bosses, and the other lagging/screwing up the kills.
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pkMaster wrote on 2010-08-26 09:49
Quote from UnNormal;137543:
This boss timer chart would've never been posted if people from the 'big guilds' didn't get into a fight with each other. I've seen times where those 'big guilds' won't even finish the boss, just so other people cannot get the drops. They have the timer (and a lot more time than casual players), so they could always just wait for the other one.
It won't ever be fair for both sides, one with the monopoly over field bosses, and the other lagging/screwing up the kills.
This is one of many reasons why I don't actively hunt field bosses anymore. (Is and always will guild-less)
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-26 10:33
Quote from abc33kr;137114:
*SCREAMS AT YOU FOR KNOWING NOTHING!!!
u dun kno no islam nor mabimessage.
owo
nvm owo;
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hengsheng120 wrote on 2010-08-26 11:11
so the author of kukutimer wanted to screw people over?
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pkMaster wrote on 2010-08-26 11:22
Quote from hengsheng120;137560:
so the author of kukutimer wanted to screw people over?
Quote from hylianblade;136744:
Crossposting this originally from our Avallonis guild forum, posted by ihasaspleen on Nexon forum, and I'm planning to also post on other fansites I can think of that people go to. The reason for posting this is mainly as a big "screw you" to Dreams guild in Tarlach for trying to monopolize the server's economy, however the information is equally valid for all servers, so you folks from Mari/Ruairi/Alexina can feel free to use this to your liking.
Does that answer your question?
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Fracture wrote on 2010-08-26 12:19
Quote from Justified;137532:
On the contrary, we NEED the bosses to go down that fast. Even when we collectively kill the bosses in 5-10 minutes, there's still many times that Lion or Prarie Dragon gets away.
As far as having a public timer, if you really wanted to do field bosses you could have figured it out on your own. It's not like the guilds who had the charts before now just had somebody hand it to them, we had to do the figuring out for ourselves.
I could have, most likely, yes-- if either my guild or people on my friends list were willing to help. Trust me, I tried a few times, but I was usually ignored so completely that I could only mark any spawns that happened within a limited period at one location of one channel. It's not something you can do totally on your own.
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hengsheng120 wrote on 2010-08-26 12:41
Quote from pkMaster;137562:
Does that answer your question?
no, idc about that, i'm actually addressing the question as a general topic for everyone; whether boss timers should be public; does everyone who posting the times have a malicious intent...etc
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-26 12:46
Quote from hengsheng120;137576:
no, idc about that, i'm actually addressing the question as a general topic for everyone; whether boss timers should be public; does everyone have a malicious intent on posting the times...
If someone could do anything by keeping it to themselves, they would I guess. If they can't I guess they think they might as well do something with the times o_o
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Justified wrote on 2010-08-26 13:57
Quote from Fracture;137574:
I could have, most likely, yes-- if either my guild or people on my friends list were willing to help. Trust me, I tried a few times, but I was usually ignored so completely that I could only mark any spawns that happened within a limited period at one location of one channel. It's not something you can do totally on your own.
Piecing in bits of info together goes a long way. Even if you could only manage to watch that channel alone, you could make the table for that channel. Once that's done, move on to the next channel. There's the Nearby Rumors conversation which can alleviate some camping, along with hunting the command scrolls.
It's hard, but certainly not impossible.
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-26 13:59
Quote from Justified;137584:
Piecing in bits of info together goes a long way. Even if you could only manage to watch that channel alone, you could make the table for that channel. Once that's done, move on to the next channel. There's the Nearby Rumors conversation which can alleviate some camping, along with hunting the command scrolls.
It's hard, but certainly not impossible.
Command scrolls aren't that hard to come across if you grind on Iria field monsters. I remember getting around 1~3 per hour when I used to grind BTMs, so if you have a bunch of people grind all over Iria, you can map out the spawn times.
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Beepuke wrote on 2010-08-26 17:17
I like how you guys are seriously debating about whether or not it's good for the public to know the spawn times. It was going to happen sooner or later, I know there were people in Ruairi who planned to release the information on a public website that would get updated every time a boss was killed, sort of like kukutimer. It was put on hold and scrapped because he got too busy with work. Anyway, if you're so worried about outsiders messing up boss AI, educate the general public on how to fight these things, instead of hoarding the information. Most of knowing how to fight is just knowing when to (and when not to) windmill anyway. And if you're worried about stole exp, get better at bossing. Oh and buy like 5 hamsters. 8)
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TheTempest wrote on 2010-08-26 19:48
Quote from Beepuke;137668:
I like how you guys are seriously debating about whether or not it's good for the public to know the spawn times. It was going to happen sooner or later, I know there were people in Ruairi who planned to release the information on a public website that would get updated every time a boss was killed, sort of like kukutimer. It was put on hold and scrapped because he got too busy with work. Anyway, if you're so worried about outsiders messing up boss AI, educate the general public on how to fight these things, instead of hoarding the information. Most of knowing how to fight is just knowing when to (and when not to) windmill anyway. And if you're worried about stole exp, get better at bossing. Oh and buy like 5 hamsters. 8)
This. :thumb: