[Mabinogi-JP] Regeneration Update / Ninjas

• RegisAreus wrote on 2014-06-25 06:38
  Yea I just read that from nightmare xD
  
  edit:TBH I didn't notice the "from the shadow" guess I was blinded by the anime xD
• Kapra wrote on 2014-06-25 06:48

  Quote from RegisAreus;1227752:

  So is it final on ninja being str/will? or is it going to change? if stay, i'll suck up my whining bout ranking life skills and start capping will/str... e .e just for this

  
  There's as much evidence that they'll change ninja's stats as they'll change magic to something other than int. Not saying its impossible, but there is no evidence supporting one way or the either.
  

  Quote from Ryufujibayashi;1227883:

  I'm going to guess that since they put ninja talent stuff in our pack files today with the other anime summer stuff. that Ninja will be coming during the From the Shadows phase of Anime Summer, I'm guessing 4-6 is going to be ninja related stuff in gachas and events related to ninja. that's just how I feel anyway.

  
  Just want to add on to this, they didn't put the entire ninja patch in NA's anime patch. They only put a tiny amount.
  
  All of the regeneration update, except for the Ninja skills and quests, are no in NA. So we might not cover them in the new thread anymore. (NA also has faces that JP had in pack files but not ingame, such as freckles, scars, blush, and facial hair. Also, Elves in JP still do not have black hair, as far as I know only KR and NA do.)
• Zeo wrote on 2014-06-25 12:19
  Is it confirmed that giants get lower damage multiplier from Ninja skills and humans/elves get higher damage multiplier from Ninja skills?
  
  I've heard of that yesterday but I wanted to ask to make sure.
• Ryufujibayashi wrote on 2014-06-25 14:16

  Quote from Zeo;1228056:

  Is it confirmed that giants get lower damage multiplier from Ninja skills and humans/elves get higher damage multiplier from Ninja skills?
  
  I've heard of that yesterday but I wanted to ask to make sure.

  
  
  I heard the same thing. I'm not sure if it's confirmed. But it would explain why Joey was hitting significantly higher than his min-max dmg on his human in his ninja skills video. O3o... but I don't know, I haven't even seen a giant play a ninja though I know it's confirmed they can use ninja skills.
• epicmiro wrote on 2014-06-25 14:54
  and is the max dmg formula known?
• JoeyDee9 wrote on 2014-06-25 18:41
  Formula for shurikens is (str+will)/4 making it have the highest stat contribution out of all the weapon classes in game.
  
  Personally I feels that "Into the Darkness" refers to the treasure hunter investigating the new ruins features and saga II. At least that my opinion.
• RegisAreus wrote on 2014-06-25 18:42

  Quote from JoeyDee9;1228129:

  Formula for shurikens is (str+will)/4 making it have the highest stat contribution out of all the weapon classes in game.
  
  Personally I feels that "Into the Darkness" refers to the treasure hunter investigating the new ruins features and saga II. At least that my opinion.

  
  I would cry QQ all them crushed hope for ninja.
• Zeo wrote on 2014-06-25 18:47

  Quote from Ryufujibayashi;1228075:

  I heard the same thing. I'm not sure if it's confirmed. But it would explain why Joey was hitting significantly higher than his min-max dmg on his human in his ninja skills video. O3o... but I don't know, I haven't even seen a giant play a ninja though I know it's confirmed they can use ninja skills.

  
  
  Still waiting for confirmation on that, haha. I wouldn't mind about Ninja skills being based off Str/Will if they gave elves the highest skill damage multiplier, plus slightly more Str and Will from ranking up skills.
• Casura wrote on 2014-06-25 18:59

  Quote from Zeo;1228132:

  Still waiting for confirmation on that, haha. I wouldn't mind about Ninja skills being based off Str/Will if they gave elves the highest skill damage multiplier, plus slightly more Str and Will from ranking up skills.

  You can dream
• Zeo wrote on 2014-06-25 19:12

  Quote from Casura;1228135:

  You can dream

  
  
  Eh, what was the point of that post? I heard that giants get lower damage multiplier from someone hence the reason why I asked in here to see if it's true or not. I also was curious about the multiplier for humans and elves.
• Ryufujibayashi wrote on 2014-06-25 20:12

  Quote from Zeo;1228136:

  Eh, what was the point of that post? I heard that giants get lower damage multiplier from someone hence the reason why I asked in here to see if it's true or not. I also was curious about the multiplier for humans and elves.

  
  
  yeah... Something in my gut tells if the multiplier rumors are true it will make it so that giants have most min-max dmg, but low multiplier... humans get stuck in the middle of the min-max dmg and multiplier, while elves get highest multiplier while least min-max dmg. I think that if that's how it goes it would bring humans above giants because the multiplier, and elves above giants because the multiplier, but I think it won't be enough to bring elves above humans because the min-max. I only speculate this because about last week I saw in the Japanese forums some people saying stuff about humans benefiting most and what have you. I dun really mind either way... as long as my Hatsune Miku elf can be a good ninja >:O ... at least better than giants O3o. But again this is 100% speculation and as far as I currently know, giants are best at ninja.
  
  However I believe the stat increase of str/will is = for everyone
• Hyoheki wrote on 2014-06-25 21:48

  Quote from nana;1226610:

  [SPOILER=quote]was gonna create a new thread, but since everyone kinda kept using this...ill just post everything i got in here( tho alot of which are already introduced by some member in here)
  
  1)Ninja Talent. Uses STR+WILL.
  While shuriken is the only equipment, it will also equip kunai, so yea, they comes in one ..lul
  When you equip its only right hand slot will be used like Gun or handle.
  However, unlike Gun that can use 2h-es, Shuriken is considered as 1H-weapon. And following is how it looks when you equip Shuriken.
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/SdeDqUc.jpg]

  
  
  2)Skills
  [SPOILER="2)Skills"]
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/iRTogSp.png]

  
  [SPOILER="Shuriken Mastery"]Required AP : 149ap
  Status Bonus : 34HP 34STR 9WILL
  Max Damage +20 Min Damage +10 when using Shuriken
  Attack Range 13m
  
  personal note: same usual mastery skill[/SPOILER]
  
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/OYyQ1xD.png]

  
  [SPOILER="Rasen-Zan"]Required AP : 157AP
  Status Bonus: 7Life 7STR 19WILL
  Damage 430%
  Can be charged up to 2 level.
  Attack Range 13m
  CT 6sec
  personal note: [S]Rasengan Shuriken[/S] seems quite powerful from how friend of mine used it
  wm>Rasen-Zan is one nice skill combo you can do to charge easily[/SPOILER]
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/sEAp2Cv.png]

  
  [SPOILER="Kage Shibari"]
  Required AP : 224 AP
  Status Bonus: 15Life 15STR 9WILL
  Duration 5.5sec
  Can bind up to 6targets
  Attack Range 10m
  CT 21sec
  personal note: its nice being able to attack from distance while a mob is stuck at place, nothing notable at lower rank.[/SPOILER]
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/EZYOZ0I.png]

  
  [SPOILER="Daichi-Jin"]Required AP : 188AP
  Status Bonus: 7WILL
  Damage 200%
  Can set up 5 mines
  Duration 25sec
  Attack Range 10m
  CT 20 sec.[/SPOILER]
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/rZa6yvW.png]

  
  [SPOILER="Yamiuchi-Sen-"]Required AP : 247AP
  Status Bonus: 24Life 24STR
  Damage 120%
  Movement Speed +100%
  CT 50sec
  
  personal note : its really nice hide skill, can reset aggro and can be used even when yorue in combat mode(which normal hide cant do at this point) [S] get out emergency escape skill!
  when you cancel the skill in a hide mode, you won't get any CT...lol
  [/S][/SPOILER]
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/w8cPvwm.png]

  
  [SPOILER="Oboro Enmaku"]Required AP : 188AP
  Status Bonus: 7WILL
  Attack Range 10m
  Debuff 20defense
  CT 23sec
  
  
  personal note:not too sure the uses of this skill yet...yet...[/SPOILER]
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/5WwpcWo.png]

  
  [SPOILER="Midare Kunai"]Required AP : 200AP
  Status Bonus: 7Life 7STR 19WILL
  Damage 400%
  Attack Range 10m
  CT 8sec
  
  personal note: very useful. Works just like crash shot, yet can be used immediately. Also you won't get aggro whats so ever with this skill.[/SPOILER]
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/GXNMRYb.png]

  [SPOILER="Ougi -Sakura Shigure-"]
  Required AP : 310AP
  Status Bonus: 51Life 51STR 19WILL
  Damage 250%
  Can be charged up to 15
  CT 20min
  
  
  personal note:it seems like you will attack number of times you charged. (eg. you charge 5charge and execute, you will do 100% x5 at rN) Well this could be wrong at higher rank! maybe~ who knows![/SPOILER]
  [/SPOILER]
  
  Weapons[SPOILER="weapons"]
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/VFe9RF8.jpg]

  
  
  [SPOILER="Helix Shuriken (Bottom Left)"]Can be bought from Nery at Dunbarton
  
  Fast Ranged Weapon
  Damage: 9~15
  Injury Rate: 10~60%
  Critical: 7
  Balance: 20
  Durability: 10[/SPOILER]
  
  Anzu's Shuriken
  [SPOILER="Anzu'z Shuriken (Top Left)"]Black smith rank6 manual.
  Can be bought from Fletta.
  Required Mat(per try): 6Iron Ingot 4Silver Ingot and 3Mythril Ingot
  24% each time you hit.
  Finish Mat:Finest Leather Tough String
  
  Fast Ranged Weapon
  Damage: 2~28
  Injury Rate: 5~100%
  Critical 12
  Balance 20
  Durability 10
  [/SPOILER]
  
  
  [SPOILER="Hagi's Shuriken (Top Right)"]Blacksmith rank6 manual
  Can be bought from Fletta
  
  Required Mat(per try): 6Irong Ingot 4Silver Ingot 2Gold Ingot
  24% each hit.
  Finish Mat: 2Fine Leather Braid
  
  Very Fast Ranged Weapon
  Damage 5~12
  Injury Rate 30~80%
  Critical 22
  Balance 50
  Durability 10[/SPOILER]
  
  
  [SPOILER="Akatsuki's Shuriken (Bottom Right)"]Receive after collecting 10 pieces of shuriken from pre-Ninja event.
  
  Normal Speed Ranged Weapon
  Damage 30~85
  Injury Rate 10~60%
  Critical 45%
  Balance 50
  Durability 12
  
  
  [S]no naruto plz.[/S]
  [/SPOILER][/SPOILER]
  
  New Enchants[SPOILER="New Enchants"]
  Prefix:[SPOILER="Prefix"]
  Orient Enchant
  Rank C
  Can be enchanted on Shuriken
  Min Damage 1~3 increase
  Shuriken Mastery B+ Max Damage 5~8 increase
  
  Rising Enchant
  Rank A
  Can be enchanted on Shuriken
  Shuriken Mastery r5+ Max Damage 10~14 increase
  Daichi-Jin r4+ 10WILL increase
  Midare-Kunai r5+ 10~14STR increase
  Can be enchanted regardless of rank
  [Repair fee 15% increase]
  
  Power
  Rank8
  Can be enchanted on Cloth and Armor
  Shuriken Mastery r7+ Min Damage 3~6 increase
  Rasen-Zan r5+ 10WILL increase
  Kage-Shibari r1+ 20STR increase
  Can be enchanted regardless of rank.
  [/SPOILER]
  Suffix:[SPOILER="suffix"]
  Without Omission
  Rank 9
  Can be enchanted on Shuriken
  Shuriken Mastery rA+ Max Damage 6increase
  Rasen-Zan r6+ 6HP increase
  Kage-Shibari r3+ critical 10increase
  Can be enchanted regardless of rank
  
  Sharp
  Rank7
  Can be enchanted on Cloth and Armor
  Midare-Kunai r1+ WILL12~17 increase
  Daichi-Jin- r1+ STR20 increase
  Shuriken Mastery r1+ critical 15increase
  Can be enchanted regardless of its rank
  
  Chivalrous
  Rank4
  Can be enchanted on Cloth and Armor
  Shuriken Mastery r1+ Max Damage 15~20 increase
  Daichi-Jin- r1+ WILL15 increase
  Kage-Shibari r1+ Stamina 15~20increase
  OboroEnmaku r2+ HP20 increase
  Can be enchanted regardless of its rank
  [Repair fee x3]
  
  Durable
  Rank5
  Can be enchanted on Cloth and Armor
  Ougi-SakuraShigure- r3+ Max Damage 18 increase
  Yamiuchi -Sen- r3+ WILL 12 increase
  Kage-Shibari r1+ STR15~20 increase
  OboroEnmaku r2+ critical 7~12 increase
  Can be enchanted regardless of its rank
  [Repair fee x3]
  
  Useful
  rankB
  can be enchanted on Shuriken
  Critical 3 increase
  Midare-Kunai rankB+ Min damage 2~4 increase.[/SPOILER][/SPOILER]
  
  
  
  there's a few more pics and stuff to introduce about, but for the time being(i had to go do my house work x.x), ill just post this~
  
  
  Hagi and Anzu's Cloth bag.[SPOILER="Hagi and Anzu's box"]
  just like other Hero's cloth bag, it contains Ninja(Hagi or Anzu)'s clothing set.
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/Plu9VQh.jpg]

  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/UdpRLtZ.jpg]

  [/SPOILER]
  
  Hagi and Anzu'z treasure box(gacha)
  a gacha that contains Ninja's hairstyle and other few new goods.
  [SPOILER="picture~"]

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/7MJWoCM.jpg]

  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/5vcZ7Hd.jpg]

  
  those ear on Ninja's hairstyle move~ Hagi's hairstyle is cute.
  [/SPOILER]
  [/SPOILER]

  
  
  Anyone know if the event weapon is special upgradable? or if the blacksmithed ones can be special upgraded?
• Jake wrote on 2014-06-25 21:49

  Quote from Hyoheki;1228164:

  Anyone know if the event weapon is special upgradable? or if the blacksmithed ones can be special upgraded?

  
  
  According to an overseas blog linked by kaeporo, only the blacksmith ones are special upgradable
• uoi100 wrote on 2014-06-25 21:52
  Do Ninja Weapons benefit in attack speed like gunner? For example very fast weapons can attack even faster? Or will it be hard-capped at very fast?
• Aubog007 wrote on 2014-06-26 02:55
  Well. 5k CP here we come?