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M wrote on 2014-06-28 23:55
Quote from Jake;1228814:
They use a ranged attack by default.
oh ok. Thats odd then that they can use smash and assault slash
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Jake wrote on 2014-06-29 00:17
Quote from M;1228816:
oh ok. Thats odd then that they can use smash and assault slash
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzI5OTU1OTA4.html
I guess it's necessary or something while other skills are on cooldown. According to my friend who showed me this, the person has capped stats, and has ninja skills reforged. Not sure about skill ranks though
edit: skill ranks aren't capped. he ranked one up towards the end of the video.
also
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzMxNDQ5MzU2.html
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Zeo wrote on 2014-06-29 03:06
Still waiting on confirmation where giants get low damage multiplier, humans get medium damage multiplier while the elves is highest.
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Jake wrote on 2014-06-29 03:45
Quote from Zeo;1228841:
Still waiting on confirmation where giants get low damage multiplier, humans get medium damage multiplier while the elves is highest.
I'm pretty sure that's just wishful thinking for you at this point..no extracted skill tables for the talent (so far) show any variations in percentages
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Zeo wrote on 2014-06-29 03:49
Quote from Jake;1228846:
I'm pretty sure that's just wishful thinking for you at this point..no extracted skill tables for the talent (so far) show any variations in percentages
Some people have claimed to find the different damage multiplier for each race in Ninja skill, so I want a 100% confirmation on it that it's true or not.
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Kouki wrote on 2014-06-29 04:04
Ranged attack that can use melee skills... I am finally interested in something as a skill update.
But is the ranged attacking similar to dual guns where there's no loading/aiming involved, or is there loading/aiming like bows? I hope it's not too difficult to use.
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Yoru wrote on 2014-06-29 04:32
Quote from Fran;1228848:
Ranged attack that can use melee skills... I am finally interested in something as a skill update.
But is the ranged attacking similar to dual guns where there's no loading/aiming involved, or is there loading/aiming like bows? I hope it's not too difficult to use.
If you looked at the video posted previously you can see that it's like dual guns. There's no aiming or animation. Clearly that player had no lag whatsoever but yeah it does seem fast pace and rather easy to use. So many combo options too.
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Slayerj wrote on 2014-06-29 06:10
Oh god damn it. Did they seriously do that? The damn normal attack seems to have the same stun as guns. That's so annoying. >.>
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Osu wrote on 2014-06-29 13:38
Quote from JoeyDee9;1228129:
Formula for shurikens is (str+will)/4 making it have the highest stat contribution out of all the weapon classes in game.
I hate picking on details but I really do have to say here.. puppets?
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Slayerj wrote on 2014-06-29 14:12
Quote from Osu;1228917:
I hate picking on details but I really do have to say here.. puppets?
True, but only 70% of that goes to the puppet. Which would be less total dmg than what ninja's stats give it. (assuming for both ninja and puppet, that you have capped str/dex/will.)
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Entia wrote on 2014-06-29 17:52
Quote from Osu;1228917:
I hate picking on details but I really do have to say here.. puppets?
3000/3.5=857.1428571428571, so yes the potential >bar< max from having 1500 str+1500 dex is higher than the 750 ninja can get from str+will, however the puppet only gets 70% of that, 857.1428571428571*0.7=600, the same as 1500/2.5 for swords bows and so on.
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Kaeporo wrote on 2014-06-29 18:50
Quote from Entia;1228930:
3000/3.5=857.1428571428571, so yes the potential >bar< max from having 1500 str+1500 dex is higher than the 750 ninja can get from str+will, however the puppet only gets 70% of that, 857.1428571428571*0.7=600, the same as 1500/2.5 for swords bows and so on.
Devil's Cry is probably still strongest with control bars.
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Osu wrote on 2014-06-29 20:51
Quote from Slayerj;1228920:
True, but only 70% of that goes to the puppet. Which would be less total dmg than what ninja's stats give it. (assuming for both ninja and puppet, that you have capped str/dex/will.)
I do believe the stat contribution was the subject, but if you wanna go with damage, puppets have their own base of 245. :P
Quote from Entia;1228930:
3000/3.5=857.1428571428571, so yes the potential >bar< max from having 1500 str+1500 dex is higher than the 750 ninja can get from str+will, however the puppet only gets 70% of that, 857.1428571428571*0.7=600, the same as 1500/2.5 for swords bows and so on.
Going with what I just said^ 857*.7 ~ 599.9+245 = 844.9, so.. :3
My point was honestly there's way more dex than will and str is of course even between the two, but if you guys wanna count capping stats with food or etc., there are your numbers.~
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Entia wrote on 2014-06-29 21:29
We are talking about stats, stats give the puppet 600 max, stats give shuriken 750 max. I was simply explaining to you that bar max from stats != puppet max.
As for stat pools from skills/talents/levelups, it's a moot point with dark knight and catering. Endgame DK will cap str int and dex after ninja's stats are added to the pool, from there it's just pecan pies for the will. I'm sure they'll add even more overpowered food to cater once they uncap cooking the rest of the way too if grilled white dragon hearts weren't op enough for anyone lol.
Back on the subject of the ninja skillset though, has anyone gotten a hold of the blacksmithed shurikens and special upgraded them yet? I'm curious as to if they get 1 or 2 handed R type bonuses.
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Jake wrote on 2014-06-29 21:32
Quote from Entia;1228960:
Back on the subject of the ninja skillset though, has anyone gotten a hold of the blacksmithed shurikens and special upgraded them yet? I'm curious as to if they get 1 or 2 handed R type bonuses.
I've been told by the friend who sent me the youku videos and provided me with that information they are 1h special upgraded