Thoughts about Saga 2?

• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-10-10 04:06
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  Prologue
  
  Honestly, I think it came off really dull. The heroes' entire concepts, personality and abilities, are extremely cliche. If they're "heroes", they must be really poor at their jobs because Merlin and Starlet annoyed/upset the little Tarlach; they don't make good models like Superman.
  

  
  
  • I don't care if he's "cute", he still fucking used and betrayed us! Why are we FORCED to help him even after what he fucking did to us?!
    
  • Merlin's an arrogant, lovestruck bitch, making us do all the fucking work just like every other NPC in the game.
    
  • Starlet's one of those characters with a "soothing aura" and also has that "oblivious to love" personality.
    
  • Culinary Artist: "DYNAMIC ENTRY!" He literally does that. My character's "O_O" but it makes me sick to my stomach. He's just an obsessed foodie; what's so great about him?
    
  • ... I have nothing to say to J since he just shows up to take advantage of my hard work.

  
  
  The entire quest chain is just "get this and that" which is boring as fuck. That one mission didn't look too hard, but I only finished it due to the mobs getting stuck. It had a bit of a clincher, but I think their damage being higher than the given health is a bit excessive, especially when using the defense skill won't cut crap.
  I don't see why people are complaining about the ladders; just hide behind the trees.
  
  Episode 1
  NOOOOOOOOOO! THEY TOOK OUT THE MINI-GAME AT THE END! WHY!? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?!
  
  *Ahem*
  
  

  
  
  • More boring errand shit.
    
  • That story about "Merlin beating up the bear"... I just want to puke. Good thing Culinary Artist corrected the story by saying "Merlin lied and the Bear lived happily ever after", but that doesn't change my feelings.
    
  • BYE BYE CHEF! Hey wait, why don't you fly us all to Dunbarton?!
    
  • Random Neid is random. Merlin gets his "cool". ...Puking incoming. Or better yet Tarlach should sneeze on him. >.>
    
  • Kristell's reaction to Tarlach was far less dramatic than I hoped, but expected. She just says Tarlach got lost when he gets in Dunbarton not bringing up anything about "he seems familiar" along the lines, and later she laments that they haven't seen each other in so long. Kind of dull, really.
    
  • Ruairi talking to Young Tarlach was probably the only thing that interested me. A little heartfelt moment where Ruairi chats up the kid a bit and Tarlach feels at very unease with him.
    
  • Seriously, how do heroes lose a package? At this point they all look like bad role models.
    
  • How did I, who Saved the Goddess + the Savior of Erinn + countless titles, stoop so low to community service?!
    
  • Starlet doesn't want to play in a concert? How ironic. I know it gets explained in Episode 2 though.
    
  • HOW DO I SUCK AT MUSIC PLAYING?! I'M FUCKING RANK 1 IN ALL BARD SKILLS! GET OFF THE STAGE MERLIN, J!
    

  
  
  Episode 2
  
  

  
  
  • Err... Starlet and doggy, then we have to bring out her confidence... That didn't move me one bit.
    
  • Starlet's doggy blew up because some kid pointed at it... (Thank you Eiry for pointing it out) Just WTF.
    
  • HOW DO I LOSE IN ROCK-PAPER-SCISSORS?! I AM THE ROCK-PAPER-SCISSORS MASTER, AND I HAVE THE TITLE!
    
  • Bye Starlet, bye J, FOREVER! Thank you for leeching off all my hard work!
    
  • So, Tarlach has a drawing.... of Merlin, Starlet, J, Culinary Artist, Kristell, and himself... WHY AM I NOT IN IT?!
    
  • That pirate talk was actually more frustrating than I thought. There's a large number of choices, and each response only has one counter. I don't get why I have to talk them down... And Merlin does nothing!
    
  • The pirate thing also came off to me as wrong. Isn't Mabi meant for pre-teenagers? A ten-year old doing pirate talk is just... I can see a lot of their parents getting worried.
    
  • Tarlach's nightmare was just... creepy in some areas. Ehh...
    
  • ... How does Crumena come back, after being killed by Taunes long ago? I know Nuadha, Cichol, and Macha revive but Deities =/= Dragons.
    
  • All I can say is Treasure Hunter is nothing but a greedy ass. Merlin and TH make a wonderful pair don't they?
    

  
  
  Clearly, the Milletians get no love anymore... :gloom3::shoe::cry:
  
  Episode 3
  
  

  
  
  • Ah, nothing but a stupid wild goose chase and more stupid idiots arguing.
    
  • Atrata, Akule, and Shamala AT LEAST remember us... Unlike Aodhan >.>
    
  • Atrata... You bless Merlin and Treasure Hunter but not me? After I saved your ass in G8?
    
  • Though I don't like Akule in general, thankfully he's not being a dick this time and he agrees that Merlin is stupid and arrogant.
    
  • Shamala's interaction as if she recognized Treasure Hunter was incredibly brief. Sadly it's the only time we see her
    
  • Millia... good riddance she's still sleeping. Her interaction with the Book of Bith was pretty random though.
    
  • How the fuck are slimes considered "aliens"?
    
  • *sigh* Merlin you reckless bitch.
    
  • Treasure Hunter, you're supposed to be part merchant and part treasure hunter aren't you? How come you don't know Commerce Mastery, Gold Strike, Artifact Investigation, or Crisis Escape?!
    
  • All the missions were stupidly easy. The "aliens" were just duo'd by Merlin and TH, the bandits, demons, scorpions, and Ifrit are stupidly annoying, and the wyverns were weak as hell and I had no need to flint even once.
    
  • So, Mabinogi is part First Person Shooter now? That aiming accuracy was pretty erratic, but the mission itself doesn't deserve my credit because, as I said, the wyverns were stupidly weak.
    

  
  
  Episode 4
  

  
  
  • Merlin, you fucking suck.
    
  • So, exactly what was the point of disguising Pinky?
    
  • ... This is called "The Black Book", right? There's barely any depth to it; all we know is that it lets TH do some mumbo jumbo shit and only he can read it.
    

  
  
  Episode 5
  

  
  
  • Merlin stop being an asshole.
    
  • ... How the fuck did the Cessair knock me unconscious, when I'm supposed to have Akule's charm?
    
  • Some lore that's fucking difficult to understand due to lack of depth and some random people.
    
  • Uh... Why is Merlin stupidly OP when fighting Heart, when he's stupidly weak when fighting alongside me?
    
  • Treasure Hunter... is a Cessair? I can barely understand what the hell's going on.
    

  
  
  Episode 6
  

  
  
  • At least they answered that Cessair were the former conductor of Adniel a long time ago. But why do they control him, WHEN I'M THE CURRENT CONDUCTOR?!
    
  • Treasure Hunter's RP is stupid. I've failed it multiple times because Merlin didn't do his fucking job.
    
  • So... Tarlach = Falias Gatekeeper or something?
    
  • Ruairi = Keaghan. :/
    
  • What was the point of opening the door if NO ONE is left to fight the Gods?
    
  • Merlin is still the douche he is, and I'm the one forced to return Tarlach? I guess "Then, nothing happened."
    
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-10-10 04:34
  Do we need to put spoilers on this topic? Oh well...
  
  [spoiler=Characters/Story]None of the characters have much personality at all. I'm disappointed that they turned Tarlach into a kid just to make him a boring hyper-cliche moma's boy, or in this case the Milletian. The game gives you the option to refuse to help Merlin but after choosing it you help him anyways. Ironically despite having Merlin the master magician and Starlet the diva, there is no mention of magic or performances. I barely even noticed Professor J or Master Chef who are just kind of plopped in there near the end.[/spoiler]
  
  [spoiler=Content]Most of the content was pretty much fetch quests and aimless running around, not much surprise there. We are given one interesting mission with the boars, which I found was the most enjoyable part of the prologue, though that's not too hard. It was surprising that the boars deal 900 damage with no way to really block them, but having a mission where it's actually possible to lose is a rarity in Mabinogi and I welcome in.
  
  The worst part is the community outcry about this mission being impossible or way too hard. I hope people realize this is exactly what's going to happen if actual challenging content appears in Mabinogi. I didn't expect people to be so defeatist, but I really should have seen it coming.[/spoiler]
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-10-10 04:48

  Quote from Zekkii;1250508:

  Do we need to put spoilers on this topic? Oh well...
  
  The game gives you the option to refuse to help Merlin but after choosing it you help him anyways.

  
  
  Spoilers to prevent, you know, spoiling.
  
  Yeah, I tried to refuse Merlin but I'm still forced to help him >.>
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-10-10 04:53

  Quote from Darkboy132;1250512:

  Spoilers to prevent, you know, spoiling.

  
  I just don't find it necessary given the title.
• nandattebayo wrote on 2014-10-10 06:25
  What's so hard about the ladders? I had no problem using them.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-10-10 07:34

  Quote from nandattebayo;1250524:

  What's so hard about the ladders? I had no problem using them.

  
  
  "Lag". "I clicked on it a billion times and I didn't go up it!"
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-10-10 07:40
  Mabinogi's story has never been good and it jumped the shark at Avon.
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-10-10 08:34

  Quote from Darkboy132;1250526:

  "Lag". "I clicked on it a billion times and I didn't go up it!"

  
  I think people are trying to use it during Rock Throw's animation. If not that then they must be clicking through the trees, or missing entirely. Really though, if player's can't do a simple RP mission then actual challenging content is going to be a total combat shock.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2014-10-10 10:22
  I don't follow cliches so needless to say complaints about cliches fall flat on me and all I hear is people bitching and complaining.
  
  Anyways, it's no secret that I'm a sucker for storyline, no matter how "lame" people think it is.
  
  Anyways, to sum up the Prologue for me anyways cause screw you guys and your complaints >.>
  
  *ahem*
  
  Merlin is a jerk, Little Tarlach is the cuttest little thing ever! Yes I LOVE Little Tarlach! Come here my darling, nobody will hurt you! We will run away to the countryside and have cute lives together! *glares at Merlin* *looks at Starlet* well you can come too, but you have got to work on your cooking my dear. Or just let me cook as I'm a Rank 5 chef and at least have an inkling of what I'm doing.
  
  "Culinary Artist" (still haven't gotten used to that, such original names devcat *rolls eyes*)...teach me your ways! I want to become a Master Chef too!
  
  As for Professor J, he seems like the insanely strict educational type. Perfect to put Merlin in his place.
  
  Anyways spoiler warning for future episodes...
  [spoiler="Who's the bigger jerk?"]
  If what I've heard about Treasure Hunter is true, it's going to be a Jerk Off from Episode 3 onward as Treasure Hunter is just as much a greedy asshole as Merlin is a stubborn Jerk who thinks he's all that and a bag of potato chips
  [/spoiler]
  
  Okay I'm done. *FLAME SHIELD UP*
  
  *flees*
  
  Oh wait forgot something...you guys all are veggie haters! Go eat some Chocolate Steak or something! But here have the veggies Starlet cooked that taste funny!
  
  *tosses Starlet's odd tasting veggies at you guys and runs out the door*
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-10-10 10:49

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1250536:

  Okay I'm done. *FLAME SHIELD UP*

  
  
  Fuck your shield.
  
  I'll give this episode a tiny amount of credit; the plot was at least coherent. The majority of Mabinogi's story can be summarized as a "pretentious clusterfuck".
  
  What happened to Jenna, Leymore, and Cai? What of the alchemists in Tara? How about Shakespheare or any of the characters in Avon? Any word from Shamala, Akule, and Millia?...oh, that's right. We'll have the pleasure of catching up with that bitch later.
  
  We've got the [S]three[/S] two warriors (because Mari is just a pair of tits these days) and the Aces. The aces had no background prior to Saga II, and correct me if i'm wrong, but they're not even included in the Divine Knight story. A new cast of soon-to-be-forgotten characters will replace them.
  
  So, forgive me if I don't give a shit about their character development. Chapter 3 and G16 were the most interesting mainstream quests, in my opinion.
  
  My apologies if this seems unduly harsh. I'm sick of DevCat putting forth minimal required effort and receiving praise in turn.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2014-10-10 11:15

  Quote from Kaeporo;1250537:

  Fuck your shield.
  
  I'll give this episode a tiny amount of credit; the plot was at least coherent. The majority of Mabinogi's story can be summarized as a "pretentious clusterfuck".
  
  What happened to Jenna, Leymore, and Cai? What of the alchemists in Tara? How about Shakespheare or any of the characters in Avon? Any word from Shamala, Akule, and Millia?...oh, that's right. We'll have the pleasure of catching up with that bitch later.
  
  We've got the [S]three[/S] two warriors (because Mari is just a pair of tits these days) and the Aces. The aces had no background prior to Saga II, and correct me if i'm wrong, but they're not even included in the Divine Knight story. A new cast of soon-to-be-forgotten characters will replace them.
  
  So, forgive me if I don't give a shit about their character development. Chapter 3 and G16 were the most interesting mainstream quests, in my opinion.
  
  My apologies if this seems unduly harsh. I'm sick of DevCat putting forth minimal required effort and receiving praise in turn.

  
  
  That's fair enough but it isn't going to get any better so unless you can shout Korean, it's going to fall on deaf ears. Only other thing you can do is complain to NA in the hopes they pass that on to KR.
  
  Chapter 6 continues onward with a brand new plot with a new set of characters.
  
  So in my mind, rather than bitch about things that I cannot control or shape in any way whatsoever, I'm going to try and enjoy what little bit I do get which is the only reason why I'm getting pissy.
  
  Don't like the storyline? Bitch at NA Nexon to bitch at KR, but it isn't going to change the existing story whatsoever. In other words, no use crying over spilt milk. All this complaining and bitching could be put to much better use than having a pissing contest on a fan forum that Nexon tries their best to ignore.
  
  Anyways I'm done now, as my bitching at your guys bitching is sounding really dumb and stupid and I know I'm not going to get through to you guys and you'll just keep on bitching about the content like you always do *le sigh*
  
  Sometimes I don't even know why I bother putting in the effort to bring you guys information if you're just going to take a shit on it.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-10-10 11:48

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1250538:

  That's fair enough but it isn't going to get any better so unless you can shout Korean, it's going to fall on deaf ears. Only other thing you can do is complain to NA in the hopes they pass that on to KR.
  
  Chapter 6 continues onward with a brand new plot with a new set of characters.
  
  So in my mind, rather than bitch about things that I cannot control or shape in any way whatsoever, I'm going to try and enjoy what little bit I do get which is the only reason why I'm getting pissy.
  
  Don't like the storyline? Bitch at NA Nexon to bitch at KR, but it isn't going to change the existing story whatsoever. In other words, no use crying over spilt milk. All this complaining and bitching could be put to much better use than having a pissing contest on a fan forum that Nexon tries their best to ignore.
  
  Anyways I'm done now, as my bitching at your guys bitching is sounding really dumb and stupid and I know I'm not going to get through to you guys and you'll just keep on bitching about the content like you always do *le sigh*
  
  Sometimes I don't even know why I bother putting in the effort to bring you guys information if you're just going to take a shit on it.

  
  
  I'm sorry.
  
  I've been pretty negative about Mabinogi as of late; the whole thing seems pretty bleak. I do appreciate your efforts. There aren't a whole lot of us left and that knowledge hasn't helped my sunny disposition.
  
  I did like that the boar mission was threatening and i'm glad that DevCat is still giving us the illusion of choice in the storyline.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2014-10-10 12:05

  Quote from Kaeporo;1250540:

  I'm sorry.
  
  I've been pretty negative about Mabinogi as of late; the whole thing seems pretty bleak. I do appreciate your efforts. There aren't a whole lot of us left and that knowledge hasn't helped my sunny disposition.
  
  I did like that the boar mission was threatening and i'm glad that DevCat is still giving us the illusion of choice in the storyline.

  
  
  Thank you, I also apologize for my bitchiness, it's just that all the complaining gets to me after awhile. Good to know that you enjoyed some aspects of it. I actually like a lot of the interesting and unique things devcat tried with this storyline. Some of the missions in the later episodes are rather fun and unique even though the storyline is indeed a bit lackluster.
• Code2008 wrote on 2014-10-10 13:04
  To be fair, they did change the Shakespeare storyline mid-way through due to the complaining of KR players (can't remember if NA was to the Shakespeare arc yet by that time or not).
• Kyishi wrote on 2014-10-10 14:20
  it's anime