Dual Guns Talent Guide [UPDATED 3/27]

• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-10-28 10:14
  Dual Guns Talent Guide [UPDATED 3/27/15]
  
  Hey guys, I will be explaining basics of dual guns as well as focusing on tips for improving gameplays for higher-up gunslingers. I hope this guide will help for aspiring gunslingers!
  
  If you have any questions, let me know on Nation or Mabi/Alexina - Kinsoo.
  If you know more useful tips and caveats, feel free to share them below!
  
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  [SIZE="4"][Intro][/SIZE]
  
  [SIZE="3"]Understanding Gunslinger Talent[/SIZE]:
  
  

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  -Stats based on STR/INT (5 str/int per 1 dual gun max damage)
  -Does not have elemental reforges along with Puppetry and Ninja
  -2hit attacks, short range
  -Has bullet magazine
  
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/ctSKd/5343883649.jpg]

  
  
  Dual guns are very unique compared to other talents.
  If I were to explain dual gun talent in three words, they are going to be:
  
  -High-risk, high-return
  -Stylish
  -High potentials
  
  Dual guns have high-risk because all of its skills result aggro from mobs. If you hit multiple mobs with Windmill or Crashshot, only one of them will most likely to aggro you. If you hit multiple mobs using dual gun skills (Shooting Rush/Bullet Storm), all the mobs that are affected by them will aggro you. Yes, dual gun skills are excellent in area-of-effect damage, but as a consequence, you have to deal with endless mob aggro.
  
  Training gun skills to rank 1 is also intimidating. For Reload skill (which is one of grindest dual gun skill), it requires you to use "Reload" 3,867 times at rank 2. You also have to spend extra time on ranking skills, because dual gun damage is based on STR and INT--stats/skillsets that consume heavy amount of AP and time to rank.
  
  But once you put efforts on your stats and gears, guns are going to be the most fun to use, not to mention its high potential AOE damage. Shooting Rush + Bulletstorm does 1,000% damage in short period of time--as an area. Way of the Gun (abbreviated as WotG) is arguably the #1 bossing skill, which deals 312% per hit, with increased attack speed. Bullet Slide/Grapple Shot/Flash Launcher are perfect skills that can add up to your custom gun-combos.
  
  Nevertheless, dual guns have their weaknesses:
  a)Extremely stat/gear dependent
  b)Causes aggro
  c)Lack of STR/INT bonus in dual gun skills
  d)Ping and connection speed dependent
  
  Gun damages are heavily based on stats and gears because dual guns do not offer a lot of weapon damage bonus compared to other skillsets. Lance adds 70 plus max damage whereas Dowra only adds up 30.
  
  Aggro is definitely problem-some, especially if you run out of bullets.
  
  Unlike puppetry/ninja, dual guns are not suitable for newbies. I recommend aspiring gunslingers to focus more on Close Combat skillsets because they offer more max stats for guns. I do however recommend getting rank 1 Shooting Rush/Bullet Storm/WotG/Gun Mastery.
  
  Unlike other popular contrary, Dual Guns are NOT heavily depended on reforges. About 30% of gun damage comes from gears/enchants, 50% from character stats, and 20% from reforges (Dual Gun Max).
  
  Reforges such as Dual Gun Max Damage, Shooting Rush Damage, Bulletstorm Damage are nice to have, but I don't believe they are a must.
  
  About internet connection: you can't maximize gunslinger DPS with slow/unstable internet. Lowering MTU might help you, but there's nothing we can do for regional differences (ex: playing NA Mabi from EU)
  
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  [SIZE="4"][Skills][/SIZE]
  
  [SIZE="3"]Brief explanation of each skills[/SIZE]
  
  *Training Dual Gun skills is indeed very tedious, but using Treasure Hunter Emblem will help you significantly
  *More info: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Treasure_Hunter_Emblem
  
  

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  Dual Gun Mastery
  
  -Increases your Dual Gun Max 30, Min 15, and Critical by 6%.
  -Spamming hotkey (instead of clicking) will significantly increase normal/WotG attack rate.
  
  You can drag dual gun skill icon into a hotkey.
  
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/ctTfu/dabee58c82.jpg]

  
  
  Reload
  
  -Decreases your reload time by 0.1 seconds per rank
  -Rank 1 recommended for your safety
  -Extremely difficult to rank up
  
  A lot of people underestimate Reload skill. It is extremely important for gunners to rank this ASAP. If your Reload rank is too low, it is almost impossible to reload while you are aggro'd.
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/ctTp7/58daaba768.jpg]

  
  
  
  Bullet Slide
  
  -Escape skill for gunners
  -Can be activated while stunned/getting stunned
  -Consumes 4 bullets
  
  Best escape skill in my opinion. Lets you fall back & push mob for extra distance.
  It will not however push mobs that have Natural Shield/Ranged Attack defense.
  
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/ctTy6/661843bc33.jpg]

  
  
  Flash Launcher
  
  -"Smash" skill for dual guns
  -Spam ESC button for faster animation time
  -Consumes 4 bullets
  
  Dual gun smash. At rank 1 it does 900% damage.
  Works well with Shooting Rush - Flash Launcher combo.
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/ctTLE/a7fac0467d.jpg]

  
  
  Grapple Shot
  
  -Gapcloser skill
  -Extremely grindy to rank up
  -Consumes 2 bullets
  
  Lets you target your friend/enemy to gap-close. Probably the most unused skill among dual gun skillset.
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/3/3e/Gun_Ballet.png]

  
  
  Shooting Rush
  
  -Bread and Butter of Dual Gun skills
  -400% damage at rank 1, 480% damage with lvl20 Shooting Rush Damage Boots
  -Instant cast, short cooldown, huge area-effect
  -Consumes 8 bullet
  
  One of reasons why Dual Guns can decimate mobs so efficiently.
  Can be used for repositioning. Damage shown will be (N/4), N = total damage.
  Damage itself is not necessarily lower compared to other talents (ex: Crashshot)
  
  

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  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/c/c8/Bullet_Storm.png]

  
  
  Bullet Storm
  
  -Another AOE skill that is harder to use & has longer cooldown
  -120% to 600% damage, depending on how many mobs you hit
  -Consumes 4 bullets per target
  
  A 600% AoE nuke on mobs.
  The effective range for Bullet Storm is relatively small compared to Shooting Rush. I say it's very AOE Pet/Crisis dependent skill.
  Best effective on Dowra guns, hard to hit all 10 mobs with Taunes due to bullet capacity.
  
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/b/b4/Way_of_the_Gun.png]

  
  
  Way of the Gun
  
  -Bread and Butter of Dual Guns
  -1v1 ultimate bossing skill
  -No durability loss/usage except activation
  -Upon activation, all your dual gun skill cooldowns are refreshed, has infinite bullet, increased attack speed, and all your normal hits have critical effect.
  
  The most OP skill in Mabinogi in my opinion. Resets cooldown, increases attack speed, all crit, and lasts pretty long.
  
  [video=youtubeold;UhtGvFnw25c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhtGvFnw25c[/video]
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-10-28 10:23
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  [SIZE="4"][Equipment][/SIZE]
  
  Choosing gears for gunslinger is not too different compared to other talents. However, gunners can take advantage on using "Attack Speed" set -- which increases your rate of fire & your DPS by ~15%.
  
  Some notable "Attack Speed" sets or equipment:
  
  Chinese Dragon Helm - Attack Speed 4
  Chinese Dragon Boots - Attack Speed 2
  Chinese Dragon Armor - Attack Speed 3
  Chinese Dragon Gauntlet - Attack Speed 2
  
  Languhiris Chaser Armor - Attack Speed 4
  Languhiris Chaser Boots - Attack Speed 2
  Languhiris Chaser Gauntlet - Attack Speed 2
  Languhiris Chaser Circlet - Attack Speed 2
  
  Note that attack speed bonus activates when SET BONUSES ARE 10 OR ABOVE
  
  Good example :
  Languhiris Chaser Armor (4) + Chinese Dragon Helm (4) + Languhiris Chaser Boots (2) = 10
  
  Bad example :
  Chinese Dragon Armor (3) + Languhiris Chaser Circlet (2) + Languhiris Chaser Boots (2) = 7
  
  [SIZE="1"]*Can be stacked/combined with Attack Speed effect from enchants (ex: Automatic ES)[/SIZE]
  
  
  [SIZE="4"][Choosing Dual Guns][/SIZE]
  
  Although there are many types of Dual Guns in Mabinogi, I will be speaking of two Dual Guns: Dowra SE and Taunes MK3.
  
  Reasons behind that are those two guns can be special-upgraded and considered to be the most efficient weapon among all dual guns.
  
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/ctVtu/a32fec6625.jpg]

  
  
  [SIZE="3"]Dowra SE[/SIZE]
  
  -Fast speed (can be faster with attack speed set)
  -64 bullet capacity
  -Low weapon max compared to Taunes MK3
  -High Balance & Critical Rate
  -800 Attack-range
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/ctVBZ/6c6df2d664.jpg]

  
  
  [SIZE="3"]Taunes MK3[/SIZE]
  
  -Slow speed (can be faster with attack speed set)
  -36 bullet capacity
  -High weapon max compared to Dowra SE
  -Low Balance & Critical Rate
  -700 Attack range
  
  
  [SIZE="3"]*Which dual guns should I use?[/SIZE]
  
  Depends on your play-style. If you enjoy using normal attacks on dual guns, Dowra SE may be better for you-- if you enjoy only using skills (Shooting Rush/Bulletstorm) and/or only use dual guns for Way of the Gun, then Taunes MK3 may be better for you.'
  
  Also many people underestimate "magazine capacity". A low magazine capacity means that you have to spend more time reloading and thus can greatly hinder your DPS. It is nearly impossible to Bullet Storm all 12 mobs with Taunes.
  
  
  Also additional information on attack speed:
  
  [SIZE="1"]Normal Attack Speed[/SIZE]
  
  Attack Speed Set Dowra > Normal Dowra > Attack Speed Taunes > Normal Taunes
  
  [SIZE="1"]Way of the Gun Attack Speed[/SIZE]
  
  Attack Speed Set Dowra = Normal Dowra = Attack Speed Taunes > Normal Taunes
  
  Therefore, it is best for you to get an attack speed set regardless of which weapon you are using.
  If you plan to use Dowra, attackspeed set can be optional.
  If you plan to use Taunes, attackspeed set is pretty much required.
  
  
  [SIZE="4"][Enchants/Reforges][/SIZE]
  
  

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  [SIZE="3"]*Dual Gun Enchants[/SIZE]
  
  *Prefix:
  
  Untamed (rA) - Max 16, Repair fee +5%
  Demi Lich (r8) - Max 20
  Officer's (r5) - Max 10~28, Repair fee 2x
  Conqueror (r4) - Max 20~25, Str+40, Repair fee 5x
  
  
  *Suffix:
  
  Crocodile (r7) - Max 29, Str+20 (Giant-sided)
  Destruction (r9) - Max 15~26
  Violent (rA) - Max 20
  
  Automatic (r8) - Attack Speed 8
  Fierce (rA) - Max 24, Repair fee +3%
  67th floor (r4) - Max 30~40, Str 15~20, Repair fee 5x
  Girgashiy (r8) - Max 30~35, Str 30~50, Repair fee 5x
  
  
  *Attack Speed Enhancements
  
  Automatic (r8): Attack Speed 8 (Suffix, Dual Guns)
  Hummingbird (r7): Attack Speed 2~3 (Suffix, Hats/Helmets)
  Viscount (rA): Attack Speed 2 & Max Damage 8 (Suffix, Metal Boots Only)
  Hawk (rA): Attack Speed 1~3, Max Damage 5 (Suffix, Boots)
  
  For other max damage-enhancing enchants, this guide might help youIronwoman's Gears & Enchants Guide
  
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  "I don't care about repair fee, I just want the best damage"
  
  Officer's/Conqueror & 67th floor
  Officer's/Conqueror & Girgashiy
  
  "I want good damage output and I can afford some repair fee"
  
  Officer's & Crocodile (or Fierce if you are Elf)
  Demi Lich & Crocodile (or Fierce if you are Elf)
  
  "I want good damage output and is cost-efficient"
  
  Untamed & Fierce
  Untamed & Violent
  Untamed & Destruction
  
  "I want attack speedset & I have a Viscount/Hawk boots"
  
  Untamed & Automatic
  Demi Lich & Automatic
  Officer's & Automatic
  
  
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  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/f/f2/Fine_Reforging_Tool.png]

  
  
  Reforges
  
  Weapons:
  
  Dual Gun Max Damage (5 per level)
  Reload Time (0.1 sec per level)
  Bullet Storm Damage (5% per level)*
  Bullet Storm Max Target (Additional 1 per level)
  
  
  Dual Gun Max Damage should be priority
  
  *Bullet Storm Damage on weapons increase total damage
  ex: Level 20 will increase it to 600% to 700% damage
  
  
  Gloves:
  
  Bullet Storm Range (0.1m per level)
  Bullet Storm Width (0.1m per level)
  Bullet Storm Damage (1% per level)*
  
  Bullet Storm Range/Width improvements are miniscule
  
  *Bullet Storm reforges on gloves only increase damage per shot, not total.
  ex: Level 20 would be 120% to 140% per target, but max damage given will be same (600%)
  
  
  Shoes:
  
  Shooting Rush Damage (4% per level)
  Shooting Rush Width (0.1m per level)
  Shooting Rush Distance (0.1m per level)
  
  Shooting Rush Damage should be priority
  
  Shooting Rush Damage boots will increase 20% of your current SR damage
  (Think of it as using a Bone Dragon Chip)
  
  
  Accessories:
  
  Dual Gun Max Damage (up to level 3)
  Shooting Rush Damage (up to level 3)
  Attack Speed (up to level 5)*
  Bullet Storm Max Damage (up to level 3)
  
  Dual Gun Max Damage should be priority for accessory reforges
  
  *Attack Speed on accessories are equivalent to Attack Speed effects (from gears/enchants)
  ex: You can activate Attack Speed Set by using "Attack Speed level 2" & "Automatic ES (lvl8)"
  
  
  Clothes:
  
  Flash Launcher Damage (5% per level)
  Bullet Slide Damage
  Grapple Shot Damage
  
  
  Hat:
  
  Way of the Gun Duration (0.5 sec per level)
  Way of the Gun Speed (10% per level?)
  
  Having WotG duration makes a big difference - duration level 20 will increase your total DPS by 35.7%
  
  WotG Speed is only effective for Taunes - having above level 5 will increase your speed IF your Taunes does NOT HAVE ATTACK SPEED SET
  
  WotG Speed Hat does NOT work on Dowras
  
  ex: WotG Speed lvl 5+ Hat Taunes = Attack Speed Taunes = Dowra
  
  One advantages of using WotG Speed Hat is that you do not need an "attack speed" set for full WotG speed:
  you can enchant damage Suffix enchants like "Crocodile" or "Fierce" instead of 'Automatic ES'.
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-10-28 13:09
  [SIZE="4"][Upgrades for Dual Guns][/SIZE]
  
  Before I start, please note that these are purely from my calculation/experience & most importantly you do not have an obligation to follow everything that is posted below this section. This, however, will probably give the most efficiency/utility among other choices.
  
  
  Dual Guns Upgrade Path
  
  

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  *Dowra SE
  
  a)Dmg-Dmg-Dmg-Dmg-Artisan Upgrade
  b)Dmg-Dmg-Dmg-Range-Artisan Upgrade
  c)Dmg-Dmg-Dmg-Range-Range
  
  [SIZE="1"]*Max damage artisan roll for Dowra SE: 12 max[/SIZE]
  
  
  Personally I would go with B or C upgrade path
  
  Extra max damage on 4th upgrade is beneficial, but reforges/enchants/Battlefield Overture/Catering can increase your damage output anyways. There are many ways to increase your gun max but no ways to increase your range other than upgrading. 100 Range > 8 max
  
  Choice B would be better if you want both some form of range upgrade and max damage.
  Choice C would be better for end-game people who don't need extra damage but need extra range.
  
  My current Dowras have B path but now I regret for not upgrading my dual guns to C.
  I also have a hard time using non-range upgraded Dowra SE as well
  
  To summarize:
  
  -Range upgrade is much better than max damage if you have stats/gears
  -2 Range upgrade difference is huge compared to non-range upgrade
  
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  *Taunes MK3
  
  a)Dmg-Dmg-Dmg-Dmg-Artisan Upgrade
  b)Dmg-Dmg-Dmg-Range-Artisan
  c)Magazine Capacity-Dmg-Dmg-Dmg-Artisan
  d)Magazine Capacity-Dmg-Dmg-Range-Artisan
  
  [SIZE="1"]*Max damage artisan roll for Taunes MK3: 37 max[/SIZE]
  
  
  I prefer C and D and reason why I always do Magazine Upgrade on Taunes:
  
  a)DPS loss from lack of magazine is actually pretty big
  b)Allows you to use Shooting Rush after Bullet Storm (MA Tourney)
  c)Taunes itself has a high base-max damage to cover them up
  
  Let's take MA Tourney (NPC) for an example.
  
  Each round has 8 NPCs: you can't use Shooting Rush after Bullet Storm because Taunes have 36 bullet capacity and using Bullet Storm takes up 32 bullets. If you do magazine upgrade, you can use Bullet Storm, then use Shooting Rush to finish off your combo. This will take up 40 bullets, which is impossible without regular Taunes.
  
  Usually, Taunes MK3 does not need range upgrade because you will rarely use auto-attacks due to its slow speed, but if you plan to use Way of the Gun with it, extra range upgrade will help. Not to mention Taunes have shorter ranger than Dowra guns.
  
  I would not do double-range upgrade on Taunes because Artisan Upgrade gives up to 37 max damage.
  
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  [SIZE="4"][Dual Talents/Skillsets][/SIZE]
  
  I believe one of strengths of using Dual Guns is the ability to mix-match with other skillsets.
  They are extremely flexible in terms of using for both Primary & Secondary skills, depending on how well you will utilize Dual Guns on your current talent.
  
  You can utilize all kinds of skillset-- puppet, lance, archery, alchemy, fighter, ninja, magic, and even battle bard on your plays.
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/d/da/Gold_Lance_Combat_Icon.png]

  
  
  Lance/Dual Guns - Mobility Combo
  
  Extremely mobile, you can always reposition yourself using Lance Charge/Shooting Rush
  Typical combo would be Shooting Rush - Lance Charge - Windmill
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/0/01/Gold_Archery_Icon.png]

  
  
  Archery/Dual Guns - Area of Effect Combo
  
  Maximize area of effect skills by using Crash Shot/SR/BS
  
  Typical combo would start with Crash Shot and finish up mobs using Shooting Rush/Bullet Storm.
  Useful on Shadow Missions where mobs constantly spawn. Not very effective in MA runs in my opinion.
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/1/1a/Control_Marionette.png]

  
  
  Puppet/Dual Guns - Area of Effect Combo with Act 6 Crisis
  
  Puppets offer a great set-up for Dual Gun skills. A typical setup will be:
  Crisis-Climactic Crash - Shooting Rush - Bullet Storm
  
  Extremely effective in MA runs, but not so very in Shadow Missions.
  Also useful in Lord missions.
  
  Only downside of this combo is that it is very Crisis-dependent. Crisis cooldown is pretty long and you need Crisis range reforged hat to pull this off more easily.
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/1/18/Silver_Martial_Arts_Icon.png]

  
  
  Fighter/Dual Guns - Very useful for boss fights
  
  Main set I use on Fleta round and bossing.
  Probably the number one skillset for boss, not for mobbing.
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/2/27/Silver_Battle_Alchemy_Icon.png]

  
  
  Alchemy/Dual Guns
  
  Water Cannon works pretty well with guns, not to mention Alchemy in general offers great utility. Does not work with Flameburst combo because Shooting Rush scatters mobs. Shock and WotG combo is my favorite.
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/5/5b/Silver_Ninja_Icon.png]

  
  
  Ninja/Dual Guns
  
  Like puppet, Ninja skills offer a great utility to set up dual gun skills.
  You can use Shadow Bind - Bullet Storm - Shooting Rush and de-aggro mobs by using Shadow Cloak.
  
  [S]One of my main interests at the moment. Will post later about Ninja combo as well.[/S]
  
  My favorite talents to use. You can spam AOE skills like Shooting Rush/Bullet Storm/Kunai Storm. You can make variety of combos using guns and shurikens.
  
  So far my favorite combo is:
  Charging Shuriken - Kunai Storm - Shooting Rush - Charging Shuriken - Bullet Storm
  
  Will upload Ninja/Gun mission runs soon
  
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  [SIZE="4"][Others][/SIZE]
  
  *Types of Bullets
  
  If you want to know how much max you are getting from bullets, check:
  
  

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  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/c/cb/Training_Mana_Bullet.png]

  
  
  Training Mana Bullet - adds up +5 max damage
  
  Can be bought from Engineers near Commerce Posts or
  Can be crafted using 'Magic Craft'
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/3/35/Mana_Bullet.png]

  
  
  Mana Bullet - adds up +10 max damage
  
  Crafted using 'Magic Craft'.
  Can be crafted from rank C
  1 Shyllien for 10 bullets
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/9/9f/High-Density_Mana_Bullet.png]

  
  
  High-Density Bullet - adds up +20 max damage
  
  Crafted using 'Magic Craft'.
  Available starting from rank 9
  1 Intact Shyllien for 10 bullets
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/8/82/Suntouched_Mana_Bullet.png]

  
  
  Suntouched Mana Bullet - adds up +30 max damage
  
  Crafted using 'Magic Craft'
  Available starting from rank 8
  Suntouched Shyllien Crystal for 50 bullets
  
  
  *Some tips for making an Attack Speed Set:
  
  -Chinese Dragon Helm (4) + Languhiris Chaser Armor (4) + Viscount ES (2)
  -Languhiris Chaser Set (10)
  -Chinese Dragon Set (10)
  -Automatic ES (8) + Viscount ES (2)
  -Automatic ES (8) + Hawk (2~3)
  -Automatic ES (8) + Hummingbird (2~3)
  
  Try to maximize Automatic enchant scroll if you don't have Chinese Dragon/Languhiris gears
  
  
  My experiences with below dual gun max damage:
  
  -Below 300 max : Extremely difficult to mainly use dual guns with 300 max or below. I've switched my talent from Dual Guns to Lance until I had some base stats.
  
  -400 to 500 max : Still difficult to mainly use dual guns, but was manageable with lance/gun combo.
  
  -500 to 600 max : Realized that Dual Guns have high potential for killing numerous mobs. Starting from this point, I mainly used Dual Guns and use Lance as a secondary and started working on gunner gears.
  
  -600 to 700 max : OHKO Tara Shadow Mission Hardmode. Elite was still a struggle but generally had no trouble using Dual Guns on higher-level dungeons/missions/MA Tourneys.
  
  -700 to 800 max : Started utilizing Dual Guns with other talents (Puppet/Archery/Ninja). Was able to solo Shadow Wizard Elite within 15min. MA solo runs were usually 8min to 10min.
  
  
  My Dual Guns Stats:
  
  [SPOILER="My Dual Guns Stats"]
  

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• ironwoman wrote on 2014-10-28 21:58
  Viscount/Hawk?
  
  I don't see it listed, but I'm pretty sure you'd agree that those two enchants are also excellent for gunner, as well as hybriding in general.
  
  A usual set up I see (I'm planning to do this too) is CD helmet + Languhiris Chaser Armor + Viscount boots.
  
  Either way, yay, gunner guide!
• aznman08 wrote on 2014-10-29 00:14
  I guess my question is why put 67th floor on guns other than being one of the highest (if not the highest) +max dmg increasing enchants available?
  
  Seems like it would be underutilizing this enchant since it also gives +3 piercing level but only on lances/bhafel slayer.
  
  Other than that appreciate the guide.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-10-29 00:48

  Quote from aznman08;1252389:

  I guess my question is why put 67th floor on guns other than being one of the highest (if not the highest) +max dmg increasing enchants available?
  
  Seems like it would be underutilizing this enchant since it also gives +3 piercing level but only on lances/bhafel slayer.
  
  Other than that appreciate the guide.

  
  
  The enchant is good enough without piercing, and if you're going to use the gun just for Wotg, repair cost doesn't matter.
  
  I should also add that Fierce is a great enchant for Taunes, as usual Taunes will have low balance. Even with capped dex, you wouldn't be able to reach 80 balance without that enchant sometimes.
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-10-29 04:38

  Quote from ironwoman;1252371:

  Viscount/Hawk?
  
  I don't see it listed, but I'm pretty sure you'd agree that those two enchants are also excellent for gunner, as well as hybriding in general.
  
  A usual set up I see (I'm planning to do this too) is CD helmet + Languhiris Chaser Armor + Viscount boots.
  
  Either way, yay, gunner guide!

  
  
  Just updated attack speed set & enchant scrolls, thanks for reminding me
  
  
  

  Quote from aznman08;1252389:

  I guess my question is why put 67th floor on guns other than being one of the highest (if not the highest) +max dmg increasing enchants available?
  
  Seems like it would be underutilizing this enchant since it also gives +3 piercing level but only on lances/bhafel slayer.
  
  Other than that appreciate the guide.

  
  
  I'm glad you like this guide! And yes, 67th would be so much better off on lance/slayer, but some people will pay extra price for some extra damage that they can benefit.
• brokenmouse wrote on 2014-10-29 07:09
  Awesome guide! I especially like the part about the upgrade paths of the guns. It's always a hard decision (I haven't decided which upgrade path to use for my dowras, but I'm liking your choice a lot xD). Also, don't forget about the durability when using WotG!
  
  Edit: You can also add the different types of bullets to this guide if it helps.
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-10-29 08:28

  Quote from brokenmouse;1252419:

  Awesome guide! I especially like the part about the upgrade paths of the guns. It's always a hard decision (I haven't decided which upgrade path to use for my dowras, but I'm liking your choice a lot xD). Also, don't forget about the durability when using WotG!
  
  Edit: You can also add the different types of bullets to this guide if it helps.

  
  
  Glad to hear that you like the part about upgrade paths. It IS a hard decision to make when you upgrade your dual guns and I'm just giving necessary information that can be beneficial for others. I've just updated types of bullets as well (thanks again for reminding me).
• Oberynn wrote on 2014-10-30 18:39

  Quote from k1nsoo;1252293:

  
  Flash Launcher
  -Has two-hand smash bonus(!!) At rank 1, it does 960% (800%*1.2)

  
  
  Not sure if there's something I'm overlooking but from testing on raccoons and regardless of which gun, I always do exactly the same damage I should be doing according to the skill window. That is, no 2h bonus that I can see.
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-10-30 21:32

  Quote from Oberynn;1252563:

  Not sure if there's something I'm overlooking but from testing on raccoons and regardless of which gun, I always do exactly the same damage I should be doing according to the skill window. That is, no 2h bonus that I can see.

  
  
  I'll take a look at this, my source was from here:
  [SPOILER="flashlauncher"]
  https://mirror.enha.kr/wiki/%ED%81%AC%EB%A1%9C%EC%8A%A4%20%EB%B2%84%EC%8A%A4%ED%84%B0[/SPOILER]
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-10-30 22:15

  Quote from k1nsoo;1252293:

  -Spam ESC button for faster animation time

  
  
  Actually no, that's not what happens. What happen is that it cancels the animation entirely, letting you move out of the skill.
  
  

  Quote from k1nsoo;1252293:

  Flash Launcher
  -Has two-hand smash bonus(!!) At rank 1, it does 960% (800%*1.2)

  
  
  Uh... Isn't that the result of Flash Launcher Master title...?
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-10-30 22:29

  Quote from Darkboy132;1252587:

  Actually no, that's not what happens. What happen is that it cancels the animation entirely, letting you move out of the skill.
  
  
  
  Uh... Isn't that the result of Flash Launcher Master title...?

  
  
  -Spam ESC button for faster animation time > which is why you do it to cancel delays? I'm not too sure what you are trying to say
  
  -Still working on flash launcher 2hand bonus
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-10-30 22:41

  Quote from k1nsoo;1252589:

  -Spam ESC button for faster animation time > which is why you do it to cancel delays? I'm not too sure what you are trying to say

  
  
  How is there "faster animation" time if the animation is nonexistent, ie cancelled?
  
  Another thing, you can't ESC cancel Flash Launcher.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-10-31 01:47

  Quote from Darkboy132;1252592:

  How is there "faster animation" time if the animation is nonexistent, ie cancelled?
  
  Another thing, you can't ESC cancel Flash Launcher.

  
  
  Actually, yes you can.
  
  And also, the 20% damage bonus is from the master title, I think you derped while looking at the page, because the page says this too.