Mabinogi Renovations Video

• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-01-08 21:13
  Magic is next up for an overhaul.
  
  I would expect the second and third legs of the update to afford unique advantages to Elves.
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-01-08 21:15

  Quote from Kaeporo;1260365:

  Magic is next up for an overhaul.
  
  I would expect the second and third legs of the update to afford unique advantages to Elves.

  
  
  If it makes you feel better, they did say that they will likely do something with archery.
• Kelvas wrote on 2015-01-08 21:54

  Quote from Kaeporo;1260365:

  Magic is next up for an overhaul.
  
  I would expect the second and third legs of the update to afford unique advantages to Elves.

  
  
  Magic? Awesome! Waiting on that adv lighting spell, hopefully won't be another meteor strike. Yay for all the excess int, and elves will probably be somewhat stronger in magic.
  
  Hopefully, they'll do something about a specialized hailstorm reforge being worse than the matk reforge.
  [S]LF>Way to become elf, screw my already crappy gunner damage, all hail magic.[/S]
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-08 22:06

  Quote from Kaeporo;1260365:

  Magic is next up for an overhaul.

  
  
  Didn't they already overhaul Magic a couple times?
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-01-08 22:07

  Quote from Darkboy132;1260376:

  Didn't they already overhaul Magic a couple times?

  
  
  If by overhaul, making blaze, firebolt, and ice spear the only things good isn't much.
• Bunny wrote on 2015-01-08 22:26

  Quote from Kapra;1260264:

  Rather than making Elves more viable in a skillset than humans, I'd rather they revamp archery for both races, and add more elf-only dex/int from existing and maybe new skills. Cases where like, if humans rank the skill they get 5 dex, but elves would get 12. I think stat gap is the real issue when it comes to racial imbalance, that and they'll probably do Str+HP before they do Dex+Int.

  
  
  [FONT="Arial"]You know what they should do? They should make all races have the same stat cap and skillsets available, and have the purpose of races be solely for aesthetics.
  
  (This is a joke)[/FONT]
• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-01-08 22:41

  Quote from ironwoman;1260377:

  If by overhaul, making blaze, firebolt, and ice spear the only things good isn't much.

  
  
  Thunder became much more useful with the advent of Snap Cast. Shockwave was also dramatically improved. Hail Storm received a nice damage boost as well. A quality magic renewal at this stage would involve nerfing Firebolt and Blaze while buffing Fireball, Meteor Strike, and possibly Fusion Bolt.
  
  

  Quote from Bunny;1260378:

  [FONT="Arial"]You know what they should do? They should make all races have the same stat cap and skillsets available, and have the purpose of races be solely for aesthetics.
  
  (This is a joke)[/FONT]

  
  
  That's taking the lazy way out. Bioware, a competent developer, released 47 classes for Mass Effect 3's multiplayer component and effortlessly balanced the game. How did they manage such a feat? Take a look at their weekly change log.
  
  http://forum.bioware.com/topic/264032-multiplayer-balance-changes/
  
  That is how a good developer do.
• Bunny wrote on 2015-01-08 22:51

  Quote from Kaeporo;1260379:

  That's taking the lazy way out. Bioware, a competent developer, released 47 classes for Mass Effect 3's multiplayer component and effortlessly balanced the game. How did they manage such a feat? Take a look at their weekly change log.
  
  http://forum.bioware.com/topic/264032-multiplayer-balance-changes/
  
  That is how a good developer do.

  
  
  [FONT="Arial"]Hey now, you missed an important part of my post! :( Or at least I think you did.[/FONT]
• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-01-08 23:12

  Quote from Bunny;1260380:

  [FONT="Arial"]Hey now, you missed an important part of my post! :( Or at least I think you did.[/FONT]

  
  
  I did.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-09 00:29
  So... anything about additional melee touch-ups?
• Kapra wrote on 2015-01-09 04:01
  Yesterday I had asked Ironwoman to translate some of the interesting parts that google translate wasn't cutting it for:
  

  Quote from ironwoman:

  Q 이번에 새로 공개된 프로모션 영상에서는 전사 캐릭터인 ‘레노’를 비롯해 궁술 재능을 사용하는 캐릭터, 마법 재능을 사용하는 캐릭터가 등장합니다. 추후 개편이 이뤄질 재능을 예고하는 것인가요?
  
  From the new promotion video, besides the warrior character 'Reno', there also seem to be a character using archery and another using magic. Is this perhaps a way of telling us that there will be renovations for the said talents?
  
  앞으로 개편이 예정돼 있거나 기획 중인 것들을 예고하는 영상이 맞습니다. 마비노기는 근접전투 이외에도 초기 재능들이 많은 편이어서 이들 재능, 스킬에 대한 케어가 진행된다고 보면 좋을 것 같습니다.
  
  The video does indeed confirm a planned renovation for the said talents. Obviously, there are other primary talents besides close combat, so it's safe to say that there will be tweaks for those talents too.
  
  Q 인간을 제외한 종족은 이번 업데이트에 불만을 갖는 일이 많아 보입니다. 자이언트는 양손 둔기, 양손 도끼가 신규 무기를 통해 전 종족 공용이 된 점에서, 엘프는 듀얼 웨펀 마스터리를 못 배우는 것은 물론, 근접 전투 개편으로도 엘프 전사들의 상황이 기존과 크게 달라지지 않았기 때문입니다. ‘인간 만을 위한 패치다’라는 이야기도 있을 정도인데, 다른 종족에 대한 세심한 조정 계획이 있는지 궁금합니다.
  
  It seems that non-human players were discontent with the recent update. As for Giants, two handed blunts and axes, what was before considered their unique weapons, became available to all races, and ans for Elves, not only can they not learn Dual Weapon Mastery, their position in melee didn't really change from before. Some even say that the patch was 'only for humans', so what we want to know is that, is there any planned tweak in terms of race?
  
  재능에 초점이 맞추어진 개편이었으므로, 상대적으로 소외된 종족이 당연히 존재할 수 있고, 그러한 상황에대해 인지 하고 있습니다. 이는, 의도적으로 특정 종족에 혜택을 주거나 특정 종족을 하향하기 위한 의도는 아니었음을 밝혀드립니다. 종족 자체적인 개편이나 종족간의 리밸런싱은 추후에 별도로 다루어질 수 있을 것 같습니다.
  
  The update was focused on the talent, not race. As a result, there obviously can be race that is excluded, and we're well aware of it. We just want to reiterate that the patch was not intended to give any race specific advantage and disadvantages. As for racial rebalancing, we assure you that it will happen.
  
  Q 스킬, 사용 무기로 구분됐던 종족 별 개성이 점점 옅어지고 있다는 지적이 있습니다. 나중에는 외형만 다른 같은 캐릭터가 될 것이라는 이야기도 있을 정도입니다. 앞으로 종족 별 격차를 계속 줄여나갈 계획인가요?
  
  There have been accusations that the unique traits of each race are slowly disappearing. Some even guess that at the end, all characters are basically the same with different looks. Are you still planning to decrease racial differences?
  
  엘프, 자이언트, 인간이 외형만 다른 캐릭터가 되는 것은 개발팀에서도 바라는 바가 아니기 때문에, 각 종족들의 고유한 특성과 개성들은 반드시 유지되어야 한다고 생각하고 있습니다. 다만, 레노베이션 프로젝트 하에선 불편하거나 불합리한 부분을 개선하는 의미에서의 격차는 앞으로도 계속해서 줄여나가야 한다고 보고 있고, 그러한 한도 내에서의 개편이 이어질 예정입니다. 종족 별로 좀 더 명확한, 그리고 납득하실 수 있을만한 수준의 개성을 부여하거나 강화하는 부분은 추후에 별도로 다루어질 수 있을 것 같습니다.
  
  As for the development team, the characters having all the same trait besides the looks is the last thing we want as well. In fact, we strongly think that the unique traits of each race should be kept. However, for the sake of renovation, we're trying to make discrepancies small, and in that process, more renovation will be done.

  
  
  
  
  

  Quote from Bunny;1260378:

  [FONT="Arial"]You know what they should do? They should make all races have the same stat cap and skillsets available, and have the purpose of races be solely for aesthetics.
  
  (This is a joke)[/FONT]

  
  But I actually want that though. =<
  
  
  I can't imagine what kind of changes they could actually do magic short of completely redoing magic, which I don't think is necessary for magic.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-10 19:48
  Do they say in the interview about FH's 400% damage?
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-01-11 04:14

  Quote from Darkboy132;1260688:

  Do they say in the interview about FH's 400% damage?

  
  
  No. Why do you ask?
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-11 04:53

  Quote from ironwoman;1260731:

  No. Why do you ask?

  
  
  "Q: Why the fuck is Final Hit 400% damage per hit? Are you batshit insane?!"
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-01-11 04:55

  Quote from Darkboy132;1260736:

  "Q: Why the fuck is Final Hit 400% damage per hit? Are you batshit insane?!"

  
  
  They just didn't want to make it useless as it is right now.
  
  I'm more for final hit buff than against, as it does give reason for people to dual wield now, nor do people have to rely solely on wotg for the dps.
  
  Also for a skill with longer cooldown, that sort of power should be expected.