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• Mystickskye wrote on 2015-01-31 17:51

  Quote from Brynn;1263577:

  Why isn't that person reloading? lol

  
  Armor skill Auto Reload, means you don't have to manually reload until you change bullet type.

  Quote from Aubog007;1263559:

  Kelbi bow is highly effective in groups and notnas effective solo. Slime favors group over skill.
  
  Solo players can be really great since you have total control and absolutely no lag.

  You're missing the point which is that good hunters will out-do the cheapness of the Kelbi bow. The Kelbi bow is again, simply cheap.
  
  Sometimes not even good hunters but just proper preparation. The final urgent quest boss Amatsumagatsuchi in P3rd can be defeated in under two minutes with a party of four LBG using fire rapid shot and the occasional flash bomb. The same hunter as in the dual G rank narga vid above has a video where he hunts two G rank Black Diablos by himself and completes the hunt in little over 7 minutes spending the whole hunt under the effects of Felyne Heroics which means he's at 10 health or less.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-01-31 22:20

  Quote from Mystickskye;1263604:

  Armor skill Auto Reload, means you don't have to manually reload until you change bullet type.You're missing the point which is that good hunters will out-do the cheapness of the Kelbi bow. The Kelbi bow is again, simply cheap.
  
  Sometimes not even good hunters but just proper preparation. The final urgent quest boss Amatsumagatsuchi in P3rd can be defeated in under two minutes with a party of four LBG using fire rapid shot and the occasional flash bomb. The same hunter as in the dual G rank narga vid above has a video where he hunts two G rank Black Diablos by himself and completes the hunt in little over 7 minutes spending the whole hunt under the effects of Felyne Heroics which means he's at 10 health or less.

  
  
  You make it sound like i don't know these things.
  And you missed my point, because the reason why i said solo is because you could never consistently do heroics in a group unless you specifically ask people to enter the boss zone first. God forbid having 4 people with heroics.
  
  Solo is designed for total control. Group is for tactics or spam, which you so pointed out already.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-01-31 22:29

  Quote from Mystickskye;1263604:

  You're missing the point
  

  
  
  I got the point and the rest of your post proved my point.
  
  Group. Spam
  Solo. Total control (can't do heroics with a group, unless you get really lucky (or tell everyone to shoo)).
• Hatsunechan wrote on 2015-02-01 01:37
  Why does it matter when it's pretty easy to break endgame MH by spamming traps and flash bombs between 4 players? It's been like that every game.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-02-01 02:02

  Quote from Hatsunechan;1263650:

  Why does it matter when it's pretty easy to break endgame MH by spamming traps and flash bombs between 4 players? It's been like that every game.

  
  
  ^ exactly. Although i am usually the lazy one who forgets these things.
• Mystickskye wrote on 2015-02-01 04:41

  Quote from Aubog007;1263637:

  I got the point and the rest of your post proved my point.
  
  Group. Spam
  Solo. Total control (can't do heroics with a group, unless you get really lucky (or tell everyone to shoo)).

  If you spam in a group chances are you're not a very good hunter or you're lazy. Even for the example of Amatsumagatsuchi in under 2 minutes you can't just unload willy nilly, you need to know what you're doing, get the right hitzones, flash effectively etc.

  Quote from Hatsunechan;1263650:

  Why does it matter when it's pretty easy to break endgame MH by spamming traps and flash bombs between 4 players? It's been like that every game.

  It matters because there's still a world of difference/efficiency between being cheap and then actual good hunting regardless of party size. This is more important than ever in 4U with things like extreme monsters (they aren't as susceptible to stagger, flash, trap, KO, status etc, even Mind's Eye/Purple sharpness weapons will bounce off many hitzones, extreme monsters can be purified to normal state temporarily) and the higher end of 4U is supposed to be harder than any monhun before it.
  
  EDIT: Seems Kelbi bow has been nerfed very heavily for 4U.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-02-01 07:26

  Quote from Mystickskye;1263671:

  If you spam in a group chances are you're not a very good hunter or you're lazy. Even for the example of Amatsumagatsuchi in under 2 minutes you can't just unload willy nilly, you need to know what you're doing, get the right hitzones, flash effectively etc.It matters because there's still a world of difference/efficiency between being cheap and then actual good hunting regardless of party size. This is more important than ever in 4U with things like extreme monsters (they aren't as susceptible to stagger, flash, trap, KO, status etc, even Mind's Eye/Purple sharpness weapons will bounce off many hitzones, extreme monsters can be purified to normal state temporarily) and the higher end of 4U is supposed to be harder than any monhun before it.
  
  EDIT: Seems Kelbi bow has been nerfed very heavily for 4U.

  
  
  Challenges!
  There has never been a mission i could not complete.
  
  I'll never forget that lance nargacuga training mission in MHF2.
  
  Also i had a previous message and accidentally deleted it, but for group i had tactics/spam down. Mainly together.
  Best example is Kushala daora and hammer spam, 2 para hammers + 2 other hammers = lolded
• Brynn wrote on 2015-02-01 16:26
  12 more days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-02-01 21:25

  Quote from Brynn;1263711:

  12 more days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  
  
  I took off for a week, hopefully I'll be able to enjoy this.
• Hatsunechan wrote on 2015-02-02 05:15

  Quote from Aubog007;1263687:

  Challenges!
  There has never been a mission i could not complete.
  
  I'll never forget that lance nargacuga training mission in MHF2.
  
  Also i had a previous message and accidentally deleted it, but for group i had tactics/spam down. Mainly together.
  Best example is Kushala daora and hammer spam, 2 para hammers + 2 other hammers = lolded

  
  
  Why would you use a hammer for para anyways? That's not the most efficient way at all.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-02-02 06:05

  Quote from Hatsunechan;1263785:

  Why would you use a hammer for para anyways? That's not the most efficient way at all.

  
  
  Kushala Daora was susceptible to Stun and Para, when one status effect took place, the other one would build up and take place after the other one went away, due to how long it lasted on him, well. Solves the rest.
  
  One of them lasted for 30 seconds, 30 seconds of pure beatdown? Yeah.
  
  Edit: Paralysis lasted for 20 seconds, stun i can't find.
  
  Keep in mind, hammers were the only one that could stun at that time, i think
• Hatsunechan wrote on 2015-02-02 06:49

  Quote from Aubog007;1263787:

  Kushala Daora was susceptible to Stun and Para, when one status effect took place, the other one would build up and take place after the other one went away, due to how long it lasted on him, well. Solves the rest.
  
  One of them lasted for 30 seconds, 30 seconds of pure beatdown? Yeah.
  
  Edit: Paralysis lasted for 20 seconds, stun i can't find.
  
  Keep in mind, hammers were the only one that could stun at that time, i think

  
  
  I meant the hammers are the worst weapon for applying status. Every other type of weapon has more hits so its faster. Hammers weren't the only weapon with para for sure.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-02-02 08:08

  Quote from Hatsunechan;1263792:

  I meant the hammers are the worst weapon for applying status. Every other type of weapon has more hits so its faster. Hammers weren't the only weapon with para for sure.

  
  
  Only one that could apply both though. It was something that worked exceedingly well for that particular monster.
  
  Also the spin move was much better at applying statuses in that particular game than future ones.
  Spin, para it, beat the ever loving shit out of it. Repeat a bit.
• Hatsunechan wrote on 2015-02-02 18:33

  Quote from Aubog007;1263801:

  Only one that could apply both though. It was something that worked exceedingly well for that particular monster.
  
  Also the spin move was much better at applying statuses in that particular game than future ones.
  Spin, para it, beat the ever loving shit out of it. Repeat a bit.

  Kush would almost never let you spam spin attack on it lol.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-02-02 23:09

  Quote from Hatsunechan;1263834:

  Kush would almost never let you spam spin attack on it lol.

  
  Worked fine for me.