Mari destroys Very Hard Girgashiy

• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-03-20 14:25

  Quote from Zeo;1268431:

  Exactly, this person get it.
  
  No fence with some of you guys, but I don't really get some of you guys complaining about Mabinogi right now. If you guys really wanted a challenge, then maybe Mabi isn't for you.

  
  
  You are quite right there and most people I believe have already moved on or started playing less than they did in the past. Personally I find something like this to be far too stressful and challenging to bother with. But I'm more invested in other games atm anyways like Phoenix Wright and Runescape.
• Zeo wrote on 2015-03-20 15:02

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1268432:

  You are quite right there and most people I believe have already moved on or started playing less than they did in the past. Personally I find something like this to be far too stressful and challenging to bother with.

  
  
  Heh, we quite have a mind-alike there... I do like Girgashiy raid, but like you said, it's quite stressful and challenging for me because it's actuLly difficult to find dedicated players to do the dailies and weeklies with. It's quite a shame too because the crusader skills are actually very useful outside the raid run but I can't get them high enough to be useful outside the raid run without finding dedicated players.
  
  And chances are... Some of the 'dedicated' players will end up running around like some headless chicken. ;<
• Bunny wrote on 2015-03-20 17:11

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1268432:

  But I'm more invested in other games atm anyways like Phoenix Wright and Runescape.

  
  
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• M wrote on 2015-03-20 17:14
  As much discussion as there is about this, I can't help but feel like this belongs in the multimedia section. /moved
• DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-03-21 01:11

  Quote from Zeo;1268431:

  Exactly, this person get it.
  
  No fence with some of you guys, but I don't really get some of you guys complaining about Mabinogi right now. If you guys really wanted a challenge, then maybe Mabi isn't for you.

  
  
  See now, If I took over Mabi (and I realllllly want to at this point) for people like you, I'd split the game into two main servers, and let original Nexon take care of that server.Because I kind of stopped caring for some high-leveled opinions.I can reach beginner and mid easy, but high is eehhh
• Tyskiyomy wrote on 2015-03-21 03:15

  Quote from DefinitelyNotTwin;1268474:

  See now, If I took over Mabi (and I realllllly want to at this point) for people like you, I'd split the game into two main servers, and let original Nexon take care of that server.Because I kind of stopped caring for some high-leveled opinions.I can reach beginner and mid easy, but high is eehhh

  
  
  This game is not salvageable according to some invisible majority, people should just quit and let it die instead of trying to find little ways they can imagine how it one could perfect this game; like a utopia, it won't work. Let it die and let us enjoy it as it is :(
  Downhill or not I like this game a lot, just i'm invested with the upcoming vindy update until magic renovation here :>
• DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-03-21 04:54

  Quote from Tyskiyomy;1268489:

  This game is not salvageable according to some invisible majority, people should just quit and let it die instead of trying to find little ways they can imagine how it one could perfect this game; like a utopia, it won't work. Let it die and let us enjoy it as it is :(
  Downhill or not I like this game a lot, just i'm invested with the upcoming vindy update until magic renovation here :>

  
  
  No thanks o3o If I was the type of person to give up just because someone said no,no matter the amount of people said I couldn't, I wouldn't have done a lot of things XD
  
  Edit:/ Oh yea, you can't enjoy Mabi if it dies, because it'd be shutdown
• Zeo wrote on 2015-03-21 11:21

  Quote from DefinitelyNotTwin;1268474:

  See now, If I took over Mabi (and I realllllly want to at this point) for people like you, I'd split the game into two main servers, and let original Nexon take care of that server.Because I kind of stopped caring for some high-leveled opinions.I can reach beginner and mid easy, but high is eehhh

  
  
  I'm not sure if I get what you're trying to say...
  
  

  Quote from Tyskiyomy;1268489:

  This game is not salvageable according to some invisible majority, people should just quit and let it die instead of trying to find little ways they can imagine how it one could perfect this game; like a utopia, it won't work. Let it die and let us enjoy it as it is :(
  Downhill or not I like this game a lot, just i'm invested with the upcoming vindy update until magic renovation here :>

  
  
  Lot of players are already invested into Mabinogi, and most of them will continue to do so, so Mabinogi isn't going to die out anytime soon, lol. To be honest, I'm happy with Mabinogi the way it is now, and many of the suggested changes by players for Mabinogi isn't going to do any good, so I'm quite glad they're not in charge of Mabinogi...
• Tyskiyomy wrote on 2015-03-21 15:02

  Quote from Zeo;1268514:

  I'm not sure if I get what you're trying to say...
  
  
  
  Lot of players are already invested into Mabinogi, and most of them will continue to do so, so Mabinogi isn't going to die out anytime soon, lol. To be honest, I'm happy with Mabinogi the way it is now, and many of the suggested changes by players for Mabinogi isn't going to do any good, so I'm quite glad they're not in charge of Mabinogi...

  
  
  Don't worry I wasn't suggesting mabi should die I just worded my post weird for a reason, but you kind of get it.
  
  :llama_stroke2:
• Zyrus wrote on 2015-03-21 15:16

  Quote from M;1268443:

  As much discussion as there is about this, I can't help but feel like this belongs in the multimedia section. /moved

  
  
  I disagree that this needs to be in multimedia section. This was an example of how to do something in the game and then the discussion of its mechanisms and the ability to repeat this process. I think being in this section you'll notice the discussion will soon cease to exist as the talk section gets many more views. I myself missed it and only saw it because the last comment on this section happened to be on this thread. If someone else would have posted in multimedia in the time since I logged I would have never seen this thread again since I do not generally come to this section.
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  The point that I was trying to make is that we(Alexina) should start working towards this goal. Yes we don't have regulars to do it but if they have a goal in mind people will build towards it. Just like MA made 420 blaze popular to get reforges on blaze getting the gear and skills for this could become a priority.
  
  
  It might take a few months since no one on Alexina really has done this but I think we can.
  
  Keys are R1 Shield, r1 judgement blade with lv 15 christening blades+r15 binding needle+ any breaking lies you can get, 2-3 r1 party healers, grandmaster bard + bard buff enchants + demonic gloomy sunday, couple fighters use knuckles for debuff, couple bone dragons, everyone whose using judgement blade wears max damage sets and r6 level 9+ piercing lances.
• Oberynn wrote on 2015-03-21 15:49
  ^The problem is priorities and difference in server demographics.
  
  Mari has been around longer and has older active players who have nothing else to spend AP/time on so are able to focus themselves on something like girgash even though it's profitability is very short term.
  
  Most active alexina players still have other skills with better ap/time/effort/equipment ratios for character development left so crusader stuff isn't even in the back of their minds. Profit is also not a factor considering you can sell things for 50~100m in Alexina without having to step foot in a mission, and none of the rewards the mission gives are "endgame" as to provide incentive.
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-03-23 00:15

  Quote from Oberynn;1268524:

  ^The problem is priorities and difference in server demographics.
  
  Mari has been around longer and has older active players who have nothing else to spend AP/time on so are able to focus themselves on something like girgash even though it's profitability is very short term.
  
  Most active alexina players still have other skills with better ap/time/effort/equipment ratios for character development left so crusader stuff isn't even in the back of their minds. Profit is also not a factor considering you can sell things for 50~100m in Alexina without having to step foot in a mission, and none of the rewards the mission gives are "endgame" as to provide incentive.

  
  
  This is why we don't see hard core Girgashiy groups in Alexina.
  
  Even with my stats, if I actually took time to get level 15 Christening blades, and got few more people with similar situation, we could easily recreate the situation in the video. The problem is that we don't really see the need to as the returns from the missions is pretty diminishing.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-03-23 01:15

  Quote from Zyrus;1268521:

  I disagree that this needs to be in multimedia section. This was an example of how to do something in the game and then the discussion of its mechanisms and the ability to repeat this process. I think being in this section you'll notice the discussion will soon cease to exist as the talk section gets many more views. I myself missed it and only saw it because the last comment on this section happened to be on this thread. If someone else would have posted in multimedia in the time since I logged I would have never seen this thread again since I do not generally come to this section.

  
  
  I have to agree with Zyrus. The point of this is not to showcase Girgashy's downfall, but to discuss VH's mechanisms and be able to replicate this victory for all severs.
• Zeo wrote on 2015-03-26 07:09
  The video made VHM Girgashiy raid looked easy but it isn't, actually...
  
  According to Jiuhin...
  
  Girgashiy souls often, and he heals 4% per soul, and he does poison damage at a much faster tick unlike hard version.
  
  Hard version ticks at 1 second each up to 6 times, totaling 6 seconds, while very hard version tick at 0.75 second each and up to 6 times, totaling 4.5 seconds, and the damage is much more too.
  
  At 25% of his HPs left, he apparently summon four of mini version of himself with 250k HP each, so you can't really just windmill-spam Girgashiy to death, because they can run and just smack you around, which messes up the windmill-lock method.
  
  I will post more info from Jouhin soon.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-03-29 03:19

  Quote from Zeo;1269032:

  I will post more info from Jiuhin soon.

  
  
  He asked me to write a guide on the whole Girgashiy matter. I'll have it done... eventually.
  
  Preview.