Monster Hunter Stories, an RPG spin-off announced for 3DS

• Compass wrote on 2015-04-16 00:11

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  And in western countries, japan assigned it action RPG.

  
  Capcom of America labelled it as an action RPG, not Capcom of Japan nor the hunting game fanbase, the people who've actually played more than just Monster Hunter.
  
  

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  Because hunting genre for western countries is a joke

  
  No it's not. The term is becoming more and more popular as more hunting games gets localized.
  
  
  

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  This aint about what it's "officially" called in Japan.

  
  Of course not, it's what genre Monster Hunter falls in which. It's an Action game, hunting to be precise.
  Saying "but the west doesn't classify it as that!" doesn't prove anything. The western take on video game genres is opinionated, as I said above wRPG is somehow a genre, jRPG is somehow a genre, roguelike doesn't mean what it's something to mean anymore, just from the top of my head.
  
  
  

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  Because if we were to reclasssify it as hunting genre in the west, we would have to reclassify a lot of things.

  
  No, it's actually about 5-7 game series. Most of the games the fan have recognized that there's a difference and called them hunting games. Most franchise only have 1 game not including the enhanced re-release.
  
  

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  But you should know this instead of grasping at straws.

  
  Classifying a specific style of games which is the purpose of genres?
  
  
  

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  Also, no, you don't get anything "better" by leveling up in call of duty (arguable really, semantics, perks, blahblah)You level up armor and weapons which you can't do in CoD.

  
  How is it arguable? You get more equipment as you level up, you can customize the equipment you get, and perks act as an passive skill. Everything is dependent on the equipment just like MH.
  
  And upgrading equipment isn't essential for a game to become an RPG. In God of War, Tomb Raider (2013), Devil May Cry, other action-adventure games upgrading you upgrade character and/or equipment. This doesn't make them RPGs.
  
  

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  Even have pretty numbers next to the armors too..

  
  Call of Duty and Battlefield has this with weapons. And they're customizable/upgradeable.
  

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  Hell you even have companions that level up and increase stats too.

  
  This doesn't matter because it's the character's progression that matters.
  
  

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  Character progression is different than most RPGs, but it is still an RPG, compare skyrim.

  
  It's how the two games handle character progressions. It's the one thing I've been repeating, character stat progression is what makes a game an RPG.
  
  

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  One could sell all of their gear on both games and still be completely fine.

  
  Not a fair comparison. Level scaling and difficulty.
  
  

  Which you unlocked, by progression.

  
  And again, not all character progression makes a game an RPG.
• Natural Harmonia Gropius wrote on 2015-04-16 00:17
  I kinda wish they had kept to the original Monster Hunter style with graphics, but it looks good regardless.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-04-16 00:22
  Compass, your fine art of trolling impressed me
• Natural Harmonia Gropius wrote on 2015-04-16 00:27
  Since it's an RPG now, I wonder if that means they are getting rid of the typical combat system? I hope not, the action oriented combat is one of my favorite things about the series.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-04-16 00:28

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  Since it's an RPG now, I wonder if that means they are getting rid of the typical combat system? I hope not, the action oriented combat is one of my favorite things about the series.

  
  
  I think a tales style combat system would work nicely
• Natural Harmonia Gropius wrote on 2015-04-16 00:36

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  I think a tales style combat system would work nicely

  
  
  Never played that, what's it like?
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-04-16 00:42
  Errr
  
  [video=youtube;FzT0BeV14zk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzT0BeV14zk[/video]
  
  Something like this? I just randomly googled a vid
• Natural Harmonia Gropius wrote on 2015-04-16 00:50
  Oh, it doesn't look all that appealing to me. Maybe just the way it was done for that game.
• Zekkii wrote on 2015-04-16 04:56
  I remember one fight in Tales of Symphonia (not the final) was so hard that I had to help my brother by taking control of one of the CPU/secondary characters and helping him through it. Anyways, it has its charms, but I think turn-based would do better personally. Depends what kind of game they're aiming for I guess.
• Compass wrote on 2015-04-16 16:19

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  Compass, your fine art of trolling impressed me

  
  Call it whatever you want at this point, it's clear you don't know how the RPG genre works.
• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2015-04-16 17:21

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  Errr
  
  [video=youtube;FzT0BeV14zk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzT0BeV14zk[/video]
  
  Something like this? I just randomly googled a vid

  
  
  I wanna smack you for such a horrible video boggy, lol!
  
  Tales of Symphonia is okay, but the horrible quality and overuse of the the Menu in that video make it rather unappealing.
  The "Tales of" series are fairly good in general, but of course the style and gameplay don't appeal to everyone. It's basically a turn-based RPG that's not actually turn-based!
  
  I can't contribute much to the RPG vs. non-RPG discussion though, everyone is allowed to have their opinion on that. For me an RPG is just something with experience gain and levels, that makes pokemon one too.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-04-16 18:59
  I was at work snowie grabbing a random video.
  
  

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  Call it whatever you want at this point, it's clear you don't know how the RPG genre works.

  
  Clearly you don't know how the west works. But it's Ok.
  
  EDIT: I have neither time nor the patience to reason with someone who doesn't want to be reasoned with.
• Maenad wrote on 2015-04-16 19:37
  Compass just really doesn't want to be wrong at this point.
• M wrote on 2015-04-16 23:40
  Guys, we don't need to bicker about everything everyone says lol It seems like every page of this thread is salted with arguing about what is and what isn't a certain genre, what an RPG is, etc. If you guys want to debate about that, make a thread for it; this thread doesn't seem like it was meant to be a genre debate thread.
  
  Please keep the discussion on topic and civil; feel free to argue in PM's
• Compass wrote on 2015-04-16 23:54

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  Clearly you don't know how the west works. But it's Ok.

  
  As I said before the west has an opinionated views on certain genres and sub-genres, while they're not entirely wrong when it comes to RPGs specifically they're opinionated. And just because the west labels something as a specific genre doesn't mean it is. Genres are universal, not regional. if you ask anyone "Hi I'm looking for game recommendations, I want a game that is considered [genre 1] in Japan, but [genre 2] in the western market" people will be confused.
  
  You've been ignoring the points I've made to bring new ones and then bringing new points again when I discussed the ones you brought up previously.
  
  You said "They meant traditional RPG" then "Capcom of Japan considers it an Action RPG" then "The west considers it an Action RPG" you changed your answers three times which proves that you're not well informed as you want to be.
  
  Then you said that using Hunting in the west is a joke, which means that you're really not paying attention to the community. As I said before as more games get localized people are starting to label the gamed as apart of the hunting genre.
  
  Not counting what you said in this thread, it wouldn't surprise me you like the majority of the forum users here don't really pay that close to the video game industry despite enjoying video games I mean this is an fansite for a video game as opposed to a site dedicated to the video game industry and overall video game discussion like NeoGAF being a popular one. There's nothing wrong with that, but you're disagreeing with someone who researches dumb video game stuff all the damn time, mostly in the RPG genre. I'm not saying I'm always right or that I know everything, but trust me when I say Monster Hunter is not an RPG.
  
  Character progression is not an RPG mechanic anymore, so many games have some sort of character progression that it's just a standard mechanic these days. It's what type of character progression they have that makes it an RPG.
  
  
  

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  I have neither time nor the patience to reason with someone who doesn't want to be reasoned with.

  
  I never wanted to be "reasoned with" in the first place. As I said I research dumb RPG stuff all the damn time, I've played several retro RPGs, I've experienced many RPGs to know what games are considered ones. I would have posted all this if I wanted to be "reasoned with". I'm not the only one who thinks this way, there are several more people.