Synthesis: Mechanics And Tests

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Oberynn wrote on 2015-05-12 02:05

Quote from Rydian;1274593:
Bohemian

Iirc this should work, never did it myself but did hear from people using low rolls for it.
Kazusa Touma wrote on 2015-05-12 02:06

Quote from Rydian;1274593:
Kapra theorized that due to the 3in-1out being able to regenerate the same item, that it might be possible to stick in items with low set effects and get one with high set effects.

yes this is possible, but you still have enough chances of getting a bunch of junk so it ended up not being completely worth it
Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-05-12 02:24

Quote from Rydian;1274589:
But people do data mining on the wiki all the time (see the tags on item details for example, and item IDs hidden in the templates). They just seem to be paranoid lately due to the server leaks.

Why not just have a nice tea party with the wiki's staff instead of just ranting and venting?

Quote from Aubog007;1274594:
Also yeah. The wiki doesn't want to be attacked by nexon, which is why the current staff of the wiki is... questionable.

I think they would have accepted the data if Nexon didn't hound their asses from the beginning.
Rydian wrote on 2015-05-12 02:43

Quote from Darkboy132;1274602:
Why not just have a nice tea party with the wiki's staff instead of just ranting and venting?
Well, you see, they said...

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And I mentioned that I didn't agree...

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And then they removed it.

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And then they deleted the thread because they don't even want a discussion about it to exist.

[Image: http://i.imgur.com/rUefejb.jpg]

And given what other users here have said about the wiki, bringing this up again is likely to get me banned.

And they don't want it, so here you go, mabination can have it.
Roflorz wrote on 2015-05-12 02:57

Quote from Osayidan;1274574:
He's testing by trial and error wasting his in-game gold and recording what happens.

He's not; he's using old G13 server data that was leaked. He even states so in his OP.

Unfortunately the data I'm working off of is from G13

pastie.org/10183643 Here's part of the synthesis database (careful, these are illegal files!).

Besides, how would he be able to get such accurate data through trial and error?

So sad, "Roflz" was already used. Probably by Rydian.
Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-05-12 03:04

Quote from Rydian;1274605:
And given what other users here have said about the wiki, bringing this up again is likely to get me banned.

And they don't want it, so here you go, mabination can have it.

https://webchat.ppirc.net/?channels=mabinogi
Slayerj wrote on 2015-05-12 03:04

How about we make a new section of the forums that only mods can post in that has major information posted in it, such as this? We could just call it the wiki section or something. Beats the true wiki if they're getting hounded by NX.
Kapra wrote on 2015-05-12 04:58

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They didn't want it because some shit about data mining and server leaking stuff, then some shit about Nexon talking to them not to mention anything about data mining blah blah blah blah blah blah. They would probably have accepted it if they weren't held back.

Wiki doesn't want valuable data? Blame Nexon, 'nuff said.

I recall the wiki refusing information on Ninja skills because Ninja skills are JP content and of course there is no way for NA to get them. And even if it was from KR and we are 100% sure getting the content, we don't want any future content on the wiki. Was that Nexon saying that too? I recall it being members of the wiki staff. (Not all of the staff but most. If it was all, then there wouldn't be any foreign content on the wiki now.)
Osayidan wrote on 2015-05-12 11:41

Quote from Slayerj;1274612:
How about we make a new section of the forums that only mods can post in that has major information posted in it, such as this? We could just call it the wiki section or something. Beats the true wiki if they're getting hounded by NX.

I think a data section might be a good idea. Though it would be more like the guides section, where anyone can post useful data, be it from simple observation to extensive data mining and/or testing. If the wiki doesn't want it then there may as well be a place to put it for everyone to access it easily.
Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-05-12 12:20

Quote from Osayidan;1274649:
I think a data section might be a good idea. Though it would be more like the guides section, where anyone can post useful data, be it from simple observation to extensive data mining and/or testing. If the wiki doesn't want it then there may as well be a place to put it for everyone to access it easily.

So glad we have some who doesn't care about Nexon and is all about sharing information like we are :D. Seriously, screw Nexon, they already hate this site anyways so may as well mine all the data!
Oberynn wrote on 2015-05-12 16:32

Quote from Osayidan;1274649:
I think a data section might be a good idea. Though it would be more like the guides section, where anyone can post useful data, be it from simple observation to extensive data mining and/or testing. If the wiki doesn't want it then there may as well be a place to put it for everyone to access it easily.

This would be great, would serve as a sandbox for all those little tidbits of information people find either via data mining or foreign sources that the wiki doesn't want and aren't significant enough to warrant a full thread in talk forums.
Citrusjuice wrote on 2015-05-12 16:59

so do you just use the price mods give you to determine values or what o.o
Deletion wrote on 2015-05-12 17:28

Well, I bought cooking pots from Walter for 23,000 G each and tried 10 synthesis attempts.
4 Round Shields
1 Tikka Shield
2 Finest Fabrics
1 Finest Leather
1 Fine Fabric
1 Small Gem

Thought the shield list would give the specified over 20,000 G items, but it gave the 4,000 G ones.
Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2015-05-12 17:53
I don't know if the Synthesis system has been changed much over the years, but back in the day I used a recipe that had a really high chance of getting me Dirks, Executioner's Swords, War Swords, Dragon Blades and Dustin Silver Knight Swords.

This was only valid before a certain Alchemy Crystal revamp changed the value and function of Int. Magic Crystals.

The recipe would look like this:
- Ice Spear Crystal x 50
- Ice Spear Crystal x 50
- Gathering Knife
- Gathering Knife
Those old Ice Spear Crystals (100) would've had a total value of 15,000G per stack of 50. The Gathering Knives were bought from the Royal Supply Guard behind Andras who sells them for 80G each. That put the total input of my items at 30,160G.

I once made 4 of the above mentioned items within 10 attempts of this recipe.
Any idea how or why this could have worked and if it might still be possible if we had something of similar value to replace the Ice Crystals with?
Citrusjuice wrote on 2015-05-12 20:47

Im not sure if i dont understand this or im doing it wrong...

Trying to go for the 60k robe list i tried:
Jabu-shinseon's Imperial Robe + Nathane Snow Mountain Coat + wizard suit for men = Jabu-shinseon's Imperial Robe

Lacard's Layered Muffler Robe + Lacard's Layered Muffler Robe + Coco Rabbit Robe = Robe...

:fail3:

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