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Rydian wrote on 2015-06-01 06:18
Quick somebody PvP me so I can get a gif of elf-bashing.
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Blissfulkill wrote on 2015-06-01 12:03
Quote from Twin;1276959:
Darker skin tones , Dual-Wielding, Lance, Final Hit, Arrow Revolver and for meh personally, Paladin. Off the top of my head anyways.
Arrow Revolver is not my thing as an archer. Waste of arrows of you ask me. I mean...virtually every archer I come across magnums anything that can't be one or 2 hits.
Elf melee was supposed to be meh, so you don't see a lot of complaints for it.
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Bunny wrote on 2015-06-01 17:15
Quote from Blissfulkill;1277055:
Arrow Revolver is not my thing as an archer. Waste of arrows of you ask me. I mean...virtually every archer I come across magnums anything that can't be one or 2 hits.
Elf melee was supposed to be meh, so you don't see a lot of complaints for it.
Arrow Revolver is more of an emergency skill or used to finish off mobs in deadly. Or for lazy people.
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Twin wrote on 2015-06-01 20:52
Quote from Blissfulkill;1277055:
Arrow Revolver is not my thing as an archer. Waste of arrows of you ask me. I mean...virtually every archer I come across magnums anything that can't be one or 2 hits.
Elf melee was supposed to be meh, so you don't see a lot of complaints for it.
Yea, I'm not doing this.
Quote from Bunny;1277071:
Arrow Revolver is more of an emergency skill or used to finish off mobs in deadly. Or for lazy people.
Or Archers who want to keep up with Gunners.
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KingFintchz wrote on 2015-06-02 00:21
Quote from Twin;1277081:
Yea, I'm not doing this.
Or Archers who want to keep up with Gunners.
Maybe it's just because I'm a dumb giant, but I feel like magnum shot spam would better keep up with AR in terms of DPS. Even if your AR is critting like 6k->7k->8k->9k->10ks (think thats the most I've seen... last time I saw someone use AR was thousands of levels ago)(granted you even make all of the shots, unless you take the time to aim which defeats the speed factor in the first place), its far off from keeping up with gunner at all. idk this is just based off what I've seen and my experience with gunner.
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Bunny wrote on 2015-06-02 01:05
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Or Archers who want to keep up with Gunners.
Not in the slightest, but I get what you're saying. AR can never "catch up" to bullets.
Also @above, AR is not used for major DPS. It should not be compared with mag.
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Kaeporo wrote on 2015-06-02 02:50
Quote from Bunny;1277104:
Not in the slightest, but I get what you're saying. AR can never "catch up" to bullets.
Also @above, AR is not used for major DPS. It should not be compared with mag.
Magnum Shot is viable but largely obsolete as far as DPS is concerned. The only stuff that needs that sort of firepower is immune to elemental reforges and accuracy will kick your ass. Urgent Shot would only hinder your damage output at point-blank and long-range Magnum Shot is far too slow/accurate to compete with the host of options that Humans and Giants can access. It was great back in the day before everything hit like a damn truck.
Arrow Revolver at least retains some niche use as a faster/longer range method of picking off weak/weakened mobs but it's still lackluster.
Archery is largely obsolete and the archery renovation doesn't change its standing whatsoever.
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Elves are pretty bad at melee. If you have a new character you should start over as a Human. If you have an older, developed character it's probably better to focus on the stuff that Elves aren't inherently awful at (like magic). That'll save you from dumping time/effort into stuff like the Life Exploration Rod which has mediocre payout.
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Citrusjuice wrote on 2015-06-02 03:22
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this thing? costs me an arm to repair... mainly because im poor af on this server. :gloom3:
it costs more than repairing a beam (thanks to enchant, imagine x5 with 67th floor), not special upgradeable and has 12 dur... is it really worth it lol
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Bunny wrote on 2015-06-02 03:23
Quote from Kaeporo;1277113:
Magnum Shot is viable but largely obsolete as far as DPS is concerned. The only stuff that needs that sort of firepower is immune to elemental reforges and accuracy will kick your ass. Urgent Shot would only hinder your damage output at point-blank and long-range Magnum Shot is far too slow/accurate to compete with the host of options that Humans and Giants can access. It was great back in the day before everything hit like a damn truck.
Arrow Revolver at least retains some niche use as a faster/longer range method of picking off weak/weakened mobs but it's still lackluster.
Archery is largely obsolete and the archery renovation doesn't change its standing whatsoever.
True, unfortunately.. which is why I feel bad when new players decide to invest in archery. On the brighter side, ER reforged bows will be
great for the alban dungeon, so it won't be completely lame there. I'm kind of sad about elemental reforges being useless in future content, but ER is nice.
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Entia wrote on 2015-06-02 06:41
Quote from Citrusjuice;1277114:
this thing? costs me an arm to repair... mainly because im poor af on this server. :gloom3:
it costs more than repairing a beam (thanks to enchant, imagine x5 with 67th floor), not special upgradeable and has 12 dur... is it really worth it lol
Gathering knives from Ferghus are a cheap alternative if you want maximum shekel efficiency they're 1g to repair at him and 50g to buy from him and can bash, but the main attraction of the fishing rod is it can get level 6 elemental where as beam is limited to 3.
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larsopher wrote on 2015-06-20 17:19
Even with 67th floor + ele 6 on the fishing rod, wouldn't it still be better as an elf to just use CRKS or a Pilgrim Sword (Hell even a dagger) with just ele 3 with no enchants?
I'm factoring in that the CRKS/Prilgrims can be special upgraded and has a faster bashing speed ofc...
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Entia wrote on 2015-06-21 01:10
Rod double bashes like CRK since it's normal speed, here's my messy notes about ele3 r6 crk vs ele6 no spec rod dmg though, crk falls behind quite a bit because the ele cap on 1h. Assumed max roll on all the enchants, didnt bother adding in max from armor hat etc prob missing possible str from totem etc but it's a rough idea.
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Rynn wrote on 2015-06-21 01:18
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Rod double bashes like CRK since it's normal speed
CRK is Fast speed, not normal however, so it can double bash faster.
Weapon speed is not just for determining how easy it is to double bash.
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Entia wrote on 2015-06-21 01:53
I believe it was 70 seconds for 100 bashes with fastest and 75 seconds with normal? The difference is extremely negligible though in all honesty, and considering the damage gap I don't believe crk would be able to compare to rod in dps even if it hits slightly faster.
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Rynn wrote on 2015-06-21 02:00
It's around 7% more sustained damage output, but yeah it's not enough. Depending on latency it might be more, less or no difference at all however.