Auction should get a huge update to help with gold sink... It was a good idea maybe in G10 to G12 but it pretty much became useless after.
I was pretty shocked by how many people actually liked the browsing portion of the Mabinogi market. It still boggles my mind honestly as I find it so counter productive and inefficient. Granted I have found myself buying something I didn't know I wanted from casually browsing so it probably does have some merit to it that I won't find in Runescape/GW2. However, that's because those 2 games are oriented towards the scale of items that are combat/crafting based and not fashion based.
So I guess that's where Mabinogi differs in that aspect is the massive fashionogi side of the equation. There's also the debate on gold sinks. The most common arguments I noted on the Nexon forums were the following:
1) Not enough gold sinks
2) Housing needs to remain as a service for Nexon to make money. This itself is a stupid argument, there's other ways to increase value of service than punishing players trying to sell stuff
3) People want to browse shops and do impulse buying
I feel like they should allow you to search for personal shop items through the housing board too. If you can do it for 2 of the 3, why not do it for all? Also, it would be awesome if they just integrated all items and methods of selling into the housing board search list and just added a column saying wheter its being sold in a house, kiosk, or shop.
Searching each and every shop for a single item you want is pointless and unnecessary, especially considering they have a board where you can search for items that are being sold through the other methods.
I always just do a pet search of player shops for items I'm looking for...
I was pretty shocked by how many people actually liked the browsing portion of the Mabinogi market. It still boggles my mind honestly as I find it so counter productive and inefficient. Granted I have found myself buying something I didn't know I wanted from casually browsing so it probably does have some merit to it that I won't find in Runescape/GW2. However, that's because those 2 games are oriented towards the scale of items that are combat/crafting based and not fashion based.
So I guess that's where Mabinogi differs in that aspect is the massive fashionogi side of the equation. There's also the debate on gold sinks. The most common arguments I noted on the Nexon forums were the following:
1) Not enough gold sinks
2) Housing needs to remain as a service for Nexon to make money. This itself is a stupid argument, there's other ways to increase value of service than punishing players trying to sell stuff
3) People want to browse shops and do impulse buying
Runes, I play GW2 (Tarnished Coast represent, haha) and honestly, theres a lot of stuff I never knew existed on the Trading Post because I just never see it. Mabinogi uses an older shop style that is rarely seen anymore (the only other one outside of Nexon's Maplestory that I know of would be the Digimon MMO), and I guess it's just how I feel that it should stay.
I did mention before on the NX forums that there is a Shop Board listing already, but very few people use the Kiosk System due to the 1 million gold/item limit. The system is there, but people would rather use the shops because the game itself is a more "home-like" feel. I'm sure you've visited a thrift store or a garage sale in your life time and just browse stuff, and even have the impulse of buying a few items you weren't expecting to.
As for the gold sinks, I agree with everybody else. There's very little gold leaving the economy as it is, and yet people still want to remove the gold on weapon repairs and bank fees/transaction taxes? Auction House needs updated, Banquet Hosting needs to be implemented, gold values on rewards need to be lowered (quit giving out 100k cheques), and NPC shops everywhere need to be flat out rehauled with updated clothes, weapons, and items.
For your 2nd point, I fail to see how it's punishing players to sell stuff? They're given the ability to sell their items without being required to be online. I consider that a fair trade based on the fact that a little more than 2 years ago selling items at all required you to have at least paid Inventory Plus Service.
It's punishing players who want to sell stuff because they have to pay RL money to do so. I want an equal opportunity for players to sell stuff so that there's more entries in the housing board so I don't have to throw up a party sign or spam bugels just to get an item I want but can't bloody find because it's on some obscure channel or the person who has it is offline and can't sell it at that time.
Pretty much it comes down to availability and it being difficult to find what I want, when I want it. Something I'm growing accustomed to through other market systems. That's one of my main gripes. Enchants make that even worse >.>
Spamming party signs for 3 days is not fun and neither is spending $1.5 on a bugel to get the word out. Which I've had to resort to several times in the past mind you cause I wasn't finding the particular item I wanted that was being sold but the person couldn't have a shop open in housing or in the main market channels I was on.
>TFW you never knew Mabi had a bank limit because you've never had more than 5 mil anyway. :llama_cry:
I do wish there was a better way to find the average price of things. If I have something to sell, and it's not on housing board, I pretty much just make up a price, then lower it until someone buys it.
question: what and when do you guys buy goods from other players?
How often they are:
Gachapon weapons
Gachapon clothes/armors
Reforges
Enchants
Other nx stuff
holy water
training mats (ores, silk, fabric, etc)
Personally i buy hw 1 or 2 stacks every month
I was unaware that if a person bought Premium/VIP, they were required to use Housing. Last I checked, nobody in the game is required to use housing to sell their stuff. I don't have either and I still make money just opening a shop in Tir, Dunbarton, or Belvast. Housing is not a punishment by any means to the playerbase. Being required to have Inv+ to sell items was, and Nexon knocked down that barrier.
That said, I am in agreement with you in the fact that there has to be a better solution for the endless Party Ads and the Enchant Scroll names being visible. I am okay with having a "Wanted" board for items, or giving players their own chat channel or something so it doesn't take up the Party Chat. However, that isn't Nexon's fault that for your transactions, the person with the item you want doesn't want to change channels to the main market channel.
Have to is a strong word. If you want to sell things offline like normal MMO's you do have to use Housing. As for blaming Nexon. I'm not blaming Nexon, I'm just saying the current system sucks and needs a better solution.
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[SIZE="1"]There should be some sort of system to help out the pricing aspects of merchandising. For example, when buying an item in the shops an average price would be listed so you know if you're getting scammed or otherwise. A lot of people are always asking others, "What's the price of xxx?" and this could potentially help them realize the weight of gold on certain items. [/SIZE]
It's nice to stalk off-channel shops and kiosks on 1st day of gacha and get 20m items for 500k. Or when you randomly search housing and see oblivion burns for 100k. A board that handles auto pricing or shows the prices of similar items would ruin that happiness.