Let's talk about how trash Laighlinne is!

• Tetosan wrote on 2016-01-18 13:59
  Let's talk about it.
  
  So yeah, all this powercreep in Mabinogi.
  Everyone wants to be the strongest, everyone wants new things coming out to be super strong and flashy. It's disgusting and takes any satisfaction out of the game.
  The degree of Powercreep in this game really makes me want Nexon to simply throw away their idea of a Classless MMORPG and make you able to learn all the skills, train all the skills BUT ONLY IF YOU'RE IN THE TALENT OF THIS SKILL.
  I'm really disgusted how everything has shifted to Bards being a mere subtalent by now. If there's a way to make things more appealing to me in this game it is to nerf Instrument/Microphone-less Buff skills and give Bards Debuff skills that are also not useable without an Instrument AND both, Buff and Debuff only give 25% of the Max Effect if you're a Talent other than Bard.
  
  And don't even get me started on Reforges, they should be removed and it would've been better they never existed. Reforges are for plebs who can't beat Content without 1-hitting everything. There's no Satisfaction in the game due to everyone boasting about their 1-Hit Shenanigans they aquired by spamming the Box event or wasting 200m on Reforges or even 200$ on Reforges.
  There's so many Games that have Balancing without shitty Reforging and Enchanting, why does it have to be a thing in Mabinogi?
  Because the Players are so lazy that Nexon/devCat needs to introduce powercreep so the lazy bastards get their asses in motion.
  The Same Power-hungry people then go on to complain that there is no challenging Content in the Game and that everything is too easy.
  Well you morons, unequip your flashy Reforged and Enchanted Gear, maybe then things get a tad bit more difficult. Also stop using Rain Casting and Lullaby on everything because you're too scared to engage in an actual fight.
  
  Is this post filled with Sarcasm? hmmh maybe but most likely not.
• Zeo wrote on 2016-01-18 18:27

  Quote from Tetosan;1292922:

  The Same Power-hungry people then go on to complain that there is no challenging Content in the Game and that everything is too easy.
  Well you morons, unequip your flashy Reforged and Enchanted Gear, maybe then things get a tad bit more difficult. Also stop using Rain Casting and Lullaby on everything because you're too scared to engage in an actual fight.

  
  
  The truth right here and... This is why you deserve a rep+.
  
  It's sad how I've been seeing same people complain that Mabinogi are too easy yet they're the same person who heavily-rely on the reforges and enchanted gears... Maybe they shouldn't use them then things will get bit more difficult for those people.
  
  Honestly... They shouldn't be complaining that the game are too easy if they're one spamming Lullaby and Rain Casting while using heavily reforged/enchanted gears to breeze through everything.
• Qnjo wrote on 2016-01-18 18:49

  Quote from Zeo;1292926:

  Honestly... They shouldn't be complaining that the game are too easy if they're one spamming Lullaby and Rain Casting while using heavily reforged/enchanted gears

  
  The issue of poor balance is still there though. If one has to handicap themselves to feel some challenge, something must've gone wrong during game development.
  
  But it's too late now. Newer content only encourages players to go cheap. Devs gave up on making use of mabi's advanced combat system ever again.
• ironwoman wrote on 2016-01-18 19:26
  I'm pretty sure there's a reason why Devil Kitties encouraged players to shoot for the Limit Breaker title...
  
  I'd like to add in couple cents that many contents actually do not require any reforge to be completed at all. Prime example of this is TDB elite, you can literally solo a gate at 3k level naked with a beginner control bar. A lot of "advanced hard mode" dungeons can be done naked by a player, the same can be said for hard mode and elite missions, and I've actually run several missions elite solo on very few equips or no equips at all because I didn't really feel the need to.
  
  While I agree that the reforges and what not are part of the problem as to why people are hitting so high, I think the bigger issue lies in some skills' nature (*cough Final Hit *cough), and generally how much stat access players have. This game was destined to be like this from the beginning.
  
  With all that being said, that's why I'm welcoming the dungeon revamps.
  
  On another note, perhaps a mod should move the last few posts to a new thread.
• Traw wrote on 2016-01-18 20:00

  Quote from Qnjo;1292928:

  The issue of poor balance is still there though. If one has to handicap themselves to feel some challenge, something must've gone wrong during game development.
  
  But it's too late now. Newer content only encourages players to go cheap. Devs gave up on making use of mabi's advanced combat system ever again.

  
  
  This is the only fucking game where people are such lazy shits they dont want to work on their gear. How the hell is enchanted gear a crutch? Yea I can 1hit with it equipped but what the fuck. Dont work on your gear for a challenge? Next thing you are going to do is tell me not to train skills so the game can be hard.
  
  If a person works hard on their gear and beats you in damage then they arent relying on a crutch. Youre just a lazy fuck. If you have to handicap yourself for combat to be fun then the game has failed.
• Esileruf wrote on 2016-01-18 20:28

  Quote from Traw;1292930:

  This is the only fucking game where people are such lazy shits they dont want to work on their gear. How the hell is enchanted gear a crutch? Yea I can 1hit with it equipped but what the fuck. Dont work on your gear for a challenge? Next thing you are going to do is tell me not to train skills so the game can be hard.
  
  If a person works hard on their gear and beats you in damage then they arent relying on a crutch. Youre just a lazy fuck. If you have to handicap yourself for combat to be fun then the game has failed.

  
  
  I'm gonna need a map to properly understand this post. Honestly, you got any clue what power creep is? People are literally doing that because the game is far too easy. Others do go without enchanted gear, but for the most part half of those people are morons, or they're mages, which in order to do 90% of your possible damage, all you even need to work on is your weapons.
  
  The fact that you can go without enchants now to do content because your stats can go so high already screams something is wrong. Crutchgaming kinda can't even apply anymore.
• Zeo wrote on 2016-01-19 15:39

  Quote from Esileruf;1292932:

  I'm gonna need a map to properly understand this post. Honestly, you got any clue what power creep is? People are literally doing that because the game is far too easy. Others do go without enchanted gear, but for the most part half of those people are morons, or they're mages, which in order to do 90% of your possible damage, all you even need to work on is your weapons.
  
  The fact that you can go without enchants now to do content because your stats can go so high already screams something is wrong. Crutchgaming kinda can't even apply anymore.

  
  
  So much of this... My stats are very high to a point where I don't even need enchanted gears or reforges to get by 95% contents without any issues. I do agree that the game does need some challenging perspectives and I think that is why the dungeon revamp and Alban training center is a good place to go at it but the problem with DevCat is that they can't exactly make content too challenging without giving the mobs/boss a cheap tactic.
  
  I don't think some of those people can really be considered as a 'moron' if they can get by most of the contents fine without relying on enchants and reforges but I guess that's mainly for endgame players like some of us here. Some of them do use them just so they can clear the content faster, and I know some do it just to show off the high, shiny damage that really serve no purpose.
  
  I know we are getting very off the topic here..
  
  And for Laighlinne... Personally, I play as a part of fashionogi in Mabinogi, so getting a Laighlinne is a must for me, and I really appreciate her shop since it's basically a portable shop for scroll score so I don't have to worry about going to a general shop to grab some scroll everytime.
• Rynn wrote on 2016-01-19 15:46
  Going back to the partner, the lucky upgrade stones you get from gifts do not expire. You can get the stones from the normal giftbox you receive every day.
  Worth.
• ironwoman wrote on 2016-01-19 16:14
  Also for those of you that are story line enthusiasts, Laighlinne gives you few keywords that may say more about Samhain. This is unlocked at 180 favor.
• Shibuya wrote on 2016-01-19 16:18

  Quote from Rynn;1292965:

  Going back to the partner, the lucky upgrade stones you get from gifts do not expire. You can get the stones from the normal giftbox you receive every day.
  Worth.

  
  
  Oh wow, you're not joking? That sounds absolutely delish.
  I'm really tempted to spend my money on Laigh, but the only thing that turns me off is the price tag.
  Considering the free 10m i'll get from the outfit and how cute the partner looks... mmm...
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2016-01-19 16:18
  I think this topic has gotten out of hand and we've discussed all there is to discuss here. The only arguments left is people going back and forth bickering about how the game sucks or that Nexon sucks, or that players suck for giving Nexon money.
  
  It's an endless cycle of debate that will never end >.>
  
  Now if the topic shifted back on to what the partner is capable of and what other features there are, I think we'd have something go off of :P
  
  

  Quote from ironwoman;1292967:

  Also for those of you that are story line enthusiasts, Laighlinne gives you few keywords that may say more about Samhain. This is unlocked at 180 favor.

  
  
  Like this for instance. This is really good news, I guess I'll have to get her favor up. I haven't been motivated to hop on lately but this has caught my interest enough to at least work on getting her favor up.
• Shibuya wrote on 2016-01-19 16:20

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1292969:

  I think this topic has gotten out of hand and we've discussed all there is to discuss here. The only arguments left is people going back and forth bickering about how the game sucks or that Nexon sucks, or that players suck for giving Nexon money.
  
  It's an endless cycle of debate that will never end >.>

  
  
  No matter what, people will argue over just about everything, no matter the reason.. 'Tis the truth and the full truth.
  Honestly, from what i've seen people should make their own choices. If they regret those choices, then it should be a good life-lesson and something to learn from. If people wanna blow their paycheck on gacha... while I wouldn't do that, i'm not controlling their lives.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2016-01-19 16:22

  Quote from Shibuya;1292970:

  No matter what, people will argue over just about everything, no matter the reason.. 'Tis the truth and the full truth.
  Honestly, from what i've seen people should make their own choices. If they regret those choices, then it should be a good life-lesson and something to learn from. If people wanna blow their paycheck on gacha... while I wouldn't do that, i'm not controlling their lives.

  
  
  At the end of the day, I think it comes down to, does the person spending the money find it worth it? Did they get enjoyment out of it? For me, the answer to all of that is yes. While spending on gacha is a waste, not going to argue that point. I do it anyways cause i find some enjoyment out of the items in the gach and someone has to gach in the first place to get some of those items.
  
  If nobody gach'd well, Nexon would lose money very quickly I think and Mabinogi would shut down. I'm getting off topic here again though so that's all I'll say on that particular subject.
• jirachistar wrote on 2016-01-20 12:50

  Quote from ironwoman;1292967:

  Also for those of you that are story line enthusiasts, Laighlinne gives you few keywords that may say more about Samhain. This is unlocked at 180 favor.

  
  
  Her NPC portrait temporarily changes to the other form when using these too.
• ironwoman wrote on 2016-01-21 02:07
  Ok, anyone that says this partner is not worth is clearly is a crook.
  
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  I did not photoshop that meme in, you can check it yourself at 240 likability.
  
  I don't think we had a partner who is a meme enthusiast yet.
  
  [SPOILER="Context of the meme"]So for those wondering why this is considered a meme, it's because in the original Korean one, it will say "난 슬플때 하프를 쳐" which is a reference to the meme "난 슬플때 힙합을 춰" (which translates to "i dance to hip hop when I'm sad OR Nothing cheers me up like dancing to hip hop". In Korean, both phrases sound fairly similar phonetically, hence the reference. In NA servers, I guess you could make a reference to the lines of "nothing cheers me up like..." series in the likeness of reddit and other sites. [/SPOILER]