The squires - Page 1 | Questions & Help

Heleo wrote on 2016-04-14 21:41

so i know the gen just started a couple of hours ago, but anyone have any clue if the interesting conversation has a pattern so we can abuse it to get a good friendly rating?

Daakun wrote on 2016-04-15 03:22

Edit: Snip. Turns out they go in order, so 'don't repeat twice in a row' was indeed just my bad luck.

ironwoman wrote on 2016-04-15 05:02

There is a known pattern for squires.

Here it is: https://www.mabinogi.pe.kr/bbs/zboard.php?id=tips&no=10077

Daakun wrote on 2016-04-15 07:03

Bah, can't google translate that 'cause they're images instead of tables.

Iyasenu wrote on 2016-04-15 10:10

Google's translations are weird, and I'm really bad at handwriting the words in the image.

But I think it's like...

Dai/Eirlys (Red/Yellow respectively)
The first column of the table is the point in the pattern. (1~97)
The second column is the hint they give (1 of their dislikes)
and the Third column is what the correct choice is.
You don't have to use a truth note for Elise/dai since you can probably find your point in the pattern by using their dislike hints.

For Kaour and Elise, you'll either have to get some lucky 3 guesses in a row or use a Truth Note to find your point in their pattern. (Shuan can get you the first conversation topic but from their it's a crapshoot without a Truth Note)

íŒ¨ì…˜ = Fashion
ìž„ë¬´ = Mission
ë†€ì´ = Playing
ì—°ì• = Dating
ìˆ˜ë ¨ = Training
ìŒì‹ = Cooking

Again, this is just what I got from google and my bad handwriting the characters in the image.

There are points (likeability levels : certain %) where it will break from the pattern to go to a special conversation.

These Lv:%'s are in the table to the right.
Ex: Eirlys has special conversations starting at Lv1 2.9%, Lv1 28.6%, Lv1 71.4% (etc etc)
The correct keyword for these is listed there as well

It seems like if you trigger a special conversation, it'll just replace whatever WOULD have been there, wherever you are in the pattern. ...maybe

I was at 18, 19, 20 for Eirlys, did 18, then triggered her special where 19 would be, then after that the next right answer was 20's choice. ("Better not talk about Playing" and the right one was "Training"

Iyasenu wrote on 2016-04-15 12:09

This is Eirlys' Conversation Pattern.

[Image: http://i.imgur.com/Ov7oG5g.png]

Just somehow find where you are currently at in the pattern and hope you don't lose your place.

Here's Eirlys' Special Conversation info

[Image: http://i.imgur.com/yvgdwSK.png]

That took forever to make, I wonder if there's a better way than just manually remaking the chart in english.

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Here's Dai's table in english

[Image: http://i.imgur.com/yiADCjw.png]

And his Special Convo Info

[Image: http://i.imgur.com/5xKTxqY.png]

Heleo wrote on 2016-04-15 19:44

That you so much Iyaseno. I've had the most luck with Eirlys since I started :D

Kawaiipotato wrote on 2016-04-15 20:07

i need one for kanna she tew hard for me

vouchasfed wrote on 2016-04-15 22:47

Kaoru and Elsie pattern english translation. idk what that one column is on special conversations so some1 pls tell me so i can fix it. thx

UPDATED VERSION: better one. pulled off of NA forums
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xc5Nk6swRiN8BreBN2_BRL6WOLjEtplq_MIM7ic8-Us/pubhtml?nxid=10
AND
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_GWTmoYt6uSTQ0vsZ5MP09I7Wol7MuEtcSbYj0iDyLM/pubhtml?nxid=10#

previous:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DItD0bvNOEC40H1iC4dnLYOhAWH_E9LbWIceby7cVM4/edit?usp=sharing

Notes:

vouchasfed wrote on 2016-04-15 22:53

Kaoru and Elsie

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DItD0bvNOEC40H1iC4dnLYOhAWH_E9LbWIceby7cVM4/edit#gid=0

Chihaya wrote on 2016-04-15 23:32

Well shit, I was hoping the Korean community would keep this a bit more of a secret, but it got out inevitably I guess

Oh well. Good luck with your squads

I swear they're the most bipolar things I've ever seen

Qnjo wrote on 2016-04-15 23:56

Quote from Iyasenu;1294851:
This is Eirlys' Conversation Pattern.

You're the definition of an MVP. Making her my [S]waifu[/S] squire would be much easier now.

ironwoman wrote on 2016-04-16 00:53

Quote from Chihaya;1294872:
Well shit, I was hoping the Korean community would keep this a bit more of a secret, but it got out inevitably I guess

Oh well. Good luck with your squads

I swear they're the most bipolar things I've ever seen

?

Koreans figuring this out was old news. Not sure about how not releasing the pattern on NA sites is keeping a secret since basically there is none...

pyropaladan wrote on 2016-04-16 01:36

whats ur command level need to be for more squires

Zure wrote on 2016-04-16 03:07

Quote from vouchasfed;1294869:
Kaoru and Elsie pattern english translation. idk what that one column is on special conversations so some1 pls tell me so i can fix it. thx

UPDATED VERSION: better one. pulled off of NA forums
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xc5Nk6swRiN8BreBN2_BRL6WOLjEtplq_MIM7ic8-Us/pubhtml?nxid=10
AND
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_GWTmoYt6uSTQ0vsZ5MP09I7Wol7MuEtcSbYj0iDyLM/pubhtml?nxid=10#

previous:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DItD0bvNOEC40H1iC4dnLYOhAWH_E9LbWIceby7cVM4/edit?usp=sharing

Notes:

you may only advance to the next sequence after a success. [You can only move on after using the right keyword]
+Logan and Kanna tell you which topic they want to talk about.
+If you seem to be out of sequence but are sure you are on the correct sequence then you are probably on a SPECIAL conversation.
+It is very hard to keep track of Elise and Kaour because there are no hints. Avoid being lost by following the pattern.
+Truth notes will get you back on track. Shaun's tips may help you as well to a lesser extent.
+You need higher command levels to recruit more knights. Knights must be at level 3 favor. you gain the option after using the 3 keywords.
+Knight conversations reset at 6AM mabi time (in game time)
+To increase a knight's stats, have them complete training. Training requires training number of training points. Certain training may decrease other stats, but not below 0. [Lowest stat level is 1]
+Stats increase chances of success at a mission. Check the icons next to the mission or click the mission to see recommended stat levels.
+Cap mission success rate is 95%?
+You must MANUALLY complete missions and training to be able to interact with him or her normally. [return to neutral]
+Missions increase stress. These can be lowered by taking your squire out. Resets at Saturday 7AM pst real time. -50 stress. Lose/Gain ? favor points

Does that mean if I miss in one of the responses I'm back to square 1 and need to guess where I am or I'm in the same place until I get the answer right?