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Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-23 18:45
Quote from CableCrook;164028:
They gain the pleasure of living like someone else
You get sex
Who's NOT to win?
Glad you agree, by the way.
But relationships aren't only about sex. That's what you're missing. The most vital point.
Friendships aren't about using each other. Relationships either.
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Rose wrote on 2010-09-23 18:48
Quote from Phunkie;164037:
But relationships aren't only about sex. That's what you're missing. The most vital point.
Friendships aren't about using each other. Relationships either.
Life is about using something.
The greatest achievement, is when you gain something for nothing.
Life is pointless, it's small, its insignificant, It doesn't matter what you do with it, it's still just, nothing.
And don't worry, Zid
I love you too, bro! (But i don't want to get in your pants, or do i?)
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-09-23 18:56
I feel love for friends, but I don't really feel the romance kinda love too often. Think I only felt it once when I started to like my best friend... D8
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Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-23 19:02
Quote from CableCrook;164038:
Life is about using something.
The greatest achievement, is when you gain something for nothing.
Life is pointless, it's small, its insignificant, It doesn't matter what you do with it, it's still just, nothing.
And don't worry, Zid
I love you too, bro! (But i don't want to get in your pants, or do i?)
Life isn't pointless. We don't use friends. If we do, it's an equal exchange. For company, for laughter, for advice... you ask me, I ask you. That sort of thing.
Doesn't make life pointless.
You honestly need to go out and explore some more. Go add some meaning to your life because that way you think right now is wrong. Honestly, you're no better off than emomutt. Life does have a meaning. Maybe yours doesn't, but mine certainly does.
And that's because I've added meaning to my life.
I live for something, for someone. I live to make people smile, to enjoy good laughs. I wake up every morning and I know where I'm going, because my life has meaning. And so does love and so do friendships.
You just take those stuff for granted. Maybe because you're young, maybe because you haven't learned what it is to feel love or experience good friendships.
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Zid wrote on 2010-09-23 19:19
I don't believe in something for nothing though. Like the law of converting matter/energy, there's always something for every something you do. Like making friends laugh so you can be happy.
That doesn't necessarily mean "something for something" or equivalent exchange is bad though. It's actually a good thing, in my opinion. Concept of give and take, in a sense.
Also, just as sex isn't necessarily a part of love (the romantic, gender kind), love isn't necessarily sex. There are times when a couple is in the mood for each other, but hold it off because some issue came up. But they still embrace each other and kiss, whispering "I love you" to each other. A husband/boyfriend about to be shipped off to war doesn't say "I love you" to his wife/girlfriend just so he can suddenly have sex right there, if I remember correctly.
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Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-23 19:21
Quote from Zid;164064:
I don't believe in something for nothing though. Like the law of converting matter/energy, there's always something for every something you do.
I was just thinking of that very example. Kudos!
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Bankai231 wrote on 2010-09-23 21:59
Ehh its definetly there. Its a good thing to have and awesome to be in a relationship but the pain is atrocious. I have like 4 girlfriends in the past and ALL of them left me for another guy. Including the one girl (my best friend) who I was madly in love with, to go out with my best friend. Pretty much crushed me for a long time but im over it and not looking to get in a relationship. Pain is to much.
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Adelynn wrote on 2010-09-24 04:02
The immense cynicism on CableCrook's part actually amuses me, no offense. The things you say are just so Stereotypically sex-driven male. Your narrow-mindedness is actually kind of depressing. Just because all YOU think about is getting some (in terms of having a relationship), doesn't mean other people do.
Love is not sex, sex is not love, but they CAN be part of each other.
I fell in love kind of without realizing it, until I started noticing how much I was thinking about him. Sex wasn't even anywhere in my mind at that point. I like being in love, despite the occasional down moments. When you can devote yourself to someone because they're them, instead of for what they can give you, it's an amazing feeling.
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Kazuni wrote on 2010-09-24 04:12
I love being in love (or at least infatuated), and the feeling of being wanted, in general.
I'm pretty vain in that sense; I have to be wanted. It just doesn't feel right if I'm not. It hasn't been hard so far because you know in elementary school... "Who likes who? He likes her?!".. ya know.
High school's a bit different because imo, almost all of the guys in my grade are pretty lame :l
I might have a crush on someone or just be infatuated with them, but I think I've learned my lesson in not taking myself seriously anymore. I'm really curious, I guess. I like the feeling of uncertainty and wondering more than having a relationship.
It's confusing, because there's a guy from my school that I like right now, but I know that he's not really right for me. But still, I get shivers when I'm around him. It's that feeling I like. The chase instead of the catch, I guess. I get bored easily after I find out whether my feelings are returned.
Personally, I've had crushes all the time for a longgg time, it's just something to think about when I have nothing to do. I'm not sure what's controlling it or why I'm like that, but I can't actually remember a time (before like, grade 2...) that I didn't have a crush of some sort. I always have to find something to circle around, like a planet's moon.
Without some sort of entertainment, everything is dull and flat and boring.
It's confusing stuff. I've dabbled in relationships before, but I've decided I'm not ready for them.
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silentselene wrote on 2010-09-24 04:16
Well, you do "gain" something out of love, it's the happiness you get from making someone else happy.
It's a great feeling~
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Adelynn wrote on 2010-09-24 04:16
I think the moment you know you're ready is when it's about the catch, and not the chase anymore. At least you're aware of it.
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Kazuni wrote on 2010-09-24 04:18
Quote from Adelynn;164423:
I think the moment you know you're ready is when it's about the catch, and not the chase anymore. At least you're aware of it.
I think the reason I'm infatuated with love is because I get bored otherwise. Life is so repetitive.
It's sorta an unconscious decision to shift my attention to the opposite sex.
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Tatsu wrote on 2010-09-24 04:20
Quote from Kazuni;164420:
Without some sort of entertainment, everything is dull and flat and boring.
I've said it before, being bored isn't always a bad thing!
Never been in love before. At the very best, it's only physical attraction. Never been on this emotional high like the majority of you have, apparently.
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Rose wrote on 2010-09-24 04:21
Quote from Adelynn;164413:
The immense cynicism on CableCrook's part actually amuses me, no offense. The things you say are just so Stereotypically sex-driven male. Your narrow-mindedness is actually kind of depressing. Just because all YOU think about is getting some (in terms of having a relationship), doesn't mean other people do.
Love is not sex, sex is not love, but they CAN be part of each other.
I fell in love kind of without realizing it, until I started noticing how much I was thinking about him. Sex wasn't even anywhere in my mind at that point. I like being in love, despite the occasional down moments. When you can devote yourself to someone because they're them, instead of for what they can give you, it's an amazing feeling.
I never said just wanted to gain sex, you can gain plenty of things from a realationship.
Not something meaningless and "Unphysical" (Not sure if that's a word) theres plenty of stuff (Y) You just need to find it.
Phunkie, i never said "Love" in itself was pointless, i said life was, end of story...
I understand that we have to do something, and I won't go around being liek "QQ mi hatezor mah lyf som1 lyk kulll mi plz"
But at the end of the day, i understand life will end, so theirs no point struggling, eh.
Zid, I still love you bro.
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Adelynn wrote on 2010-09-24 04:22
Love is nice, but its purpose isn't to sate boredom. A strong relationship survives beyond the initial novelty of it. It's life's nature to be relatively mundane. You need to find something you're passionate about without confusing it for love/crushes/etc.
EDIT: Gah. More posts between mine than I expected.
I never said you in particular wanted to gain sex, but that was basically the way you talk about love. You say that things that people call love are sex or guilt, which I disagree with.