New Poll Confirms Massive Re-Election Crisis For Obama

• Hiccup wrote on 2010-09-27 22:37
  Nah, I dont much care for em. Not like they are going to do what they promised.
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-27 22:40
  If it's small-scale, they usually do, since most smaller communities don't tolerate crap like America does with its Presidents.
  
  In fact, they care. Old people go out to vote for City Councils and whatnot. It's cute. haha
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-09-27 22:42
  I never sense any changes once a new person gets elected. Just the same old typical stuff soz
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-27 22:44

  Quote from Bieber;168537:

  I never sense any changes once a new person gets elected. Just the same old typical stuff soz

  
  
  Do you actually look up the local news?
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-09-27 22:46
  Uhm.... ya.
• Arsik wrote on 2010-09-27 22:50

  Quote from Phunkie;168530:

  If it's small-scale, they usually do, since most smaller communities don't tolerate crap like America does with its Presidents.
  
  In fact, they care. Old people go out to vote for City Councils and whatnot. It's cute. haha

  
  
  Depends where you are, really. Sure, someplace where there are a good number of people, city representatives and such should have a high voter turn out, since the chances of meeting people you promised things to are high. How ever, small places, like the town I live it, don't need to have people vote because of the fact that we're so small, nothing we do will be of significance.
  
  Starting to dive into the state matters, you now got people that would rather bash their opponents and raise money for their campaign than actually care about what happens to the people. Sure, you get one of those old senators/congressman that were around when politics meant something to the people and were in the people's best interests, so they tend to vote for things or make bills that help the people. But just the past month when Connecticut was having their primaries (NESN, being New England's sports network, and being stationed in Connecticut), 99% of the campaigns were literally about how you shouldn't vote for the other candidates. They didn't even say why you should vote for him, so like someone in this thread said, the citizens are actually voting for the lesser of two evils than actually what's important.
  
  Then we have the Presidential elections. The only reason I voted in '08 was because I was 19 and it was my first election that I could actually vote. But I really see no reason for my vote. It's not that my vote is so minuscule in comparison to everyone that votes, so one vote doesn't matter, but the fact that we can't vote for the candidate directly. We're actually voting for someone that we're assuming that will vote for our candidate, meaning that my vote only "matters" if said person votes for who I wanted when I checked the candidate's name. Should that person decide to troll and vote for Donald Duck, for example, my vote is wasted, because I didn't vote for Donald Duck. So really, as long as we have the electoral college to vote for our country's leaders, then the regular citizen's vote really isn't worth a damn, as unpatriotic as that sounds.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-09-27 22:54
  mhm basically what campaigns are here. Bashing the competition while promoting yourself, then asking for money (whether it be through you buying signs or donating). And once you donate money your stuck in a hole where you will constantly be called on for more donations :U
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-09-27 23:54

  Quote from Bieber;168564:

  mhm basically what campaigns are here. Bashing the competition while promoting yourself, then asking for money (whether it be through you buying signs or donating). And once you donate money your stuck in a hole where you will constantly be called on for more donations :U

  
  
  But if it didn't matter, then why does the nation run?
  
  They make decisions that impact our lives every day and keep the country secure. Many promises are made that can't be kept, but you saying politicians are as corrupt as you say they are is like saying any one of us would suddenly transform into a lying greedy bastard the moment we graduate from law/business/government school and become a politician.
  
  If that was the case, there would be a lot more NORMAL citizens who would try to secure a position and a lot more people would vote for them.
  
  That said, I don't think you know enough of the details to vote in the first place, so keep staying oblivious and stay out of the booth.
• Axx wrote on 2010-09-28 00:10
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  We're actually voting for someone that we're assuming that will vote for our candidate, meaning that my vote only "matters" if said person votes for who I wanted when I checked the candidate's name. Should that person decide to troll and vote for Donald Duck, for example, my vote is wasted, because I didn't vote for Donald Duck.

  [/FONT]No longer the case. There are "laws" preventing that, although there originally weren't. The way the original system was intended to work actually makes a lot of sense--but that got thrown out during the 3rd general election, so it's almost a moot point now.
  
  

  
  
  They make decisions that impact our lives every day and keep the country secure. Many promises are made that can't be kept, but you saying politicians are as corrupt as you say they are is like saying any one of us would suddenly transform into a lying greedy bastard the moment we graduate from law/business/government school and become a politician.
  
  If that was the case, there would be a lot more NORMAL citizens who would try to secure a position and a lot more people would vote for them.
  
  

  
  I actually firmly believe that WOULD actually happen if it wasn't prohibitively expensive to [seriously] run for an office. You need money to win an election.
  
• Osayidan wrote on 2010-09-28 00:19
  Electing leaders wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't a 2 party system. Sure they allow 3rd parties like greens and so on, but do they ever get anywhere? It's just the illusion that it isn't a 2 party system. You either vote to get screwed one way or another way.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-09-28 00:23

  Quote from Osayidan;168714:

  Electing leaders wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't a 2 party system. Sure they allow 3rd parties like greens and so on, but do they ever get anywhere? It's just the illusion that it isn't a 2 party system. You either vote to get screwed one way or another way.

  
  
  The red and blue states.
  
  I really wanna see a green. Or gold. I dunno.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-09-28 00:26

  Quote from Cucurbita;168671:

  
  That said, I don't think you know enough of the details to vote in the first place, so keep staying oblivious and stay out of the booth.

  
  
  K i will
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-28 00:36
  I hate the whole electoral college thing as well, now that someone brought it up. :(
• Spartaaaaa wrote on 2010-09-28 00:39

  Quote from Osayidan;168714:

  Electing leaders wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't a 2 party system. Sure they allow 3rd parties like greens and so on, but do they ever get anywhere? It's just the illusion that it isn't a 2 party system. You either vote to get screwed one way or another way.

  
  
  Not to mention that there isn't much difference between the two parties anyway (besides what they say, and we all know how reliable that is. I honestly do not see any change from the Bush administration after Obama went into office. We're still fighting in the Middle East (complete with the whole "mission accomplished" scenario) and government money is still going to Planned Parenthood (Murder-hood).
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-28 00:40
  It'll be years before we see any real change, but we're not doing so bad right now.
  
  Recession's getting better, yeah?