New Gameabout interview: two directors for chapter 4

• Tatsigi wrote on 2010-10-08 00:45

  Quote from Justified;178679:

  BS. They don't nerf Golem "because people spent AP on it" but they have no problem nerfing Blaze and all advanced magic? Needing to spend like 300 AP just so my Fireball and Ice Spear stay useful is one of the reasons I don't want G13.
  Other is that the un-"class" system is stupid.

  
  
  QFT, do you know how F-ing P***** I am that i spent a crapload of ap into getting rank 1 Blaze and Thunder and now they feel like freaking nerfing them in g13. Meaning I have to get like 500 ap? for my bolts and adv magic to do their normal damage. I'm so glad the alchemist are gettign nerfed. Golem = OPed. The tatsi is against g13.
  
  [Edit] The tatsi is done rageing and is able to articulate sentences. Beisdes g13 being a fail for mages, and the new revised class system just breaking the game (Fail directors, changing the class system. Even though taking away potion making from mages....wtf?) G13s2 seems to finally give the archers what they wanted. Also even though, yall probabaly know. I was looking at crash shot and archers are gonna be happy with this update. It is comparable to WM for archers and Rank 1. The person in the video was hitting 1k damage, but back to the topic....Also by races having acess to other races skills. Does that mean, I finally get to turn my human into an elf =D
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-10-08 00:55

  Quote from Tatsigi;178710:

  Also by races having acess to other races skills. Does that mean, I finally get to turn my human into an elf =D

  
  
  xP... I think they are not going to do it. I hope so xP. If they do, it will be sooo gamebreaking that mabi will be like a PS. xP
• Tatsigi wrote on 2010-10-08 01:10

  Quote from abc33kr;178717:

  xP... I think they are not going to do it. I hope so xP. If they do, it will be sooo gamebreaking that mabi will be like a PS. xP

  
  
  Awwz :( well i can still dream o3o I would so buy a race changing card for $10. Nexon is already breaking the game already. They should atleast make money doing it.
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-10-08 01:12

  Quote from Tatsigi;178733:

  Awwz :( well i can still dream o3o I would so buy a race changing card for $10. Nexon is already breaking the game already. They should atleast make money doing it.

  
  
  Well that is true. xP
• Juno wrote on 2010-10-08 02:23
  It's hard to take blaze nerf QQ seriously when it still hits harder for less resources than any other skill, not to mention how easy it is to pull off.
  
  Sure, it's not crazy anymore...but it's still great.
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-10-08 02:46
  Wait, isn't magic tons better with the new INT formula (+% magic damage) and the new masteries?
  
  Sure, Thunder pre-G13 sucks post-G13, but with high INT and Lightning Mastery, Thunder pre-G13 < Thunder post-G13.
• Justified wrote on 2010-10-08 03:03

  Quote from Juno;178805:

  It's hard to take blaze nerf QQ seriously when it still hits harder for less resources than any other skill, not to mention how easy it is to pull off.
  
  Sure, it's not crazy anymore...but it's still great.

  
  
  I'm not too upset over the Blaze nerf, but remember that there's still the 20% Magic Nerf coming up. The Int rebalance doesn't apply to Blaze (since it has it's own formula), so that will be forever weakened, not to mention the 600 Int damage cap. It's possible for Crash Shot to overpower Blaze while under trans (576 base damage) without needing knockdown nonsense (Blaze is also worthless against Advanced Heavy Stander mobs).
  So yea, it's still great. But it's lost most of its luster.
  
  I'm more annoyed that...
  Alchemy Mastery + Summon Golem = 327 AP
  
  Ice Spear = 438AP
  Blaze = 410AP
  Thunder = 409AP
  Fireball = 383AP
  
  Nerf ALL 4 skills (1,640AP, not counting bolts) by 20%, then toss in 468AP in masteries to make up for it. THEN say they won't nerf Golem because it costs AP. (Not like Advanced Magic was that great to begin with.)
  
  

  Quote from Phunkie;178830:

  Wait, isn't magic tons better with the new INT formula (+% magic damage) and the new masteries?
  
  Sure, Thunder pre-G13 sucks post-G13, but with high INT and Lightning Mastery, Thunder pre-G13 < Thunder post-G13.

  
  
  It's better above like 450 Int or something (forgot the actual breaking point), but that's only because of Lightning Mastery. I don't see them nerfing Combat, just to have Weapon Masteries bring it back up. Magic Masteries should have been a supplement, not compensation.
  And "tons" better, not really. I think at best it's like 10-15% damage if you have over 600 Int.
• Tatsigi wrote on 2010-10-08 03:13

  Quote from Phunkie;178830:

  Wait, isn't magic tons better with the new INT formula (+% magic damage) and the new masteries?
  
  Sure, Thunder pre-G13 sucks post-G13, but with high INT and Lightning Mastery, Thunder pre-G13 < Thunder post-G13.

  
  
  Saying Thunder Scks..What is wrong with you. Gonna leave it there.
  
  But until lemme fine the table somewhere....O here (Thank you Iceblade for making it)
  
  

  [Image: http://iceblade.co.za/old/share/MP/Intmagicdmg.jpg]

  
  
  Which means to get my original thunder damage, I would either have to have Rank F lightning mastery and a little over 1000 int, or Put 156 ap into rank 1 lighting mastery and have around 500 int for my normal Thunder damage. With the max possible int (like 1000 something) and rank 1 lightning mastery, I would be hitting like 700 damage more.
  
  

  Quote from Justified;178850:

  I'm not too upset over the Blaze nerf, but remember that there's still the 20% Magic Nerf coming up. The Int rebalance doesn't apply to Blaze (since it has it's own formula), so that will be forever weakened, not to mention the 600 Int damage cap. It's possible for Crash Shot to overpower Blaze while under trans (576 base damage) without needing knockdown nonsense (Blaze is also worthless against Advanced Heavy Stander mobs).
  So yea, it's still great. But it's lost most of its luster.
  
  I'm more annoyed that...
  Alchemy Mastery + Summon Golem = 327 AP
  
  Ice Spear = 438AP
  Blaze = 410AP
  Thunder = 409AP
  Fireball = 383AP
  
  Nerf ALL 4 skills (1,640AP, not counting bolts) by 20%, then toss in 468AP in masteries to make up for it. THEN say they won't nerf Golem because it costs AP. (Not like Advanced Magic was that great to begin with.)
  
  
  
  It's better above like 450 Int or something (forgot the actual breaking point), but that's only because of Lightning Mastery. I don't see them nerfing Combat, just to have Weapon Masteries bring it back up. Magic Masteries should have been a supplement, not compensation.
  And "tons" better, not really. I think at best it's like 10-15% damage if you have over 600 Int.

  
  
  Also Justified, Blaze can once again hit the damage we are currently doing if you have 666 int o3o. (Blaze is appearently the devil's skill o3o)
  
  [EDIT] If crash shot can outdamage blaze, then archers needa stop complaining o.o
• Mentosftw wrote on 2010-10-08 03:18
  Nothing on melee eh?
• Justified wrote on 2010-10-08 03:19
  There were actually a few errors found in that table, though I don't remember what since I'm not the one who went over it.
  For example, 250 Int > 400 Int, 250 Int = 600 Int for Fireball.
  
  I'm pretty sure at best, you'd get a 25% boost in damage after ranking mastery. For thunder, that's like 750 damage at 1,000 Int. More plausible, is the 7.5% boost at 600 Int after ranking mastery, which is a mere 225 damage. Though not all mages have 600 Int, I'd only have 450 with Rank 1 Ice Spear, Fireball, and Icebolt and need to use 308AP just to break even.
• Tatsigi wrote on 2010-10-08 03:23

  Quote from Justified;178883:

  There were actually a few errors found in that table, though I don't remember what since I'm not the one who went over it.
  For example, 250 Int > 400 Int, 250 Int = 600 Int for Fireball.
  
  I'm pretty sure at best, you'd get a 25% boost in damage after ranking mastery. For thunder, that's like 750 damage at 1,000 Int. More plausible, is the 7.5% boost at 600 Int after ranking mastery, which is a mere 225 damage. Though not all mages have 600 Int, I'd only have 450 with Rank 1 Ice Spear, Fireball, and Icebolt and need to use 308AP just to break even.

  
  
  O joy, i barely have 550 and now they want me to get 1000 o3o is it me or does nexon just love F****** mages over
• Lan wrote on 2010-10-08 03:31
  Int cap is 999.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-10-08 03:34
  Oh that helps so much....
  
  
  :l
• Tatsigi wrote on 2010-10-08 03:41

  Quote from Lan;178906:

  Int cap is 999.

  
  
  Which means.....We spent all that ap for like a 30ish boost in bolt damage. And (i don't feel like donig math right now so) a 500-700ish damage boost for adv magic.....I still cannt get over that we need (Magic Bolt Mastery)114ap + (Lightning Mastery)156ap + (Fire Mastery)156ap + (Ice Mastery)156 = 582 ap for the crappy damage boost.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2010-10-08 04:43
  We all knew that bow/crossbow mastery were going to be released. Hopefully they'll also release the other mastery skills (dagger/shield/etc).
  
  What do they mean by "due to the nature of range". Arrow Revolver is underpowered in PVE and mirage missile is useless.