Would you like to have G13 by the end of 2010?

• Vanof wrote on 2010-11-06 16:52

  Quote from gentrone;202756:

  Yes, as for Adv Magic and Blaze, a lot is going away. Add new masteries, whatever, that's fine, but don't nerf the skills we have now (that's inevitable now, meh). This bothers me because I play as mage, now I have to invest hundreds of AP just get my damage back to normal? That's why I need some more time, it's not like I wanted to get skills to r1 the moment they come out, or even finish generation quests which I don't really care about.

  
  
  If you're mostly a mage then you probably have at least 400 int. If you do, that Adv Magic nerf is almost completely irrelevant. As for Blaze, it can still dish tons of damage. It'll still kill almost anything with a good knockback + crit.
• NotAnElf wrote on 2010-11-06 16:59
  No.
  I need more int.
• gentrone wrote on 2010-11-06 22:44

  Quote from Vanof;206280:

  If you're mostly a mage then you probably have at least 400 int. If you do, that Adv Magic nerf is almost completely irrelevant. As for Blaze, it can still dish tons of damage. It'll still kill almost anything with a good knockback + crit.

  
  
  Well let's see:
  
  Let's assume the value of Adv Magic is 1.
  
  It gets nerfed by 25%, then G13 base damage is 0.75
  
  We know that every 20 Int adds 1% damage.
  
  In your example of 400 Int, that would be (base damage)*120%
  
  0.75*120%= 0.9
  
  With 400 Int you get 90% of Pre-G13 damage
  
  You would need about 667 Int just to equal original damage without masteries.
  
  Let's assume you have 400 Int AND r1 Elemental Magic Mastery
  
  0.75*1.15*1.20= 1.035... that's barely 3% more damage.
  
  550 Int (My current)
  
  0.75*1.15%*1.27=1.095... that's 9% more damage.. SOOO a r1 Ice Spear would deal 328 damage. While with the current damage formula and damage, I would hit 335. Doesn't sound irrelevant D; It's ~3% less damage
  
  As for Thunder it get's a little bit better, about 547 damage compared to the current 535, about ~3% more damage.
  
  All in all this update sux for mages who ranked Adv Magic. Bolts will get buffed... they just want us to start using either bolt composer OR Third Tier magic (Which will drain EVEN more AP). It's not fair that we spent 1.2k+ AP in these skills so they just get nerfed and then we need to spend EVEN MORE in masteries and stuff.
• Richard wrote on 2010-11-06 23:59
  I don't really want G13. This filler stuff doesn't appeal to me. The only thing that interests me is leap attack (or is it down attack?). All those mastery skills will get too confusing and are somewhat of a waste in my opinion.
• Jando wrote on 2010-11-07 00:46
  Adv Magic is getting the nerf because they are now Intermediate Magic. Adv magic is a new tier of the magics such as Hailstorm. What's the point of bringing out new stronger Magic when magic already implemented is x10 stronger?
  
  Basic: Fire, Lightning, Ice bolt
  Inter: Blaze, Ice Spear, Thunder, Fireball
  Adv: Hailstorm, ?, ?
  
  Its like this: If you remember the DragonBall Z storyline, bad guys kept getting stronger so the only way to counter this was that the sayians got stronger. You've gone the powerlevel of over 9000 to the 23millions on beyond. If Adv Magic was going to be stronger then Inter Magic then its overpoweredness would break the game.
  
  
  

  Quote from Richard;206650:

  I don't really want G13. This filler stuff doesn't appeal to me. The only thing that interests me is leap attack (or is it down attack?). All those mastery skills will get too confusing and are somewhat of a waste in my opinion.

  
  
  Masteries a waste? They make your current strong skills even stronger. How is that a waste?
• gentrone wrote on 2010-11-07 01:59

  Quote from Jando;206670:

  Adv Magic is getting the nerf because they are now Intermediate Magic. Adv magic is a new tier of the magics such as Hailstorm. What's the point of bringing out new stronger Magic when magic already implemented is x10 stronger?
  
  Basic: Fire, Lightning, Ice bolt
  Inter: Blaze, Ice Spear, Thunder, Fireball
  Adv: Hailstorm, ?, ?
  
  Its like this: If you remember the DragonBall Z storyline, bad guys kept getting stronger so the only way to counter this was that the sayians got stronger. You've gone the powerlevel of over 9000 to the 23millions on beyond. If Adv Magic was going to be stronger then Inter Magic then its overpoweredness would break the game.
  
  
  
  
  Masteries a waste? They make your current strong skills even stronger. How is that a waste?

  
  
  Yes, which leads me to think that if I just started out I wouldn't rank Intermediate magic but Adv onces >_>
  Why would I spend my AP on useless skills when I can hit more for the same AP >_> UGHHH
  
  Anyways, I hope the third tier tier for other spells is zomgbbq.
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-11-07 02:14

  Quote from Jando;206670:

  Adv Magic is getting the nerf because they are now Intermediate Magic. Adv magic is a new tier of the magics such as Hailstorm. What's the point of bringing out new stronger Magic when magic already implemented is x10 stronger?

  
  They have never been advanced magic. I don't know how people have been calling it advanced but on the foreign servers they are always known as intermediate magic.
• Jando wrote on 2010-11-07 03:01

  Quote from Yogurticecream;206728:

  They have never been advanced magic. I don't know how people have been calling it advanced but on the foreign servers they are always known as intermediate magic.

  
  
  I bet NexonNA is going to call them 'Elite Magic'
• Sedia wrote on 2010-11-07 03:51
  Think of this logically. devCat (or Nexon) will have to search for voice actors for Hamlet and the rest.
  Now think of all the anime that you watched originally in japanese.
  Think of the anime that you currently watch that are now dubbed.
  How much time did it take for FUNimation (or whoever) to find voice actors?
  Point is,nobody knows.(Though you could simply look at the original release date and the dub release date and estimate from there.)
  It will probably take a few months at least.We should be seeing it by March-April if not,then possibly early to mid June.
• NotAnElf wrote on 2010-11-07 04:06

  Quote from CurlyBrace13;206833:

  Think of this logically. devCat (or Nexon) will have to search for voice actors for Hamlet and the rest.
  Now think of all the anime that you watched originally in japanese.
  Think of the anime that you currently watch that are now dubbed.
  How much time did it take for FUNimation (or whoever) to find voice actors?
  Point is,nobody knows.(Though you could simply look at the original release date and the dub release date and estimate from there.)
  It will probably take a few months at least.We should be seeing it by March-April if not,then possibly early to mid June.

  >Vindictus
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-07 04:34

  Quote from Yogurticecream;206728:

  They have never been advanced magic. I don't know how people have been calling it advanced but on the foreign servers they are always known as intermediate magic.

  
  
  Why do people think it's intermediate magic? It's heavy magic. :T_T:
• Everwanderer wrote on 2010-11-07 05:40

  Quote from Yogurticecream;206728:

  They have never been advanced magic. I don't know how people have been calling it advanced but on the foreign servers they are always known as intermediate magic.

  
  
  Blame nexon NA for translating them as Adv magic.
• gentrone wrote on 2010-11-07 05:42
  I doesn't matter whatever it's called D;
  
  They rename everything so meh
• 0chocolachao0 wrote on 2010-11-08 02:16
  Hmm G13.....I wonder what will be the new way for experience?
  G1-G3 = Dungeons
  G9-G12 = Shadow Missions
  G13-G? = :what:
• Shanghai wrote on 2010-11-08 02:29

  Quote from 0chocolachao0;208123:

  Hmm G13.....I wonder what will be the new way for experience?
  G1-G3 = Dungeons
  G9-G12 = Shadow Missions
  G13-G? = :what:

  
  
  Stage Missions. Which are really Shadow Missions based on a stage.