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heretic304 wrote on 2010-12-06 00:33
Pre-patch, the crit attribute was not on weapons, and Evy could still crit with the physical portion of smashes even with only rank F. Therefore, WIL does affect her crit chance.
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singer wrote on 2010-12-06 05:07
Just wondering...should i add any ap to Alchemy: Create Golem for scythe evie?
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TA wrote on 2010-12-06 05:23
If you think it's useful and you're going to use it.
I haven't added it to the guide cause I haven't been on much the past couple of days and haven't really tested it out much yet.
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Singleuseonly wrote on 2010-12-06 07:54
Quote from singer;238671:
Just wondering...should i add any ap to Alchemy: Create Golem for scythe evie?
Golems are pretty beast for boss fights and the feedback isn't as bad as I expected, so I would rank it up after the important things like smash mastery and bloody thread. Only problem is that they are kinda clumsy with trash mobs. +You get to have a golem along with soul bind = massive distraction.
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heretic304 wrote on 2010-12-06 19:13
You should also note that the golem can get people killed, because you can't run through it. There are quite a few times where a golem was sent behind me and I couldn't run away. It also has the ability to move you while it walks, which caused me to miss my smash hits quite a few times.
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takumi111 wrote on 2010-12-06 21:02
Quote from Singleuseonly;238741:
Golems are pretty beast for boss fights and the feedback isn't as bad as I expected, so I would rank it up after the important things like smash mastery and bloody thread. Only problem is that they are kinda clumsy with trash mobs. +You get to have a golem along with soul bind = massive distraction.
100% agree except for one thing. If you have Bloody Thread you should be able to take out trash mobs fairly easily so no need for Golem there.
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TA wrote on 2010-12-06 21:04
Well, as per my experience thus far, (I haven't been on the past couple days, so it's limited), it seems that the usefulness of Golems is mostly limited to boss fights, for their massive knockdown chances.
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-12-06 21:11
Quote from Tasha;239045:
Well, as per my experience thus far, (I haven't been on the past couple days, so it's limited), it seems that the usefulness of Golems is mostly limited to boss fights, for their massive knockdown chances.
Mastery speeds them up, so if you max out Mastery they might be useful for trash mobs too.
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Singleuseonly wrote on 2010-12-06 23:22
Quote from Shirayuki;239053:
Mastery speeds them up, so if you max out Mastery they might be useful for trash mobs too.
The AI decreases their overall effectiveness against trash mobs as well. Even with commands, the AI screws up from time to time.
By the way, has anyone killed their teammates while creating the golem yet? =D
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Ruquion wrote on 2010-12-07 01:05
Quote from Tasha;239045:
Well, as per my experience thus far, (I haven't been on the past couple days, so it's limited), it seems that the usefulness of Golems is mostly limited to boss fights, for their massive knockdown chances.
I find them more of a pain when doing Hidden runs.
The boss can hit you from behind the golem and you can't see the boss' movements.
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GregHouse wrote on 2010-12-08 03:24
Quote from Ruquion;239328:
I find them more of a pain when doing Hidden runs.
The boss can hit you from behind the golem and you can't see the boss' movements.
That is what i keep on telling everyone, they wont just believe me. Now, if you go for bosses break's off it gets worst. Im ranking it anyways, not much skills to rank anyways...
Also, golems count as an obstacle, so you will miss smashes from time to time. That can be avoided just going tothe opposite side of the golem but... its a pain, and regarding KD rates, i believe Bloody thread KD is high enough to not to rely on Golem as the KDer... so this leave Golem as a Bonus, not a life or dead need.
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heretic304 wrote on 2010-12-08 23:27
If anything, the Golem is more useful as a distraction, but Scythies already have wisp, which doesn't block you in any way, for that. The golem seems to be more suited for the Staffie because of her lack of a dodge ability.
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TA wrote on 2010-12-08 23:32
I'm still evaluating the Golem's worth... I don't think it actually dies, does it? Well, I'm not sure if the Gnoll King killed it or if he just timed out.
But, I don't seem to take hardly any damage when my golem gets hit. In fact... is it broken?
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Wise wrote on 2010-12-09 00:02
Very detailed and thorough guide, nice job.
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Singleuseonly wrote on 2010-12-09 04:48
Quote from Tasha;241400:
I'm still evaluating the Golem's worth... I don't think it actually dies, does it? Well, I'm not sure if the Gnoll King killed it or if he just timed out.
But, I don't seem to take hardly any damage when my golem gets hit. In fact... is it broken?
I don't think it's broken, something once got me down to 600 health from 1400 by hitting my golem (took quite some time though lol)
I think it only dies when you die or it times out, I haven't seen it die yet. I find it pretty beneficial to solo play and should probably come right after combat mastery.
Edit: Nevermind, right after Death Label (didn't realize you had death label after combat mastery).