Damage Formulas / Percentiles

• Bakuryu wrote on 2010-11-05 17:06
  Damage Formulas
  ALL CREDITS GO TO Mabinogi Heroes Laboratory guild, data was gathered by them.
  What I did was translate the tables and try to make them as pleasing to the eye as I can, so you can gather the information easily. While translating, some of the names were confusing as I only played Fiona, so corrections will be appreciated.
  
  Name= Skill Name or Attack Name (First/Second/etc Hit are the normal attacks)
  Percentile= The main reason you'll want this info, basically shows how much damage it does.
  #Hits= Some attacks do "two in one" (or more)
  Base Mastery= Attack is affected by Combat Mastery or Smash Mastery.
  Mastery= Specific Mastery the skill is affected by.
  Extra Dmg= Unsure of this, but probably the extra damage given by +>8 Enhancements, or maybe some Enchant.
  
  
  
  

  [Image: http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8813/percentiletablefionaswo.png]

  
  
  Damage Formula:
  (ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Base Mastery% + Mastery%)
  
  Critical Damage Formula:
  Damage * [1+ (Critical Skill %) + Will * 0.03/200]
  
  

  [Image: http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9679/percentiletablefionaham.png]

  
  
  Damage Formula:
  (ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Base Mastery% + Mastery%)
  
  Critical Damage Formula:
  Damage * [1+ (Critical Skill %) + Will * 0.03/200]
  
  

  [Image: http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3092/percentiletablelannswor.png]

  
  
  **#1,#2,#3,#4 and #5(max) refer to the amount of thrusts you make before the finishing smash attack of thousand needles.
  
  *Extra Damage:
  Gliding Fury: 1% per 47 AGI
  Lightning Fury: 1% per 47 AGI
  Fury No.7: 1% per 38 AGI
  
  Damage Formula:
  (ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Base Mastery% + Mastery%)
  
  Gliding Fury and Lightning Fury Damage Formula:
  (ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Mastery%) * (1 + agility * 0.01/47)
  
  Fury No.7 Damage Formula:
  (ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Mastery%) * (1 + agility * 0.01/38)
  
  Critical Damage Formula:
  Damage * [1+ (Critical Skill %) + Will * 0.03/200]
  
  

  [Image: http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/9171/percentiletablelannspea.png]

  
  
  Extra Damage:
  Spear #1,2,3,4; 3690: 1% per 40 AGI
  Gliding Fury: 1% per 47 AGI
  Lightning Fury: 1% per 47 AGI
  
  Damage Formula:
  (ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Base Mastery% + Mastery%)
  
  Twin Spear Smashes Damage Formula:
  (ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Mastery%) * (1 + agility * 0.01/40)
  
  Gliding Fury and Lightning Fury Damage Formula:
  (ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Mastery%) * (1 + agility * 0.01/47)
  
  Fury No.7 Damage Formula:
  (ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Mastery%) * (1 + agility * 0.01/38)
  
  Critical Damage Formula:
  Damage * [1+ (Critical Skill %) + Will * 0.03/200]
  
  

  [Image: http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7903/percentiletableeviestaf.png]

  
  
  Physical Damage Formula:
  (ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Mastery%)
  
  Magical Damage Formula:
  (MATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Mastery%)
  
  Physical Critical Damage Formula:
  Damage * [1+ (Critical Skill %) + Will * 0.03/200]
  
  Magical Critical Damage Formula:
  Damage * [1+ (Magic Critical Skill %) + (Intelligence [COLOR=Black]+1000)[/COLOR] * 0.03/200]
  
  Gravity Inversion Damage Formula:
  (MATK + 10500) * 1/3 * (1 + Mastery%)
  
  

  [Image: http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8671/percentiletableeviescyt.png]

  
  ^
  Skills with two percentile values means that the attack has two "#Hits" but each of those Hits have a different percentile (and damage type)
  
  Physical Damage Formula:
  (ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Mastery%)
  
  Magical Damage Formula:
  (MATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Base Mastery% + Mastery%)
  
  Physical Critical Damage Formula:
  Damage * [1+ (Critical Skill %) + Will * 0.03/200]
  
  Magical Critical Damage Formula:
  Damage * [1+ (Magic Critical Skill %) + (Intelligence [COLOR=Black]+1000)[/COLOR] * 0.03/200]
  
  Gravity Inversion Damage Formula:
  (MATK + 10500) * 1/3 * (1 + Mastery%)
  
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  Critical Chance Formula
  
  The data gathering for this was done by 에탄올 of Inven. Here is the full report.
  To put it simply he did 1000 hits each time he changed his will, leading to the following result.
  
  [COLOR=Red]Crit chance = (Will * 0.016) + Skill
  
  Skill [COLOR=Black]= Chance provided by your Critical Skill rank.
  
  Which means
  100 [COLOR=YellowGreen]Will = 1,6% Crit chance.
  [/COLOR] [/COLOR][/COLOR]
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-11-05 17:14

  Quote from Bakuryu;205347:

  For Evie Staff I'm going to need some help, probably someone that has played Evie can figure it out without the need of knowing korean.
  
  The table shows
  일반 매직 애로우(첫발)
  일반 매직 애로우(연발)
  일반 매직 애로우(충격파)
  상급 매직 애로우(중앙 첫발)
  상급 매직 애로우(날개 첫발)
  상급 매직 애로우(중앙 연발)
  상급 매직 애로우(날개 연발)
  상급 매직 애로우(충격파)
  Which google translates
  General Magic Arrow (first step)-initial target damage?
  General Magic Arrow (revolvers)-dunno
  General Magic Arrow (Shockwave)-splash damage?
  Greater Magic Arrow (Central first step)-center of the 3 bolts damage?
  Greater Magic Arrow (wings first step)-the 2 outer bolts damage?
  Greater Magic Arrow (Central revolvers)-dunno
  Greater Magic Arrow (chambered wings)-dunno
  Greater Magic Arrow (Shockwave)-splash?
  
  I'm not sure what the stuff between parenthesis means.

  
  
  That's just what I'm guessing. And really nice guide :D It explains why scythe smash damage is so high for a character with such low melee capability xD
• Zid wrote on 2010-11-05 17:56
  Did not know Spear and Gliding Fury skills were affected by Agility. Now I won't feel so bad when putting on AGI gear.
  
  +rep
• Ruquion wrote on 2010-11-05 18:21
  Why remake it when you could've just taken the data from VindiHQ and credited the author?
• Bakuryu wrote on 2010-11-05 18:26

  Quote from Ruquion;205377:

  Why remake it when you could've just taken the data from VindiHQ and credited the author?

  
  
  Reason Nº1
  

  Quote from OP:

  put them all together for easy access

  
  They were all spread out in HQ
  
  Reason Nº2
  There are no Lann and Evie Staff tables in HQ
  
  Reason Nº3
  I was bored
  
  Reason Nº4
  Prettier tables =<
  
  
  And I also plan on adding other info found on that guild site, related to damage too.
• heretic304 wrote on 2010-11-05 19:33

  Quote from Bakuryu;205347:

  
  For Evie Staff I'm going to need some help, probably someone that has played Evie can figure it out without the need of knowing korean.
  
  The table shows
  일반 매직 애로우(첫발)
  일반 매직 애로우(연발)
  일반 매직 애로우(충격파)
  상급 매직 애로우(중앙 첫발)
  상급 매직 애로우(날개 첫발)
  상급 매직 애로우(중앙 연발)
  상급 매직 애로우(날개 연발)
  상급 매직 애로우(충격파)
  Which google translates
  General Magic Arrow (first step)
  General Magic Arrow (revolvers)
  General Magic Arrow (Shockwave)
  Greater Magic Arrow (Central first step)
  Greater Magic Arrow (wings first step)
  Greater Magic Arrow (Central revolvers)
  Greater Magic Arrow (chambered wings)
  Greater Magic Arrow (Shockwave)
  
  I'm not sure what the stuff between parenthesis means.

  
  
  I think this is about where the magic arrow hits the target. I noticed when I used magic Arrow that if I hit it dead center, it deals more damage than if I graze the enemies with the sides of the arrow. Another thing would be after it hits a target, a little bit of air flows outwards, which also deals damage to surrounding enemies.
  
  So my guess is... General Magic Arrow = rF-A magic arrow, with the 1 shot. First step would be a dead center hit, Revolvers would be when the arrow grazes the enemy, and shockwave is the wave that comes out after a hit on the target.
  
  Greater Magic Arrow would probably be the r9 Magic Arrow, with the 3 shots. Central First Step would be the damage that the middle arrow does on a direct hit, and Wings first step would be the damage the arrows on each side does on a direct hit. Central Revolvers would be the damage that the middle arrow does if one of the side arrows hits, because the middle arrow, in that case, will graze the enemy. Chambered Wings is probably the damage that the side arrows do when the mid arrow hits and the side ones graze, and finally shockwave is just the shockwave produced on impact.
  
  Don't quote me on this though <_< it's just a guess =D
• Bakuryu wrote on 2010-11-05 19:38
  Alright that helps a lot, thanks. I'm making an Evie to try around a bit with magic arrow.
• paladin wrote on 2010-11-05 20:04
  The lann table for needles is odd
  K needles would refer to thousand needles but after that its confusing what refers to what
  Some of it says normal but thousand needles is a smash skill
  Even without thousand needle skill it was still a smash
  Edit: I think i get it now
  k needle normal refers to a thousand needle with no thrusts
  and K needle 0 must either refer to the shock wave after r9 or when you dont have the thousand needle skill
• Bakuryu wrote on 2010-11-05 20:09

  Quote from paladin;205456:

  The lann table for needles is odd
  K needles would refer to thousand needles but after that its confusing what refers to what
  Some of it says normal but thousand needles is a smash skill
  Its odd to me

  
  Yes, that seemed odd to me too. There's one attack in thousand needles that is not affected by any mastery, and another one that is affected by Combat Mastery instead of Smash Mastery.
  But I can't say exactly which is which (animation wise).
• paladin wrote on 2010-11-05 20:17
  Even after my edited post
  It still quite donest make sense
  Why would K needle normal if it was needles minus the thrusts be affected by combat since it says in the desp needles is a smash skill
  Nor do I get K needle 0 which makes no sense either
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-11-05 20:24

  Quote from Bakuryu;205434:

  Alright that helps a lot, thanks. I'm making an Evie to try around a bit with magic arrow.

  
  
  /points to quote in my post
• Bakuryu wrote on 2010-11-05 20:26
  Thousand Needles #0 is the very first attack it does when you press right click after four normal attacks.
  Now, I never played Lann for longer than 5 minutes, but I believe you start doing continuous thrusts after that? How many thrusts do you make? If I understand the korean table correctly, 5?
  After that is the r9 addition which could be #5. I'm not sure what the normal one is exactly
  "사우전드 니들(추가 일반 공격)"
• Arsik wrote on 2010-11-05 20:30
  You can make as many thrusts as you have Stamina, 10SP per thrust, meaning like 11 times if you want to do the finisher.
• Bakuryu wrote on 2010-11-05 20:39
  Alright, after looking around some more I think I understand this Lann thing.
  After thrusting you can make another attack, the damage of that attack depends on how many thrusts you made.
  "-thurst-" percentile is the damage that each thrust does, the attack that follows the thrusts has a percentile of:
  0,08 if one thrust was made
  0.096 if two were made
  ETC, with the maximum thrust affecting damage is the fifth, after that it doesn't increase damage any longer.
  "-normal-" is the attack obtained at r9. Which apparently is affected by combat mastery instead of smash (and it's even done with left click instead of right)
  
  
  I'm gonna edit the image and add info about this.
  
  
  edit: kai, edited
  And heretic, seems like you were correct.
  added Staff Evie table.
• Immie wrote on 2010-11-05 22:47
  I think you have it about right now, but, uh, does K Needles #0 really has 0.64 percentile? That's more than a fully charged stigma hammer. Looks like a misplaced decimal point. :P