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Kazuni wrote on 2010-05-01 08:08
Quote from Syrphid;24300:
Morally wrong because they do not conform to your aesthetic whims?
He's happy, she's happy. Where the prob.
The problem is whether the kid'll be happy after his or her classmates find out about their parents.
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Chockeh wrote on 2010-05-01 08:13
This is almost just like a manga called Usagi Drop, though the manga is really good :D.
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Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-01 08:16
Quote from Syrphid;24300:
Morally wrong because they do not conform to your aesthetic whims?
He's happy, she's happy. Where the prob.
1) It's gross
2) It's gross
3) Yes it doesn't conform to my likings but that isnt why I'm hating. I'm hating cause incest period is wrong, you should never love your family that much O_o;;; Just f-ed imo
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Syrphid wrote on 2010-05-01 08:17
Quote from Kazuni;24303:
The problem is whether the kid'll be happy after his or her classmates find out about their parents.
That's unfortunate. However, I've seen far worst parents. S/he'll get a lot of yo mamas, so what.
I hope that I would have the courage to pursue my life without giving any weight to immature jokes from elementary students who probably haven't even been born yet. Brave couple.
It's that gut reaction of "disgusting" and "morally wrong" that causes this problem in the first place.
Quote from bradstrt;24315:
1) It's gross
2) It's gross
3) Yes it doesn't conform to my likings but that isnt why I'm hating. I'm hating cause incest period is wrong, you should never love your family that much O_o;;; Just f-ed imo
Yeah, the world has too much love. Someone's gotta compensate.
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Cannibal wrote on 2010-05-01 08:19
Really, it's not ok. It's disgusting. I don't care who you are. They are related, by blood. She's the reason why he's alive--she and her partner conceived his mother, who had him, and she has sex and is planning to raise a child with him. THAT IS NOT OK.
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Chockeh wrote on 2010-05-01 08:19
I'm siding with Syrphid on this one, though I still don't like the idea ._.
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Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-01 08:21
Fact is the mom is gonna die soon, I mean shes 72!!! She could basically drop at any point (I'm being serious). Then the grandson is gonna be all alone with a child and he is gonna have to fully support him/her. Probably gonna end up with his parents and the whole social situation with the kid is gonna be horrible! They are gonna get made fun of sooo freaking bad. The family too.
Ok so Syrphid put it this way. Would you ever have an intimate relationship with anyone in your family? And why or why not?
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Syrphid wrote on 2010-05-01 08:34
Quote from Saani;24318:
Really, it's not ok. It's disgusting. I don't care who you are. They are related, by blood. She's the reason why he's alive--she and her partner conceived his mother, who had him, and she has sex and is planning to raise a child with him. THAT IS NOT OK.
So? We're all related by blood. I'm probably your great-grandmother's 5th cousin 4 times removed or something.
Quote from bradstrt;24321:
Fact is the mom is gonna die soon, I mean shes 72!!! She could basically drop at any point (I'm being serious). Then the grandson is gonna be all alone with a child and he is gonna have to fully support him/her. Probably gonna end up with his parents and the whole social situation with the kid is gonna be horrible! They are gonna get made fun of sooo freaking bad. The family too.
Ok so Syrphid put it this way. Would you ever have an intimate relationship with anyone in your family? And why or why not?
You could die tomorrow, does that mean you can't start a relationship? Do you have a problem with 2 old people marrying?
You don't think I practice what I preach? I don't see anything inherently wrong with incest. I would if I felt it was the right thing to do.
It seems to me that you are just saying what you hear others say. I don't see any legit reason to reject incest, and apparently neither do you. Gut reaction is never a legitimate reason.
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Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-01 08:46
I have standards and they don't include getting intimate with my family in that way. I don't see the good in it, and I find it disturbing. If it floats your boat though o_o;;;; I just get weird-ed out by it. I could never imaging ever liking incest.
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Chockeh wrote on 2010-05-01 08:48
Well this turned into a debate of something like Love Conquers All vs. Society's Morals...
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Kurezan wrote on 2010-05-01 08:48
Thats.. really... really messed up.
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Syrphid wrote on 2010-05-01 08:50
Quote from bradstrt;24342:
I have standards and they don't include getting intimate with my family in that way. I don't see the good in it, and I find it disturbing. If it floats your boat though o_o;;;; I just get weird-ed out by it. I could never imaging ever liking incest.
So you have no legit reason, you're just lashing out at people arbitrarily.
Incest is a specific form of love. Consider this,
Quote from bradstrt;24342:
I have standards and they don't include getting intimate with anyone in that way. I don't see the good in it, and I find it disturbing. If it floats your boat though o_o;;;; I just get weird-ed out by it. I could never imaging ever loving.
Can you tell me how incest is so different from other forms of love?
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Chockeh wrote on 2010-05-01 08:55
Quote from Syrphid;24351:
Can you tell me how incest is so different from other forms of love?
Not much difference, just causes awkwardness in the family (Depends) and society doesn't accept it. PEER PRESSURE :<
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Syrphid wrote on 2010-05-01 09:00
Quote from Chocklitshop;24361:
Not much difference, just causes awkwardness in the family (Depends) and society doesn't accept it. PEER PRESSURE :<
Yeah, but, it's love. Have you ever felt it? I haven't completely lost my mind over someone, but I imagine that when the other person loves you too, it's the greatest feeling in the world.
People should just suck it up and deal. I think if the article wasn't so biased against the couple I would have smiled, reading about them. If they truly love each other, I'm glad they're moving forward together. It's sad that so many other people would hate on something so beautiful.
I'm sure I'd find it really weird too if people in my family hooked up, but honestly, if it all works out, I'd just be happy that they're happy.
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Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-01 09:01
I'm not lashing out, you just keep bringing back an argument cause you don't like my point of view. And my reasons are perfectly legit. You can't tell me otherwise. If I feel a certain way that's different from yours doesn't mean my opinion is not legit. Also since its a majority opinion doesn't mean I think that way CAUSE it's a majority and I'm trying to fit in. Don't get me confused and judge me off such a small amount of words. Incest is different then other forms of love in only one fact you are immediately related to them through blood. Yes we are all technically related through a huge "family tree" consisting of trillions of people connected over millions hell... billions of years (weren't we just a lil worm first? obviously not religious :I), but were so diversified and separate from one another which makes us not family or related (outside of us being humans).
Incest is "the crime of sexual intercourse, cohabitation, or marriage between persons within the degrees of consanguinity or affinity wherein marriage is legally forbidden. " -dictionary.com
A crime.... its a crime for a reason ya know? Although it might just be a crime cause its not majorly approved of, still a crime but this is besides the point.
Family is "any group of persons closely related by blood, all those persons considered as descendants of a common progenitor. "-dictionary.com
Progenitor (if you don't know) is "a biologically related ancestor"-dictionary.com