Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;24801:
it's not even a palm
and wow,
Syrphid, you love to argue against the cat owo
can the cat say your right just to get pettings?
Hey, nothing against the forum cat. I just raise my voice when I feel I need to :)
Quote from tink;24944:
wow, seriously?
Nice way to contradict yourself. I'm aware you said if it worked out you'd be happy, but your initial reaction would be to get weirded out.. like a lot of the posters on this thread. Since you seem to be so accepting of incest, tell me why you'd find it really weird. After all, you DO think it's no different than any other form of love :)
No, you didn't make a point here, you're just being ---
by the way, I personally don't agree with incest but not because the majority of these posters don't
:barf:
I am weirded out because I am not immune to social prejudices. This does not mean that I act on my arbitrary and hateful gut reactions. I feel it is gross, but I know it is right. I support them, even if I would never do this myself.
Brad argued that the marriage was immoral because the grandma would die early. My point countered that nicely, I fail to understand why I am a smartass who failed to make a point. Perhaps you could elaborate??
Also, maybe you also care to elaborate on your position. Currently I interpret your departing line as "I think it's wrong but I don't want to state why because I can't."
Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;25292:
The cat wonders what makes the relationship "okay" to the two.
Is this just lust?
What makes
any relationship ok?
Quote from Chocklitshop;25314:
To me it's like the grandma is replacing the man's mother and the grandma just want's to ''live'' before she's gone.
That was my very, very first impression too. However, this is baseless gossip, hurtful and demeaning and absolutely unneeded. I try not to judge people if that requires assuming significant things like "there is obviously no love in that relationship", because after all, how do you know? What if they are truly soulmates?
Brad,
I understand that my responses to you have been rather hostile. Let me cool down and tell you how I see things.
You argue that incest is bad. You support your position thusly,
1) It's gross.
2) It goes against your standards.
3) Bad genetics for baby
4) Close blood marriage is immoral
5) Little school kids will make fun of the kid
6) Grandma will die early
I respond thusly,
1) Irrelevant, gross has no bearing on morality.
2) Your standards are irrelevant and arbitrary. You have given no reason for others to accept your standard. In fact, you have given no reason for YOU to accept your own standard. It's just there, just like other forms of societal prejudices. Hate crimes, xenophobia, racism. No one can justify them, yet they exist because people feel like perpetuating pointlessly hateful traditions.
3) As Chiri said, worse legal combinations exist. Also, worse dysfunctional couples exist. I'd rather be raised by this couple, than by an abusive father and a useless mother.
4) Prove it.
5) This is so insignificant you seem to have forgotten this argument. To think that you would let your adult life be governed by little kids.
6) Who died and made you one of the Fates?
As it stands you have failed to address ANY of my responses, which means all of my responses have successfully countered all of your reasons, which means you currently have an unsupported position.
*edit, also pt 3 is irrelevant since the baby is being made w/a surrogate mother