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Wasbewwi wrote on 2011-01-05 02:43
I had a friend in the Mari Server.
We met when I first started playing Mabinogi, when I was in my low level noob days, and still am, but that's not the problem.
We had done all sort of things together, such as shadow missioning.
After that, around now; I needed help on G9 and asked him to help. He said yes and we went to Tail stonehenge.
The wiki said 12:00 AM - 3:00 AM, and the time was waaay before that; So I said: Hey, wanna friendly 1% duel? He agreed, and we went on. I had used the 'allow pets' option, and we started the duel.
After a while, I had killed his pet werewolf, and he was furious. He used mirage and all sorts of attacks. In the end, I died. I guess I was mad and I cried (yes, yes I just said that) and I was shouting STOP STOP STOP STOP a million times cause of 12:00 and it was around 2:20 when I kept shouting stop it, why are you doing this? His answer was revenge. I did not believe it, but I died. I asked him why? He said he was 'effing' around.
He said stop QQing. My win is 12-6 now, I believe. A loss isn't just anything you joke around with. It's the pride that is behind those losses and wins. I won those 12 by my own skills. I didn't need to cheat, but by using mirage missile. I don't know; the tables have turned against what I think is right and wrong in a duel.
I want to ask you. Is it right or wrong to use mirage arrow in a duel, and who's right, and who's wrong?
I want to hear your opinion, because right now--
I'm heart broken to hear that he would betray our friendship for the cause of effing around...
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Malogg wrote on 2011-01-05 02:54
Get some common sense. Jeeze. O.o
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gentrone wrote on 2011-01-05 03:01
I wouldn't say it's wrong to use mirage missile in a duel. However, your friend is an asshole because he didn't let you finish your quest.
Just move on or try to talk about it some other time. Then again, I choose my friends more carefully and don't rely on people very often.
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Wasbewwi wrote on 2011-01-05 03:05
He blocked me and then walked away D;
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Mabbi wrote on 2011-01-05 03:07
Quote from DarkLord7;276554:
Get some common sense. Jeeze. O.o
There's no reason to be rude, the OP was in no way at fault to this. He's even new to the game, cut him some slack.
@Wasbewwi: It's usually common courtesy not to use mirage missile while in a PvP, and even if someone does, everyone's at risk of getting infected so it's generally not a wise move.
To me, I think getting angry because his dog died is a rather idiotic reason to get mad, (it's not like it's dead forever e__e) to me he doesn't sound like the friend for you. I think the dog was just a reason to win a PvP with you. Taking advantage of that fact that you're a lower level.
Talk to him, see what he says. If he's still I jerk. Get a new friend, I hate to say it, but it's true. Believe me, there are pleantly more on people mabi that have feathers to ress their dead pets with...
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EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-01-05 03:09
Choose your friends more wisely.
As for the duel itself, Mirage Missile is supposedly fair game. Just FH that person back. If you can, do an infinite FH on them and laugh.
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Wasbewwi wrote on 2011-01-05 03:21
I don't have a good rank FH, only f D;
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EienNoTsubasa wrote on 2011-01-05 03:30
I know where you're coming from, but I think once you realize that it's simply a game, the losses aren't so bad. I've been beaten in duels by fair and "unfair" tactics. I've been mirage missiled, I've been poisoned, fhed, and the like. But once you realize that it doesn't really matter all that much and it's just a game, the lack of honor and courtesy on your friend's part wouldn't be as painful. As Endless said, just fh the guy right back. Elves generally have lower defense and hp than the other two races, if I remember correctly.
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Ailyene wrote on 2011-01-05 03:32
All I can say is once again...
PVP brings on the drama. =[
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Ryoko wrote on 2011-01-05 03:47
Well PvP tends to often break at times...Most people can't follow rules. So if someone betrays you because of that, then it's wrong, in my opinion.
Plus, you weren't the one fighting back with those types of things like they were, so it obviously shows how much he cared for his pixels more than a friendship. It shows who's your friend or not, I suppose...
Wherever there's PvP, there's QQing, and drama so I suppose let it go. It'll happen a lot in the game when you encounter people too senseless to care about their friends. Blocking you and just walking away from the situation is an immature way to apologize much. If he did that, then it's his loss.
Plus, if he was going to get all angry about his pet, then why did he agree to that rule in the first place ? Like easily, you could've revived it, and even healed it after...Some people like that in this game care about their pixels a little too much for them to concentrate on what really matters. Just don't rely on everyone to obey the rules everytime in a duel or anything, since you never can trust anyone fully online not knowing what they'd plan to do.
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Kazuni wrote on 2011-01-05 04:04
Quote from Wasbewwi;276524:
After a while, I had killed his pet werewolf, and he was furious. He used mirage and all sorts of attacks. In the end, I died. I guess I was mad and I cried (yes, yes I just said that) and I was shouting STOP STOP STOP STOP a million times cause of 12:00 and it was around 2:20 when I kept shouting stop it, why are you doing this? His answer was revenge. I did not believe it, but I died. I asked him why? He said he was 'effing' around.
He said stop QQing. My win is 12-6 now, I believe. A loss isn't just anything you joke around with. It's the pride that is behind those losses and wins. I won those 12 by my own skills. I didn't need to cheat, but by using mirage missile. I don't know; the tables have turned against what I think is right and wrong in a duel.
I want to ask you. Is it right or wrong to use mirage arrow in a duel, and who's right, and who's wrong?
I want to hear your opinion, because right now--
I'm heart broken to hear that he would betray our friendship for the cause of effing around...
The whole thing doesn't even sound like a big deal to me. So you lost your win/lose record. Whatever. If you want to lose a friend over that, in a way, you're doing the same thing he did.
If you're going to hold pride in PvP, good luck in mabi - there're going to be a ton of people in the future who will upset you if this has got you crying. Honestly, I don't even see this as "betrayal". Yes, he was somewhat wrong to use mirage, but you were also wrong to make a big deal out of it. Brush it off and keep on playing. If you talk it out, you'll only become better friends.
Letting a small thing like that come between you when you've been friends for a while is silly.
Mind you, I'm taking your story with a grain of salt, considering when people post things like this it's usually pretty biased. I don't believe he "betrayed" you or was completely wrong.
Reading this whole thing, it's just overdramatized, imo.
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NewbieNub wrote on 2011-01-05 04:06
Quote from Wasbewwi;276524:
I had a friend in the Mari Server.
We met when I first started playing Mabinogi, when I was in my low level noob days, and still am, but that's not the problem.
We had done all sort of things together, such as shadow missioning.
After that, around now; I needed help on G9 and asked him to help. He said yes and we went to Tail stonehenge.
The wiki said 12:00 AM - 3:00 AM, and the time was waaay before that; So I said: Hey, wanna friendly 1% duel? He agreed, and we went on. I had used the 'allow pets' option, and we started the duel.
After a while, I had killed his pet werewolf, and he was furious. He used mirage and all sorts of attacks. In the end, I died. I guess I was mad and I cried (yes, yes I just said that) and I was shouting STOP STOP STOP STOP a million times cause of 12:00 and it was around 2:20 when I kept shouting stop it, why are you doing this? His answer was revenge. I did not believe it, but I died. I asked him why? He said he was 'effing' around.
He said stop QQing. My win is 12-6 now, I believe. A loss isn't just anything you joke around with. It's the pride that is behind those losses and wins. I won those 12 by my own skills. I didn't need to cheat, but by using mirage missile. I don't know; the tables have turned against what I think is right and wrong in a duel.
I want to ask you. Is it right or wrong to use mirage arrow in a duel, and who's right, and who's wrong?
I want to hear your opinion, because right now--
I'm heart broken to hear that he would betray our friendship for the cause of effing around...
Implying that people actually cares about your PVP win loss ratio.
Implying that something like that is much more important than your friends.
Implying that PvP = srsbzn.
Your logic, you should go search for it before it goes missing forever.
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Adelynn wrote on 2011-01-05 04:14
I think there's fault on both sides.
Your friend is very immature, and you need to take this less seriously. If your "friend" behaved like that, then you should be glad to not be bothered by someone like that anymore.
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protoman206 wrote on 2011-01-05 04:15
Is this really a friend who makes you wait another 36 minute for killing some useless pet?
I feel sorry for you missing the time, but the pvp record is just some numbers that mean nothing.
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User495 wrote on 2011-01-05 04:22
Quote from Kazuni;276689:
The whole thing doesn't even sound like a big deal to me. So you lost your win/lose record. Whatever. If you want to lose a friend over that, in a way, you're doing the same thing he did.
If you're going to hold pride in PvP, good luck in mabi - there're going to be a ton of people in the future who will upset you if this has got you crying. Honestly, I don't even see this as "betrayal". Yes, he was somewhat wrong to use mirage, but you were also wrong to make a big deal out of it. Brush it off and keep on playing. If you talk it out, you'll only become better friends.
Letting a small thing like that come between you when you've been friends for a while is silly.
Mind you, I'm taking your story with a grain of salt, considering when people post things like this it's usually pretty biased. I don't believe he "betrayed" you or was completely wrong.
Reading this whole thing, it's just overdramatized, imo.
it does seem overdramatized, but the betray I think came from the fact that he made him miss the time for the Mainstream quest (makes him wait another mabi day)
Quote from NewbieNub;276693:
Implying that people actually cares about your PVP win loss ratio.
Implying that something like that is much more important than your friends.
Implying that PvP = srsbzn.
Your logic, you should go search for it before it goes missing forever.
implying that you actually read his post :thumb:
also I can SLIGHTLY understand the pet thing if that pet symbolizes something to him (you know how the most significant things can hold value to different people) say a gift from a loved one, or whatnot, only if that was the case I could understand somewhat, otherwise yeah he's a doosh from your story
everyone is right that you shouldn't take it so seriously, but then again I guess he took it pretty seriously too huh xD