The Royal Tanker!

• Spaghedeity wrote on 2012-05-11 21:32
  If you're on the test server (where I believe adv and credine reforges are sold in npc shops?) then it shouldn't be too hard for you to get five items with level 1 protection, take a video of you putting on four, then putting on a fifth and your protection not changing. :D
• Soushi wrote on 2012-05-11 21:35
  Lol. I don't think they're even sold in NPC anymore... and even if they are, Duncan doesn't sell cheap 10cm diamonds anymore that you can gift for resellable items to make money to buy toolkits from. And making money in test server without that type of methods is a bitch.
  
  And I'm lazy. You're the one who says it's possible, so I don't see why you can't show how. It would be a help for the thread to know for certain, if you really care enough.
• Spaghedeity wrote on 2012-05-11 21:51
  Why would they remove those diamonds? Q_Q How else are you supposed to get an ego to level 50 in a week.
• Soushi wrote on 2012-05-11 21:52

  Quote from Spaghedeity;861444:

  Why would they remove those diamonds? Q_Q How else are you supposed to get an ego to level 50 in a week.

  
  
  I think they only wanted them there for the purpose of testing new ego weapons during that time period. When they're not really wanting you to test new content... it's pretty much like a normal server, except with far more lenient ap/level/training gains. All those nice things are gone until they want them to be tested.
• Spaghedeity wrote on 2012-05-11 21:57
  >:I If it's a test server they should really just have an NPC you can go to to get free ap, and nothing should cost any money or profiency or time. >_>
  
  also, wow this is a derail. :P
• KizuUrei wrote on 2012-05-11 22:40

  Quote from Soushi;861404:

  I would imagine that experience with adv/creidne toolkits during the time that reforges were in testing would be good enough, as well as having a close friend who worked to translate all of the information and resources about reforges that we could not understand would count for something... but oh well, I suppose that's really nothing vs the mighty infallible knowledge that requires no practical experience of spaghetti-sama so I'll just drop it :3

  
  
  no your experience really dosn't meen anything without proof, i don't meen to be meen or anything about it it's just that anyone can say they have experience but showing proof is harder to fake. -shrugs-
  also i'm not saying that i know more, honestly all i know is from the wiki / the reforge guide someone made of this site, but sence you're saying that there is something(total reforge cap) that isn't mentioned by anyone/thing else(that i know of) the burden of proof falls on you in the same way that it falls on religius people and not agnostic people.
• Transcendence wrote on 2012-05-11 22:52
  Updated!
• Transcendence wrote on 2012-05-14 02:03
  Updated with reforges!
• Transcendence wrote on 2012-05-24 00:35
  Updated guide with fixed reforges.
• December wrote on 2012-05-25 07:24
  A little confused by your "showdown" at the bottom, the tanker's shield is Oblivion Colonel, but above you have Guardian Colonel?
  
  I'm curious whether it is possible to get a human character to 100% protection, NX Pot gives +5 prot, Magic Music score "Bodyguard, My First Love" gives +7, champion another +6, Sprite Pet Unification Bonus +2(?).... if one could push protection to 100, wings of eclipse makes literally invincibility.
• Transcendence wrote on 2012-06-03 01:02

  Quote from December;872618:

  A little confused by your "showdown" at the bottom, the tanker's shield is Oblivion Colonel, but above you have Guardian Colonel?
  
  I'm curious whether it is possible to get a human character to 100% protection, NX Pot gives +5 prot, Magic Music score "Bodyguard, My First Love" gives +7, champion another +6, Sprite Pet Unification Bonus +2(?).... if one could push protection to 100, wings of eclipse makes literally invincibility.

  
  
  Oh, I replaced Guardian because it only boosted defense and not protection. Of course ideally, teh ultimate tanker would have maxed out defense and protection, but I added in Oblivion because the +10 max seemed more worthwhile.
• Transcendence wrote on 2012-07-31 05:05
  Updated for G16S2.
• KizuUrei wrote on 2012-09-02 22:51
  ok so i've been doing some math based purly on the numbers you gave in the showdown section and it seems like , at least in a 5% dual, that the tanker has the advantage.
  
  giant vs giant
  
  berserker
  max:778 X 6 for smash = 4668 X 1.222 for the elemental reforges (tell me if i'm doing this wrong) = 5704 X .05 for the 5% dual = 285 -78 for the tank's defence =207 X .37 for the tank's 63 protection = 77 damage to the tanker
  
  the berserker has 132% crit but the tanker has 63 prot or -126% crit leaving the berserker with 6% crit
  
  tanker
  max: 470 + 35 for penetration = 505 X 1.16 for penetration (tell me if i'm doing this wrong too)= 586 X 7.2 for smash = 4218 X 1.111 for elemental reforge = 4686 X .05 for 5% dual = 234 -25 for berserker's deffence = 209 X .88 for berserkers protection = 184 damage to the berserker(edit: someone told me that penetration takes affect at the same time at the enemy's deffence and protection, if that's true that would bring the tankers damage up to 205)
  
  tankers crit is 129 but the berserkers 12 protection, or -24% crit, brings that down to 105% wich is capped at 30%
  
  and i realise it's kinda unfair to compair their smashes sence one of them is useing a 2H and the other is dual wielding, but i don't want to go threw the truble of figuring out how much max the berserker would have with a 2H.
  
  tldr~
  so.. not only does the tank do more damage (184>77), but it crits more often as well(30%>6%).
  i'm curius as to what their crit damages would be on each other (something tells me berserker will do more) but i'm too lazy for that at the moment.(edit: the berserker would do around 280 damage and the tanker does around 500 damage.. meening the tanker still does better(a lot better if to take into account that the tanker will crit more often and 500 damg in a dual is a death sentence))
  
  EDIT: and at the OP, i found an es you might want to add to the clothing + acc set, splendorous +15 hp +1 deffence and +5 will. it dosn't give protection, but it helps in other ways, although it meens geting another nao es. :/
  also you could use burg bear on the shield for one more prot, but that does lower deffence by 3(you can also put it on the wepon, but you'll lose lots of damage i supose)
• KizuUrei wrote on 2012-09-02 23:00
  sorry for duble post