MABINATION SMALL QUESTIONS THREAD

• Animefreak97 wrote on 2011-02-05 07:25

  Quote from Zatrox;320874:

  Q: What's the wait time between switching Goddess powers/alliances?

  
  Wiki says: Affiliation change costs 5 Holy Water of Lymilark and can be done as often as desired.
  
  Question: If there is an item eg. Potion Kit for 1k when you go Giant-allied it becomes 920g from Kirine so does this mean when I feed the 920g version to my ego it would be 900-999 or will it be the original price of 1k.
• Chihaya wrote on 2011-02-05 16:21

  Quote from Zatrox;320874:

  Q: What's the wait time between switching Goddess powers/alliances?

  
  
  One week in real life, IIRC.
  
  

  Quote from radionoise;319934:

  Crash Shot ignores protection for calculating critical chance, just like Windmill... and it's fairly easy to cap critical with smash/magnum on just about every hardmode dungeon and shadow mission outside of Alby Adv. Hardmode (even then you can still cap crit there with those skills, just takes a dedicated enchant setup).
  
  Flame Burst does, Water Cannon doesn't.
  
  Rule of thumb: If it's an AoE skill, it's 99% likely that it ignores protection for calculating critical chance (unless the skill doesn't deal critical damage at all, like Shock).

  
  
  Crash Shot is rather ineffective, in my opinion, since it
  1) has a slow aiming time, and
  2) there are possibilities of missing.
  Furthermore, Crash Shot doesn't aggro lock for multiaggro situations.
  Finally, correct me if I'm wrong, but Natural Shield of some monsters will negate the stun created by CS, does it not?
  
  As for the alchemy skills, I believe all attacks, even alchemy, has their damage reduced by protection.
  As for AoE, it's easy to see even with windmill that if an AoE skill hits a critical hit, all other monsters within range also receive a critical hit, so AoE attacks usually ignore protection for critical chance
  
  

  Quote from Animefreak97;321257:

  Question: If there is an item eg. Potion Kit for 1k when you go Giant-allied it becomes 920g from Kirine so does this mean when I feed the 920g version to my ego it would be 900-999 or will it be the original price of 1k.

  
  
  The Item value will still be 1k, and will be treated as so when fed to your ego.
  
  EDIT: Why do a 1k item? that's a waste IMO =<
  *Hint* Try buying the potion kits on Wednesday... The prices are cut even more ;D
  I'm guessing you have the Female Sword ego, since I see Potion Kits coming out... I did sandals from Malcolm or Number signs from Price. Hope this extra tidbit helps ^^
• radionoise wrote on 2011-02-05 22:09

  Quote from Chihaya;321438:

  
  Crash Shot is rather ineffective, in my opinion, since it
  1) has a slow aiming time, and
  2) there are possibilities of missing.
  Furthermore, Crash Shot doesn't aggro lock for multiaggro situations.
  Finally, correct me if I'm wrong, but Natural Shield of some monsters will negate the stun created by CS, does it not?
  
  As for the alchemy skills, I believe all attacks, even alchemy, has their damage reduced by protection.
  As for AoE, it's easy to see even with windmill that if an AoE skill hits a critical hit, all other monsters within range also receive a critical hit, so AoE attacks usually ignore protection for critical chance

  
  
  Crash Shot has as much damage potential as Windmill, if not much higher due to its larger range... Aim speed is instantaneous if you shoot it at point blank, and the animation does have invincibility frames in which you can load another Crash Shot or a defensive Windmill (you can even execute another CS faster than you can execute another WM). If you miss, you can also load and aim Magnum/Range during the animation.
  
  As for Natural Shield, you shouldn't use range against it in the same manner that you shouldn't use melee against Heavy Stander... but Crash Shot does push back the initial target even if it has NS 3.
  
  All skillsets have equal viability in the most difficult of dungeons, so it's not really necessary to discard everything that isn't Windmill as even that can be outclassed in countless situations by more appropriate skills for that given task. Flame Burst can also be very powerful, so can intermediate magic and you can trade safety for unparalleled DPS if you spam Crash Shot at close range. Skills like magnum and smash can very well effectively crit anywhere with the right enchants, and skills such as Heat Buster and Hailstorm can do devastating damage even though they might not be able to crit at all in Hardmode dungeons.
• Animefreak97 wrote on 2011-02-05 23:21

  Quote from Chihaya;321438:

  
  The Item value will still be 1k, and will be treated as so when fed to your ego.
  
  EDIT: Why do a 1k item? that's a waste IMO =<
  *Hint* Try buying the potion kits on Wednesday... The prices are cut even more ;D
  I'm guessing you have the Female Sword ego, since I see Potion Kits coming out... I did sandals from Malcolm or Number signs from Price. Hope this extra tidbit helps ^^

  
  I didn't want a 1k item....When you get a giant discount it goes down to 920 which is between 900-999. And no I do not have a female sword, I have a male sword. Potion kits give me strength so if it was treated as 920 gold it would be the best item beside the kit on wednesday which is 950. So now I'm stuck with 7 signs or Vest and Pants set except for Wednesday.
• chaolin wrote on 2011-02-08 02:24
  Best way to grind for 2 mil? I've heard good things about holy water + firewood spam.
• Zack wrote on 2011-02-08 02:29

  Quote from chaolin;325124:

  Best way to grind for 2 mil? I've heard good things about holy water + firewood spam.

  
  
  Hunt for EJ3, IS2, FB10's, AR8's ect. Rabbie Basic is also good for fomor scrolls but a bit slow.
• chaolin wrote on 2011-02-08 03:44

  Quote from Zackeh;325133:

  Hunt for EJ3, IS2, FB10's, AR8's ect. Rabbie Basic is also good for fomor scrolls but a bit slow.

  
  
  Which one is the easiest with r1 windmill? I would assume EJ3...
• Sunureu13 wrote on 2011-02-08 19:08
  IS2.
• chaolin wrote on 2011-02-08 20:09

  Quote from Sunureu13;325957:

  IS2.

  
  
  Domo!
• Klaius wrote on 2011-02-09 00:03
  Can elite passes be traded?
• Zatrox wrote on 2011-02-09 02:50
  How much crit will we -really- need in the future? i.e. what's the highest (recorded) protection on a regularly fought mob. With a Wing Bow I found that I can hit 180% or so, assuming someone figures out where Static ES comes from
• Combusken wrote on 2011-02-09 04:01
  Do you still lose all your Mana if you switch between two wands?
• radionoise wrote on 2011-02-09 04:05

  Quote from Zatrox;326686:

  How much crit will we -really- need in the future? i.e. what's the highest (recorded) protection on a regularly fought mob. With a Wing Bow I found that I can hit 180% or so, assuming someone figures out where Static ES comes from

  
  
  Static is either not implemented or no one ever found it... but you won't regularly need higher than 170%+ critical unless you constantly spam Alby Advanced HM.
  
  I think 110~130% is fine for most HM mobs save for special bosses, and 120~140% seems to work for most elite mobs without sacrificing too much damage. You should be able to easily reach 130% critical with a damage oriented setup thanks to Restored enchant alone (max roll Oasis on footwear also works if you're willing to give up some damage).
  
  Personally, I capped my critical rate at 130% with a Highlander Long Bow, ~140% with a regular Long Bow and ~160% with a Wing Bow to ensure I can get the most damage possible at those critical checkpoints... and I plan to keep Oasis Elegant/Raven greaves in the bank should I ever need an extra 10~15% more crit on either of those setups.
  
  As for mobs with the highest protection... that would be Fomor Attack boss (120% protection until hit by rusted swords LOL), Ghosts (~80%), some SM bosses in HM through Elite (49~74%) and Alby Adv HM mobs which are just a total pain :c
• Fyois wrote on 2011-02-09 04:35

  Quote from Combusken;326767:

  Do you still lose all your Mana if you switch between two wands?

  
  
  Yes. Switching wands still counts as un-equiping it.
  
  

  Quote from Klaius;326333:

  Can elite passes be traded?

  
  
  No, they're like regular dungeon passes.
• chaolin wrote on 2011-02-09 08:17
  Does one receive journal points for completing generation 7?
  
  Edit: What about collection books?