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• Phunkie wrote on 2011-02-04 19:34
  I believe that we humans are impacting this planet we live in negatively if we don't figure out how much damage we're doing and what furthers effects will this damage have on the long run.
  
  Believing or not believing in global warming though is no reason whatsoever though to not conserve energy or not to recycle or be a little more "green"; saves you power and money to put incandescent light bulbs up instead of those other ones.
• Cynic wrote on 2011-02-04 20:23

  Quote from Magenera;320145:

  Mankind on their best day couldn't beat nature with global warming. Earth been heating and cooling with out man interference. We just don't know the damage we are doing which is a lot harder to say than we causing global warming. We are contributing to global warming just like every thing else on this planet. So no, it really nothing more than a pointless scare to a real problem.

  
  
  Not really. Global warming is one of the biggest issues humanity faces.
  Humans contribute to it most primarily by the use of cars and burning fossil fuel. Nature doesn't do anything (unless you count volcanic eruptions, which is not but a natural process).. why do you think the ozone layer was so untouched until humans came along? I would love to hear how nature contributes to it more so than humans.
• Magenera wrote on 2011-02-04 20:53

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  Not really. Global warming is one of the biggest issues humanity faces.
  Humans contribute to it most primarily by the use of cars and burning fossil fuel. Nature doesn't do anything (unless you count volcanic eruptions, which is not but a natural process).. why do you think the ozone layer was so untouched until humans came along? I would love to hear how nature contributes to it more so than humans.

  
  
  You mean besides Earth cycling from heating and cooling periods since it came out of being nothing but volcanoes. We could look at the poll caps and how the tend to flip in periods. We can mention increase or decrease in solar radiation over time. We can also look at Volcanoes erupting. Heavenly bodies hitting the Earth. Change in the ocean currents. Hell look at Venus. Not a human on the planet and it more like global melting. Mankind likes to think that we can harm the earth. But the only thing we can do is harm the biosphere. Nothing more, nothing less. Global Warming isn't the problem, it won't go away, it will continue. Your talk of damaging the Ozone layer has more to do with pollution and less to do with CO2 emissions. Something that can be credited to most life on this planet. So I say it again, global warming isn't the issue, it is pollution and the growing energy crisis we are about to hit.
  
  In fact to prove a point, few hundred years ago, we had a little ice that contributes more to some of the greatest moments in history. American revolution, French revolution, the potato famine, Napoleon getting his ass kicked by the Russians. Guess what happen before the little Ice Age, Earth reach a peak that was higher than today in CO2 emissions. Till this date we have yet to reach that point. Global Warming is natural as a fart.
• Time wrote on 2011-02-04 20:56

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  In fact to prove a point, few hundred years ago, we had a little ice that contributes more to some of the greatest moments in history. American revolution, French revolution, the potato famine, Napoleon getting his ass kicked by the Russians. Guess what happen before the little Ice Age, Earth reach a peak that was higher than today in CO2 emissions. Till this date we have yet to reach that point. Global Warming is natural as a fart.

  
  
  Global Warming doesnt just mean no cold temperatures, which is what your Napoleon thing seems to imply, which is why I thought it was being referred to more as Climate Change now.
• Magenera wrote on 2011-02-04 21:03

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  Global Warming doesnt just mean no cold temperatures, which is what your Napoleon thing seems to imply, which is why I thought it was being referred to more as Climate Change now.

  
  
  That is Global Cooling, which happens after Global warming. It is a cycle, that goes on and on. I was talking about the little Ice age that happened after Earth reach it peak in Global Warming and started to cool down. Which is why I keep on saying that global warming isn't man's fault. Or the fact that mankind cause global warming and all that jazz. We give ourselves way to much credit for something natural.
• Time wrote on 2011-02-04 21:07

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  That is Global Cooling, which happens after Global warming. It is a cycle, that goes on and on. I was talking about the little Ice age that happened after Earth reach it peak in Global Warming and started to cool down. Which is why I keep on saying that global warming isn't man's fault. Or the fact that mankind cause global warming and all that jazz. We give ourselves way to much credit for something natural.

  
  Ah, okay I see, but while Global Warming itself may be natural, is it not possible that we are contributing a good amount to it? Like, increasing its power, I mean, we are a large force on this planet.
• Magenera wrote on 2011-02-04 21:18

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  Ah, okay I see, but while Global Warming itself may be natural, is it not possible that we are contributing a good amount to it? Like, increasing its power, I mean, we are a large force on this planet.

  
  
  Contributing to global warming is what all life does. Mankind taking the blame is a joke for fear mongering. Nature can and has proven she can deal more than what man kind can do. Which is why keep saying pollution and the looming (forgot about that word) energy crisis is a main concern that should be taken action against. Let nature take her course, which would be Hurricanes. Sorry Madame Nature is a bit of a dominatrix.