New Exploit?

• Trigger wrote on 2010-05-16 01:03

  Quote from Juno;36523:

  That would be speculation into how it's done~
  
  If you're going to try to out it to the public Mabination isn't the place to do so.

  
  
  Frankly I think that rule needs to be lifted, but w/e. Modifications are and always will be a HUGE part of PC gaming, legit or not, and arbitrarily forbidding the discussion of their names, locations, and workings is just putting a damper on the community imho. The same could be said of "exploits". Forbid the discussion of "gamebreaking" mods and exploits perhaps, but not letting us discuss simple and harmless stuff like PMG edits is going too far.
  
  Funny how everyone is up in arms about this but no one says a thing about people standing on the river spamming magic on the mobs for easy levels. If anything, the riverwalking glitch is easier and faster.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2010-05-16 01:14

  Quote from Intex;36561:

  -Exploit Exploit-
  
  Anyways, why does NA mabinogi always have so many glitches?

  
  
  Because KR test server actually catches them and Hosts an event to catch bugs
  
  One of the bugs that i had to deal with that summoning golems gave INFINITE (yes read carefully) Nao Bomb +'s
  Alby adv Hardmode was a piece of cake.
• Phanterz wrote on 2010-05-16 01:22

  Quote from Jahrakal;36409:

  Meh, we do not have definite proof that it's an exploit. Too early to judge and build fences around it in my opinion.

  
  
  Then how do you explain untradeable items being dropped? >_<
• Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-05-16 01:53
  Well then, we tried every known method trying to pull the Shadow Crystal out of the mission; Bank Coupon, Pet Pick Up, Trade Window, Temporary Inventories, and apparently, it's not possible just by playing. I'm not saying that mods are evil, but I am saying that some kind of modification, whether interfering with the inbound traffic or not, is causing this.
• Juno wrote on 2010-05-16 02:14
  Yeah, they're using a mod to do it. I know that for sure now.
  
  

  Quote from Trigger:

  Frankly I think that rule needs to be lifted, but w/e. Modifications are and always will be a HUGE part of PC gaming, legit or not, and arbitrarily forbidding the discussion of their names, locations, and workings is just putting a damper on the community imho. The same could be said of "exploits". Forbid the discussion of "gamebreaking" mods and exploits perhaps, but not letting us discuss simple and harmless stuff like PMG edits is going too far.
  
  Funny how everyone is up in arms about this but no one says a thing about people standing on the river spamming magic on the mobs for easy levels. If anything, the riverwalking glitch is easier and faster.

  
  
  You're kind of preaching to the choir here, I've made more threads about mods and glitches than anything else and probably more than most others on the forum. I'm all for discussion, but in the case of one such as this I'd rather not have it ousted into the public especially not here. The rules state that discussion is fine, just not naming locations/methods/etc.
  
  Personally I believe discussion is -very- important. There's strong evidence to suggest that if enough people get their panties in a bunch Nexon takes notice. Therefore having the correct information out there means everything.
  
  As for river glitching, I see people on it all the time. More than once I've missed my target due to a spawn being wiped out that I was counting on. However, there's not enough people affected get enough burning torches in our proverbial mob...so I just take screenshots and sulk down the rest of the river. Not much point letting it bother me any longer than that until there's actually some action I can take about it.
• Trigger wrote on 2010-05-16 05:18

  Quote from Juno;36691:

  You're kind of preaching to the choir here, I've made more threads about mods and glitches than anything else and probably more than most others on the forum. I'm all for discussion, but in the case of one such as this I'd rather not have it ousted into the public especially not here. The rules state that discussion is fine, just not naming locations/methods/etc.
  
  Personally I believe discussion is -very- important. There's strong evidence to suggest that if enough people get their panties in a bunch Nexon takes notice. Therefore having the correct information out there means everything.
  
  As for river glitching, I see people on it all the time. More than once I've missed my target due to a spawn being wiped out that I was counting on. However, there's not enough people affected get enough burning torches in our proverbial mob...so I just take screenshots and sulk down the rest of the river. Not much point letting it bother me any longer than that until there's actually some action I can take about it.

  
  
  So I can't post a link to the best PMG mod of them all, Dark Champion? Seems kinda lame if you ask me, especially when most decent/active players already have basic mods. <_<
  
  Back to the whole Dorren's Request thing...
  
  I say when it comes to mods/exploits/etc., if it doesn't affect you directly, let it go, or whine about it where no one will have to be bothered. This "mod" (which I really suspect is more of a glitch, similar to taking dungeon keys outside dungeons, which has been known to happen on rare occasions) isn't directly affecting anyone in any way except the people who are using/abusing it. Maybe they'll get a bunch of expensive items and make a huge profit off this. The end result is merely more of that expensive item on the market, which lowers demand and therefore prices for everyone. The whole server benefits, while the anti-modders storm the official forums with their whining.
  
  I argued all this before on the official Nexon forum, reasons why complaining about mods or trying to stop mods doesn't help, but only hurts the situation. It's like all those newscasts about sexually explicit video games -- they're only showing it to MORE people, more people who will then become curious and perhaps try to find out what all the hubbub is about.
  
  If people care so much when the game is "broken", they need to shut up about it so as to confine the "damage" to a smaller portion of the player base. I would not have gone around to every contact I have and questioned them about the mechanics of this mod/exploit if it had never been posted here. I may very well end up with a working knowledge of this exploit and be able to use it and spread it to others thanks to rash posting of sensitive information.
  
  And just so you know, when I use the riverwalking glitch, I'm courteous enough to let the actual rafters get their kills, 'cause I'd want the same treatment. <_< I dislike being ks'd just as much as you do.
  
  
  http://forum.nexon.net/Mabinogi/forums/post/4150959.aspx
• Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-05-16 05:37
  ._.
  
  Actually, I was never complaining about it, I was merely curious if anyone else has seen something similar or know exactly how it works. I use mods myself; hell, I've been using them when I played WoW and TF2. I just wanted to put this in front of the forum just to gather opinions, data, and attention. It's not like I'm going to label everyone who does this a terrorist or something. I know you act quite vehemently when talking about mods but you're taking my intentions the wrong way. Just a little curious, is all.
• Alex wrote on 2010-05-16 05:39

  Quote from Kyouriharu;36521:

  Omg, you're that giant who's always afk!

  
  
  Not alwayssssssss xD Just... probably 70% of the time~
• Trigger wrote on 2010-05-16 05:42

  Quote from Kyouriharu;36823:

  ._.
  
  Actually, I was never complaining about it, I was merely curious if anyone else has seen something similar or know exactly how it works. I use mods myself; hell, I've been using them when I played WoW and TF2. I just wanted to put this in front of the forum just to gather opinions, data, and attention. It's not like I'm going to label everyone who does this a terrorist or something. I know you act quite vehemently when talking about mods but you're taking my intentions the wrong way. Just a little curious, is all.

  
  
  Not saying you're complaining; just throwing that out there. It's my pet peeve you know. =P Sorry if I come across as heated. When I start talking about mods I start talking to everyone and no one at the same time.
  
  All I really wish people at large would do is just accept the fact that mods are here to stay and make their choice (use or don't) with logic and without trying to "kill" the people who choose differently. And I wish enough people would cooperate on that and get Nexon's attention like Juno was saying -- enough people with their pants in a knot gets Nexon's attention. If enough people told Nexon "we want to be able to modify our clients within reason" maybe they'd make it legit and nobody would have any real reason to complain anymore. Just my wishful thinking. <_<;; JP servers have "legalized" modding; why shouldn't we?
• Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-05-16 05:49
  Hell, even Blizzard approves modding and they're the most successful gaming company. The only issue is the Nexon Terms of Service, which is strong grounds to some but weak for others.
• Chiri wrote on 2010-05-16 05:58
  I remember back in open beta/G1, I saw some people trading dungeon keys on the floor in Tir. Perhaps this is an exploit that has been long existent, but slightly modified...?
• Trigger wrote on 2010-05-16 06:15

  Quote from Kyouriharu;36833:

  Hell, even Blizzard approves modding and they're the most successful gaming company. The only issue is the Nexon Terms of Service, which is strong grounds to some but weak for others.

  
  
  Just another reason I wish Blizzard ran Mabi, not Nexon. =P
• Saix7 wrote on 2010-05-16 09:00
  A friend managed to find some of these crystals on the ground and we tested if we could use them.
  They fall out of your inventory when you go into the shadow mission.
• Rime wrote on 2010-05-16 09:16
  It's not definitive proof, but I've seen a group of characters who have been going in and out of the stone henge every minute or so. They could be doing something legitimate for all we know, but as far as my familiarity with the game goes, there isn't anything worthwhile that can legitimately acquired within that time frame. Also, there aren't any missions that can be legitimately completed in one minute, even on basic difficulty.
• Taycat wrote on 2010-05-16 09:32
  Just face it.
  
  There's a major hole here that Nexon hasn't figured out/won't change.