The Skill Ideas Thread

• Loopster wrote on 2011-03-25 01:37
  Guys! Just accept that humans are slower but can take more hits, are stronger and can be any combat class with a decent way of doing it.
• MSZShadow wrote on 2011-03-25 01:51

  Quote from Sevian;383443:

  the point of that skill I think has to do with how you're focused completely on 1 enemy so you ignore the other ones, in a sense it could be used for Multiaggro situations

  
  
  In reality, though, it makes more sense that if you ignore another enemy, they can land hits better/etc...
  
  Whereas if you're focused on one enemy, you land hits better, and can withstand theirs better. o _o
  
  
  

  Quote from Sevian;383443:

  a skill that increases running speed Sprint maybe? drains Stamina by a certain amount with use, all races will be equal in speed while using this skill (it should work like Meditation/Chain Cylinder/Mana Shield and it quits when you run out of stam)

  
  
  

  Quote from MSZShadow:

  Electrify:
  A buff cast on a single individual, with small party AoE. Has the effect of increasing running speed. When affected users attack something (for every hit), causes the spell to fire a small lightningbolt at their target(s) for extra minor damage based on the caster's Int/MAtk/etc, while somewhat affected by the power of the blow given by the affected. Does not contribute to down gauge, and will not add extra stun time. Can attack through effects such as freezing from Ice Spear.

  
  
  
  
  

  Quote from Sevian;383443:

  Magic Infusion: Casting magic and I guess, "enchanting" it onto a weapon so that it recieve it's element temporarily and recieves certain affects such as
  Firebolt making the weapon knockback with 1 hit
  Lightning Bolt multiples the stun duration on that weapon
  Ice Bolt increases weapon attack speed
  also animations to go with the effects

  
  
  Reminds me. I had thought of something similar where enchanting weapons/armor with player spells imbues the item with a temporary special skill. The skill would either have to be activated, or would passively activate.
  
  Quick example:
  Infusing a cloth armor with Lightningbolt causes the user to have access to a special skill "Discharge". If being attacked with a melee combo, player may use the skill to stun (with small damage) and retaliate. The special skill would obvoiusly have a cooldown.
  
  Another example:
  Infusing a Slow-speed sword with Ice Spear causes the user to have access to "Ice Blade". Used at the end of a combo, when the enemy is knocked back (Not down), the enemy gets shoved backwards into a series of Ice Blades that are created by the user.
  
  Obviously, these skills would have some limitations, as they would be supplementary.
  Possibly increase the special skill's effects if more than one equipment with the skill imbued is equipped. (Like, Two "Ice Blade" swords shortening the cooldown, and increasing the damage slightly.)
  
  

  Quote from Sevian;383443:

  and random thought, that I think Trinity Staff might eventually be used for "Inter/Adv Magic Fusion" if we get to the point of needing that kind of damage possibly

  
  
  I highly doubt DevCat would ever do that. Bolt Fusion has existed for a very long time -- DevCat just realized it was useless as-is, and made it more usable.
• User495 wrote on 2011-03-25 02:28
  that does make sense, but I think it's more of a "rage" thing or where in combat you get an adrenaline rush so that you take less damage on the enemies you are not focused on killing
  
  o yeah some there are some cool looking things that can be done with Magic Infusion, such as special skills that is active by using it ("ranged melee" if you've played Tales of Symphonia, think of Demon Fang, just thought that'd be cool, these would be skills that cater to hybrids for the most part, cept magic is only a supplement so most of the damage itself would rely on the melee skill set, and affected by INT and STR like Blaze)
  (wasn't sure if that's what you were thinking of when you mentioned that Ice Spear one)
  
  
  and something random just came up
  a later Mainstream that allows you to become part Fomorian so that you can use Alchemy without cylinders (limited to the basic alchemy, though I can't really think of the real limit, let's just set the limit as definitely not Heat Buster, Life Drain, or any AoE Alchemy Skills)
  the mainstream should also require the completion of every Mainstream starting from G9 up to that point (ignoring the thing where you can start a mainstream as long as it's the first chapter) and maybe limit it so that you can only use it in situations similiar to Assault Slash (kinda like a finisher move)
• BizarreJuju wrote on 2011-03-25 03:07
  Instead of making human run faster. We can add a "leap" skill (if noone has mentioned it) where you can jump to a location with a cost of stamina (alot). If you are chasing after mobs, I think you are doing something wrong :V
  
  Personally, I think humans are better off being the slowest race 8D
• Meir wrote on 2011-03-25 12:39

  Quote from BizarreJuju;383535:

  Instead of making human run faster. We can add a "leap" skill (if noone has mentioned it) where you can jump to a location with a cost of stamina (alot). If you are chasing after mobs, I think you are doing something wrong :V
  
  Personally, I think humans are better off being the slowest race 8D

  
  
  My human run track
• MSZShadow wrote on 2011-03-25 12:57

  Quote from Sevian;383492:

  o yeah some there are some cool looking things that can be done with Magic Infusion, such as special skills that is active by using it ("ranged melee" if you've played Tales of Symphonia, think of Demon Fang, just thought that'd be cool, these would be skills that cater to hybrids for the most part, cept magic is only a supplement so most of the damage itself would rely on the melee skill set, and affected by INT and STR like Blaze)
  (wasn't sure if that's what you were thinking of when you mentioned that Ice Spear one)

  
  
  My thought was that Infusion would be used to temporarily grant the user of infused clothes access to supplemental skills. Things used to get out of tight situations, an extra attack/combo filler, passive status boosts, etc.
  
  I feel that the effectiveness of the supplemental skill should be affected by the following:
  ~The infuser's Int/Matk/etc
  ~The infuser's spell ranks (Masteries relevant to said spell, actual spell being infused)
  ~The number of charges (when applicable) of the spell at the time of infusing (5 charges of Thunder would produce more of an effect than 2, etc)
  ~The number of matching infused items.
  ~All of this with a cap level/rank on the skill. I'll just refer to it as level, for now. Let's say the cap level is 10
  
  So, let's say there's a mage that infuses a clothing with Lightningbolt, resulting in Level 3 Discharge skill granted to the person who equips it. If the mage also infuses Lightningbolt on a hat, resulting in a Level 4 Discharge, the person who equips both the clothing and the hat will have access to a Level 7 Discharge. The effectiveness of the skill would be based entirely on the skill of the Infuser. Users of infused equipment would simply be unleashing a spell/effect that was already put in place, so they wouldn't have an effect on how strong it is.
  
  Some limitations that could be added to it are...
  ~The spell only lasts a certain number of uses. Afterwards, the spell loses effect, and will eventually disappear from the equipment altogether. Infusers could possibly attempt spell repairs, but I doubt that would be necessary to implement.
  ~Unleashing the spell would cost Mana, so it wouldn't be free damage.
  ~(Possibly) requires usage of a special tool near Magic Shop/Repair NPCs.
  
  With these limitations, some main damage-dealing spells could actually be allowed. Say...
  
  5 Charges of Fireball on a Staff -> Meteor Storm. Use count: 1~2
  Does tremendous damage in a huge AoE, at the cost of 200 Mana to unleash (With a sizable loading time). User is held in place, holding up the storm throughout the duration of the spell. Any attacks to the user will result in extra damage to the user, as well as ending the spell.
  
  
  Something like that. o-o
• Oizen wrote on 2011-03-25 13:51

  Quote from BizarreJuju;383535:

  Instead of making human run faster. We can add a "leap" skill (if noone has mentioned it) where you can jump to a location with a cost of stamina (alot). If you are chasing after mobs, I think you are doing something wrong :V
  
  Personally, I think humans are better off being the slowest race 8D

  
  
  I really don't see the rationality of it all really.
  
  Idk if humans are slower then elves or giants, I'm going for
  elf>giant>human>most monsters
  
  that leap thing exists, its called assault slash.
• TropicalCat wrote on 2011-03-25 14:54

  Quote from OizenX;383774:

  I really don't see the rationality of it all really.
  
  Idk if humans are slower then elves or giants, I'm going for
  elf>giant>human>most monsters
  
  that leap thing exists, its called assault slash.

  
  
  Humans make the best Solo-dungon/mission race thought, there way more flexable then elfs and giants
  
  Most effeicant skill sets per race(what they can do perfectly in)
  Humans - Melee/range/magic/alch
  Elves - range/magic/alch (Elfs have lower str then humans/giants, they cant use enchant'able two-handers and they cant hold two swords)
  giants - Melee/alch (Giants use more mana then humans and elfs)
  
  but yeah, i know some really good Mage giants and some melee elfs
  But giants will always be better in melee while elfs will always be good archers/mages
  ....Until nexon nerf's us all.....
• Oizen wrote on 2011-03-25 14:58

  Quote from Tropacat;383822:

  Humans make the best Solo-dungon/mission race thought, there way more flexable then elfs and giants
  
  Most effeicant skill sets per race(what they can do perfectly in)
  Humans - Melee/range/magic/alch
  Elves - range/magic/alch (Elfs have lower str then humans/giants, they cant use enchant'able two-handers and they cant hold two swords)
  giants - Melee/alch (Giants use more mana then humans and elfs)
  
  but yeah, i know some really good Mage giants and some melee elfs
  But giants will always be better in melee while elfs will always be good archers/mages
  ....Until nexon nerf's us all.....

  
  What does this have to do with what I said? =/
  
  I don't want to change the order of speed, I want to make humans able to run faster then living boxes.
• TropicalCat wrote on 2011-03-25 15:02

  Quote from OizenX;383823:

  What does this have to do with what I said? =/
  
  I don't want to change the order of speed, I want to make humans able to run faster then living boxes.

  
  
  Im just saying, humans are better, they need a nerf and the nerf was running speed.
• Oizen wrote on 2011-03-25 15:03

  Quote from Tropacat;383826:

  Im just saying, humans are better, they need a nerf and the nerf was running speed.

  
  
  I thought humans just came first, and their running speed was never changed.
  
  You act like Nexon intentionally balanced something.
• TropicalCat wrote on 2011-03-25 15:19

  Quote from OizenX;383828:

  I thought humans just came first, and their running speed was never changed.
  
  You act like Nexon intentionally balanced something.

  
  
  You never know what nexon/devcat will do... :thief:
• Oizen wrote on 2011-03-25 15:22

  Quote from Tropacat;383843:

  You never know what nexon/devcat will do... :thief:

  
  
  Except miserably fail to patch the game correctly.
• TropicalCat wrote on 2011-03-25 15:28

  Quote from OizenX;383848:

  Except miserably fail to patch the game correctly.

  
  
  Agreed
• MSZShadow wrote on 2011-03-25 17:09

  Quote from Tropacat;383822:

  Elves - range/magic/alch (Elfs have lower str then humans/giants, they cant use enchant'able two-handers and they cant hold two swords)

  
  
  I'm going to assume you mean two-handed swords other than Brionac, and not two handed weapons other than Brionac. o _o