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EndlessDreams wrote on 2012-01-05 21:54
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How many giants use lances? How many humans use lances? Who can wear lance + shield? Im not even going to mention the force walk after using the skills since atm its glitched for both races.
I haven't seen lances used by anyone at all except for a few humans and I. There are far more people using AR than lance users. AR buff benefited more people than the actual uses of lances. However, the stats from lance skills benefited both classes. A lot of people ranked the lance skills solely for the stats.
thanks captain obvious, i really didn't knew that
Giants have lower MP capacity and use more mp than elves in terms of magic, what you're doing with magic with an giant an elf can do the same without using that much MP, not the case with alchemy. Sure you can use the higher stamina pools for giants than for elves but then, learn to cypress.
Yea, it was pretty obvious that you forgotten about that since you are too busy focusing on how elf/giant specialized traits is better than humans. The MP usage difference actually makes very little difference when MP pots are common, meditation is buffed, and no mana evaporation.
Is there any reason to play Giant or Elves if Human are better than the stuff that Giant/Elf are supposed to specialized in?
Where did i said humans should match giants or elves on their skills?
What i said is the gap between humans and elves/giants is widening even more. At this point its better to be a range/melee elf hybrid than an melee/range human hybrid
Once again you distorted what i said, I never mentioned humans weren't being buffed at the same time elves and giants were. The issue is the growth rate of each races and how devcat makes humans have the same thing as giants and humans off pity.
This is actually what you said:
"Humans are getting gimped with every update and you don't see us QQing all over the place now do you? "
You sure do QQ alot.
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Cheerios wrote on 2012-01-05 22:21
Quote from EndlessDreams;723958:
This is actually what you said:
"Humans are getting gimped with every update and you don't see us QQing all over the place now do you? "
You sure do QQ alot.
you sure liked that "with every update" didn't you
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Xentaros wrote on 2012-01-05 23:17
Quote from Cheerios;724019:
you sure liked that "with every update" didn't you
ISHYGDDT!
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radionoise wrote on 2012-01-05 23:26
Quote from EndlessDreams;723958:
I haven't seen lances used by anyone at all except for a few humans and I. There are far more people using AR than lance users. AR buff benefited more people than the actual uses of lances. However, the stats from lance skills benefited both classes. A lot of people ranked the lance skills solely for the stats.
In KR more endgame meleers use lances. Secret Penetrating (lol) Knight Lance is the equivalent of ~190 max and then there's an additional 16% damage boost (as well as 2h smash bonus) on top of that. Lets humans windmill for the equivalent of 600+ max raw dual wield damage and smash for the equivalent of 700+ max raw dual wield damage and all that along with other benefits that a 2h weapon/lance has to offer.
Lances and the piercing bonus also become a lot better with NX toolkits, maybe even to the point where they could outshine even the most endgame dual wield.
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Sebbies wrote on 2012-01-06 03:03
Friend wanted me to post his stats:
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He's dual wielding R4 goddess caliburn broads and is using hawk instead of viscount. Also opted out of oblivion dexterity for vine dexterity.
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Remistalk wrote on 2012-01-07 14:14
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Never will I forget the time I accidentally slapped on Water Drop on my Delusional cap when I was looking for a bridge for my Oblivion...
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radionoise wrote on 2012-01-09 06:03
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Missing 0 damage and 0 crit from enchants.
Missing 8 damage and 3 crit from ego.
Missing 6 damage and 3.6 crit from skills.
Missing 11~12 damage from playing at freebirth age instead of ages 12 or 13.
Close enough.
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Insomnia wrote on 2012-01-09 10:12
Quote from radionoise;729280:
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Missing 0 damage and 0 crit from enchants.
Missing 8 damage and 3 crit from ego.
Missing 6 damage and 3.6 crit from skills.
Missing 11~12 damage from playing at freebirth age instead of ages 12 or 13.
Close enough.
:Q_______________
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Aubog007 wrote on 2012-01-09 13:04
Quote from radionoise;729280:
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Missing 0 damage and 0 crit from enchants.
Missing 8 damage and 3 crit from ego.
Missing 6 damage and 3.6 crit from skills.
Missing 11~12 damage from playing at freebirth age instead of ages 12 or 13.
Close enough.
Not 130% crit...
What is this.
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Archibald wrote on 2012-01-09 16:25
Quote from Aubog007;729555:
Not 130% crit...
What is this.
Index setup is including the crit from g16 he can get. So this is in anticipation of that. Which will have him at roughly 130 crit after its all said and done.
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TropicalCat wrote on 2012-01-09 18:52
Btw, How much will is added next gen? From MA skills.
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Cheerios wrote on 2012-01-09 19:39
~21%
150 will + 30 luck just from skills then you have +10 luck if you rb into merchant destiny + 0.5 luck per lv up like any other destiny or +10 will +0.5 will per lv if you rb into martial arts destiny
Considering anyone that does free rbs with merchant destiny + all martial arts r1 + money shot + at 80/20 will have ~60 luck from lving (+~33% crit total)
Considering a human that does free rbs with martial arts destiny + all martial arts at r1 + money shot + at 80/20 will have ~85 will from lving (+~30% crit total)
Since dexu is an elf, considering his crit now, after ranking money shot and all martial arts he'll have 123% crit. +~50% due destiny added stats at that lv (129/21)
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radionoise wrote on 2012-01-09 20:00
Quote from Aubog007;729555:
Not 130% crit...
What is this.
I switch to Vine headgear for +14% crit when I need it (or use HLB). Tho I hardly do, because ~100% is enough for tara elites save the bosses. Also, like zy said... +15% crit to ego from skills in g16 (+21% to HLB) as well as 6 more damage.
Reason I murder my luck so far below 0 is because I don't like spending NX on mabi anymore... this particular build makes it so I don't get penalized in critical compared to ages 12~13 when freebirthing and at most only miss out on ~30 dex from levels which is barely noticeable at that point.
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Sapphireoath wrote on 2012-01-10 05:04
*sigh* I want my Range Elf to be like that someday D:
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ghowell wrote on 2012-01-10 05:14