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Oizen wrote on 2011-06-23 06:14
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So much hate. T_T
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Kollin wrote on 2011-06-23 06:22
because right now Evie, Karok, and Fiona all outclass Lann. now that seals of dedication are useless, theres no need to have a Lann in the party.
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Invertex wrote on 2011-06-23 06:28
Quote from Kollin;485752:
because right now Evie, Karok, and Fiona all outclass Lann. now that seals of dedication are useless, theres no need to have a Lann in the party.
To add to that, everyone (besides Sword Fionas) has comparable DPS to Lann with much better survivability. Since these Raids are usually 10 minutes or longer, feathers will run out eventually.
Also note that because Titan is once a day, and resets at 1PM EST, a lot of the "pros" will have done it within a few hours. What you're seeing now are people who are doing it half a day later. I remember someone noting that the first few parties are extremely fast, then you get your pretty bad parties, then the last minute parties are also extremely fast.
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Conor wrote on 2011-06-23 06:36
I like Lanns. :(
Just not too many in my Thor/Titan party tijtitijtjitji
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Kollin wrote on 2011-06-23 06:40
all Lanns should just quit and reroll an Evie, Karok, or Fiona. your character died along with your spin2win and is now incredibly subpar.
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Oizen wrote on 2011-06-23 06:42
Quote from Kollin;485752:
because right now Evie, Karok, and Fiona all outclass Lann. now that seals of dedication are useless, theres no need to have a Lann in the party.
I love how Lann is getting the least amount of new skills too =/
its like the devs don't like him because he doesn't wear a bra.
I've noticed that Karoks while smashing pretty much avoid all attacks
Evies have their cheap shields, amber, and mid range damage
Fiona tanks everything
Lanns get...well .3 seconds of invincibility quickly made useless due to any slight combo made by a raid boss.
fml.
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Invertex wrote on 2011-06-23 06:49
Quote from OizenX;485775:
I love how Lann is getting the least amount of new skills too =/
its like the devs don't like him because he doesn't wear a bra.
I've noticed that Karoks while smashing pretty much avoid all attacks
Evies have their cheap shields, amber, and mid range damage
Fiona tanks everything
Lanns get...well .3 seconds of invincibility quickly made useless due to any slight combo made by a raid boss.
fml.
This isn't even the main problem. The main problem is that Lanns do not do a significantly higher ammount of damage to warrant always being on the verge of death. They need either a proper dodge (one of the things people want from a Spear revamp) or higher damage. Sword Fionas seem to be heading down that path as well, as the newer bosses all seem to have more and more unblockables.
Pretty much Lanns will get the short end of the stick until Devcat properly balances them. But honestly it isn't too hard to find a Titan party that lets Lanns in. Though I recommend you learn to use the ballista (if you haven't). It's an easy way to prevent people from complaining about you dying all the time.
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Kollin wrote on 2011-06-23 06:52
ill take Lanns in my party though. im an Evie, so whatever takes the bosses focus off of me is welcome. just run around and be the bait to distract the boss, thats all a Lann is good for now anyways.
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Oizen wrote on 2011-06-23 06:59
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This isn't even the main problem. The main problem is that Lanns do not do a significantly higher ammount of damage to warrant always being on the verge of death. They need either a proper dodge (one of the things people want from a Spear revamp) or higher damage. Sword Fionas seem to be heading down that path as well, as the newer bosses all seem to have more and more unblockables.
Pretty much Lanns will get the short end of the stick until Devcat properly balances them. But honestly it isn't too hard to find a Titan party that lets Lanns in. Though I recommend you learn to use the ballista (if you haven't). It's an easy way to prevent people from complaining about you dying all the time.
I like using ballistas lol.
I know what you mean too, and I doubt devcat will ever wake up and buff lanns (or by the time they do I will already have given up on him)
Its kinda sad to be the close range class which is usuall meant to deal big damage and take hits, when Lann can do neither. Which is sad, because he'd be such a fun class to play.
If people think Spears are weak, swords are worse on a Lann for damage, you pretty much trade any DPS for a dodge that actually works if you use swords instead of spears.
Quote from Kollin;485787:
ill take Lanns in my party though. im an Evie, so whatever takes the bosses focus off of me is welcome. just run around and be the bait to distract the boss, thats all a Lann is good for now anyways.
FML. T_T
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Kollin wrote on 2011-06-23 07:03
dont worry though, Lann still makes good eyecandy in some of his undies. Karok is too overly muscular for me.
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ByunTaengoo wrote on 2011-06-23 07:54
when you're PUG-ing it, you can probably be sure a party with >50% lanns will fail thor or titan
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Roy Mustang wrote on 2011-06-23 11:22
Quote from Kollin;485796:
dont worry though, Lann still makes good eyecandy in some of his undies. Karok is too overly muscular for me.
+rep
I agree. I dislike Manly muscular men like Karok. I prefer cute guys like Lann :awesome:
I don't really use my Lann. He's still level 3x. Whatever he was at when Evie's came out.
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foreignreign wrote on 2011-06-23 15:42
Actually, most people would be surprised how much damage a good spear Lann can put out even when he dies a lot.
I've been out-damaged on my hammer Fiona by a spear Lann on Titan. And said spear Lann died as much as you'd think he would. My hammer Fiona is nothing to scoff at, either.
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Arandroth wrote on 2011-06-23 16:08
HONESTLY GUYS, do you think tha dev and nexon will do a real Lanns Revamp?
Now i'm a spear user, and for reasons of force majeure i'll take swords.
but WHY, i say, WHY everybody is sooo boring with that story of damage?
at the beginning, i saw that evie, were concentrated on healing, buffing and other support stuff, fiona tanks and lann damaged bosses.
NOW is the opposite!
lann is a sort of... "support", evie damages, and fiona damages (new skill ftw) and tankss!!
is lann the only class who have the same skills from october??
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Oizen wrote on 2011-06-23 16:17
Quote from Arandroth;486083:
HONESTLY GUYS, do you think tha dev and nexon will do a real Lanns Revamp?
Now i'm a spear user, and for reasons of force majeure i'll take swords.
but WHY, i say, WHY everybody is sooo boring with that story of damage?
at the beginning, i saw that evie, were concentrated on healing, buffing and other support stuff, fiona tanks and lann damaged bosses.
NOW is the opposite!
lann is a sort of... "support", evie damages, and fiona damages (new skill ftw) and tankss!!
is lann the only class who have the same skills from october??
Pretty much.
Don't worry tho, Lann gets 1 new skill that is garunteed to do absolutely nothing in his favor. I mean yeah Fiona and Evie are getting 2+ but hey, thats fair.