Okay this is going too far.

• Kyreffer wrote on 2011-08-10 07:05
  Ok I need to confront him but I hafta find the right words.
• Zid wrote on 2011-08-10 07:40
  If he doesn't know a thing about computer hardware, simply just take out your HDD that your OS runs on, then when he tries to turn it on and can't do anything, say you found out he accidentally infected your computer with a severe rootkit that you will have to fix and buy and that it's more expensive and time-consuming to do so than his two other computers.
• Hiccup wrote on 2011-08-10 07:42

  Quote from Zid;546512:

  If he doesn't know a thing about computer hardware, simply just take out your HDD that your OS runs on, then when he tries to turn it on and can't do anything, say you found out he accidentally infected your computer with a severe rootkit that you will have to fix and buy and that it's more expensive and time-consuming to do so than his two other computers.

  
  
  DO IT!
• Yoorah wrote on 2011-08-10 07:44
  Why are you asking someone to lie to their father? O_o
  
  Anyway, just talk to him and tell him that this bugs you. Explain to him that your computer is a very personal thing to you and that you'd like your dad to avoid using it since he has another computer he can use.
• Hiccup wrote on 2011-08-10 07:46

  Quote from Yoorah;546522:

  Why are you asking someone to lie to their father? O_o
  
  Anyway, just talk to him and tell him that this bugs you. Explain to him that your computer is a very personal thing to you and that you'd like your dad to avoid using it since he has another computer he can use.

  
  I have to....
  
  If I try and explain something with the truth it makes the situation a ****ING **** LOAD WORSE!
  
  
  ;_;
• Yoorah wrote on 2011-08-10 07:49
  Especially if you try to do so after lying a bunch in the first place. :v
  I don't like it when people give stupid advice. :(
• Hiccup wrote on 2011-08-10 07:50
  No. If I start out with the truth they get mega-ridiculous. If I start out with a white lie I'm safer. I stopped trying to reason with em, cause no matter what "I have no logic"
• Yoorah wrote on 2011-08-10 07:51
  Well, don't assume other people should be in such unfortunate circumstances as well. :(
  I still think that lying only complicates things down the road.
• Zid wrote on 2011-08-10 07:52

  Quote from Yoorah;546522:

  Why are you asking someone to lie to their father? O_o
  
  Anyway, just talk to him and tell him that this bugs you. Explain to him that your computer is a very personal thing to you and that you'd like your dad to avoid using it since he has another computer he can use.

  
  
  The level of suggestion I made isn't necessarily "worse" than what the father is doing.
  
  But if it seems like stupid advice to you, then by all means do what one can in a certain threshold.
• Hiccup wrote on 2011-08-10 07:52
  /adding my personal experience
  /he has the option of taking it how he wants
• TA wrote on 2011-08-10 07:53
  Tell him if he likes your computer over his slow ass computers so much to build his own new one and stop commandeering yours. It's not fair to you.
  
  

  Quote from Yoorah;546522:

  Why are you asking someone to lie to their father? O_o
  
  Anyway, just talk to him and tell him that this bugs you. Explain to him that your computer is a very personal thing to you and that you'd like your dad to avoid using it since he has another computer he can use.

  
  
  Basically this. But also explain that if it's a slowness problem with his computers and he really feels the need for a faster computer all the time, that he should really invest in his own rather than taking yours all the time, because you use yours and would prefer to be the only one that uses yours because you do things that are important to you on your computer, even if he doesn't find them important - it doesn't matter. He should respect what is important to you.
  
  Explain how taking it while you're talking to friends would be like just grabbing the phone while he was talking on it, hanging it up and saying "Ah, well... You're not doing anything important. I need to use your phone for awhile." It's just rude.
  
  And explain how closing your shop is detrimental to your game since it means you can't sell anything and can't profit and won't be able to provide for yourself in your game which you enjoy as a hobby, and you paid for and built your computer so you could do these things, and he's taking it all away for his own selfish reasons, when there's just no need for it.
• Strawberry wrote on 2011-08-10 07:54
  Sounds like a pain to deal with it...But yeah, if he pays the bills and all for your Internet, then it's really why he can put so much confidence in that kind of reason.
  Tell him politely to use his functional computer, and that if he's taken a liking to it, then he should also build one himself, if he wants a built computer. Your efforts weren't really made for taking, isn't that right?
  
  If they think that Maple is the only game you play, then there is no need to tell them you play other games. Whatever they will do they think is right, if they just listen to their child for once, sometimes the child is right, and they need to reconsider their reasoning. Usually after that, both sides are understandable.
• Yoorah wrote on 2011-08-10 08:03

  Quote from Zid;546543:

  The level of suggestion I made isn't necessarily "worse" than what the father is doing.

  
  
  Yes, it is much worse. No offence, but I'm surprised you don't see the difference between his father's insensitive (I guess?) but totally harmless behaviour and your idea of introducing deception and lying to the household. O_o People who are raised well, are taught that trust and integrity are some of the most important founding blocks of the family. Breaking this principle over something as trivial as computer use... the thought of this saddens me. I do sincerely hope that your family relationships are well and that you only posted that as a result of not thinking it through well enough.
• Zid wrote on 2011-08-10 08:31

  Quote from Yoorah;546580:

  Yes, it is much worse. No offence, but I'm surprised you don't see the difference between his father's insensitive (I guess?) but totally harmless behaviour and your idea of introducing deception and lying to the household. O_o People who are raised well, are taught that trust and integrity are some of the most important founding blocks of the family. Breaking this principle over something as trivial as computer use... the thought of this saddens me. I do sincerely hope that your family relationships are well and that you only posted that as a result of not thinking it through well enough.

  
  
  His father's "insensitive but totally harmless behaviour" doesn't seem so to me, especially since like TA said, that's how he's treating his son right now. How you treat someone else (regardless of family ties or not) constitute a major part of that person's character as well. So yes, I do see what his father does on a lower level than what you see.
  
  Your point about being raised on trust and integrity is fine in necessary child morality growth, but I'm not going to assume about the OP's depth of maturity to tell him what's right or wrong, nor let morals be a part of a suggestion when he didn't ask for "the moral thing to do" in the first place.
  
  No, my relationships with most of my family are not well, and I will admit deception is part of that. But I will not admit it's an error of my thinking especially after the squabbles of morality I've seen, and I would rather not have such familial ties (and this is before any deception was going on).
  
  Am I saying lying's okay? No. Am I saying it's not? Limited answer.
• Sumpfkraut wrote on 2011-08-10 08:40

  Quote from Kyreffer;546341:

  He'll tell me to unlock it because, ehem
  
  "What if I have to do something important?!?!?!"
  
  ;-;

  
  Get back with the argument that his computer works perfectly fine.