While exploring kr test i found this little thing

• M wrote on 2011-09-01 21:20
  Besides if it only took 2 days to get it, it wouldn't be as cool ^-^ the fact it takes effort that can't be bought (ducats cant be traded can they?) makes it cooler :D
• Maenad wrote on 2011-09-01 21:23

  Quote from Maia;574209:

  Besides if it only took 2 days to get it, it wouldn't be as cool ^-^ the fact it takes effort that can't be bought (ducats cant be traded can they?) makes it cooler :D

  
  
  I hope some of the more epic ducat bought items aren't tradeable themselves.
• M wrote on 2011-09-01 21:24

  Quote from Araria;574212:

  I hope some of the more epic ducat bought items aren't tradeable themselves.

  
  
  Same- like all of them.
• Justified wrote on 2011-09-01 21:27

  Quote from Maia;574209:

  Besides if it only took 2 days to get it, it wouldn't be as cool ^-^ the fact it takes effort that can't be bought (ducats cant be traded can they?) makes it cooler :D

  
  
  Yea but, given the option of one sword, an Ego would be better since it surpasses that Max and is insanely easy to repair (Gladius/Bastard Sword) with no fail chance. It probably doesn't take 300 hours of feeding to break 160 Max. [AFK time not included since you're not actually playing]
  
  Of course I'm still gonna go for it, but the cost-benefit seems a bit low until we see the higher exchange rates.
• Maenad wrote on 2011-09-01 21:28

  Quote from Maia;574213:

  Same- like all of them.

  
  
  If they are, first day of G15, 1532456876 parties:
  B>Calacbolg
  B>Drain Wand
  B>Portia Bow
  B>Tyrfing
  B>Venom Sword
  
  donotwant
  how about they learn to do some actual work :D
• M wrote on 2011-09-01 21:32

  Quote from Justified;574215:

  Yea but, given the option of one sword, an Ego would be better since it surpasses that Max and is insanely easy to repair (Gladius/Bastard Sword) with no fail chance. It probably doesn't take 300 hours of feeding to break 160 Max. [AFK time not included since you're not actually playing]
  
  Of course I'm still gonna go for it, but the cost-benefit seems a bit low until we see the higher exchange rates.

  
  
  A level 41 social ego takes over 1500 hours (and 60-65m at the cheapest). AFK time is still time you cant use your character for other things, like running those caravans. Can't really say AFK time doesn't count since that's the only time it takes lol Also I don't see 1h swords egoes as even worth it anymore since elsinore + this is almost as good... if I wanted to be melee I'd go for that and keep my nice ego bow. 3 ego-par weapons on hand ftw anyway I'm not melee, but the sword does look nice. I want it because it's lightning, and Reyaxris is lightning so maybe I'm just in to lightning
  
  Also, what is the attk speed and hit # on it if anyone knows?
• Justified wrote on 2011-09-01 21:37

  Quote from Maia;574219:

  A level 41 social ego takes over 1500 hours. AFK time is still time you cant use your character for other things, like running those caravans. Can't really say AFK time doesn't count since that's the only time it takes lol Also I don't see 1h swords egoes as even worth it anymore since elsinore + this is almost as good... if I wanted to be melee I'd go for that and keep my nice ego bow. 3 ego-par weapons on hand ftw anyway I'm not melee, but the sword does look nice. I want it because it's lightning, and Reyaxris is lightning so maybe I'm just in to lightning

  
  
  Unless you're actively playing Mabi 24-7, I say it doesn't count.
  Also you're not fighting bandits the entire time you're running Caravans, so all non-combat activities that allow you to hold your ego also don't count, while still aiding in the process.
  And if you actually use your Ego because it's better than other weapons you have, that time doesn't count.
  
  The only time that would count is the time that raising your ego actually takes away from doing other things. Which for most people, is only the few minutes they spend actually feeding it.
  
  Unlike Caravans, which you would devote your entire time to. At least with Elsinore, the abysmal drop rate is masked by the experience gain and prizes of Theater Missions, and isn't just for getting the sword.
• M wrote on 2011-09-01 21:45

  Quote from Justified;574221:

  Unless you're actively playing Mabi 24-7, I say it doesn't count.
  Also you're not fighting bandits the entire time you're running Caravans, so all non-combat activities that allow you to hold your ego also don't count, while still aiding in the process.
  And if you actually use your Ego because it's better than other weapons you have, that time doesn't count.
  
  The only time that would count is the time that raising your ego actually takes away from doing other things. Which for most people, is only the few minutes they spend actually feeding it.
  
  Unlike Caravans, which you would devote your entire time to. At least with Elsinore, the abysmal drop rate is masked by the experience gain and prizes of Theater Missions, and isn't just for getting the sword.

  
  
  I don't know anyone 41+ who just feeds their ego for a couple minutes lol 1500 hours 24/7 is still 62+ days, which is 2x how long it would take to get that sword. And I'm rounding down. I'm not saying egoes aren't great, endgame they are. But when you consider I could have that lightning sword (or just 2x of those swords in 60 days), a level 4X ego bow, and an elsinore why would I sacrifice the bow for a couple more dmg with melee when I could keep it and be beast at both range And melee :o
  
  Also I'm not discrediting the elsinore, its insane to get. If someone wanted to be crazy damage with melee Id say get it. Thats why I use it in my examples too. My only comparison is "bow ego or sword ego" and whether or not to get the lightning sword. Lightning sword vs sword ego, I'd say the sword because then you can have another type of ego on your back
  
  edit: anyway this is just my opinion, I'm not trying to bash you in any way
• Balenciaga wrote on 2011-09-01 22:00
  Haven't confirmed this yet, but I think lightning sword can be enchanted just as Masterpiece Bow can be too?
• Kenero wrote on 2011-09-01 22:18
  Transferring Spirit Weapon is done through a quest talking to Tarlach, Berched, and Dorren, apparently there is 2 ways:
  
  1st method-
  -Talk to Tarlach with the keyword
  -Prepare 30 elemental removals, 5 Spirit Revival Potions, 1 Spirit Liqueur, 1 Spirit Dream Liqueur, and the new weapon you want to transfer on (Have to be 100% and 80% dura).
  -Transferred old weapon will become normal weapon keeping and retain metal tool enhancement. The new weapon will not retain the metal enhancements of the old weapon.
  -Old weapon's stat will be NPC shop version of the weapon.
  -You cannot change spirit's name
  - Weapon has to be within its own class Bow -> Bow or Sword -> Sword
  
  2nd method-
  -Talk to Dorren with the keyword
  -Prepare 30 elemental removals, 5 Spirit Revival Potions, 1 Spirit Liqueur, 1 Spirit Dream Liqueur, 2 Spirit Sealing Liqueur and the new weapon you want to transfer on (Have to be 100% and 80% dura), and the Spirit Stone of the new weapon you want to transfer on.
  -Old weapon will completely disappear
  -New weapon will not retain metal toolkit enhancement
  -You have to rename your ego.
  - Weapon has to be outside its own class Bow -> Blunt or Sword -> Bow
  
  *Both methods have chance to lower Spirit Weapon's level unless you used Spirit Restore Liqueur before the ritual.
  
  Spirit Dream Liqueur -> Currently sold by Berched
  Spirit Seal Liqueur -> Currently Sold by Dorren
  Spirit Restoration Liqueur -> 100% Cash Shop item
  
  Thanks to Soluna
• Balenciaga wrote on 2011-09-01 22:22

  Quote from Kenero;574249:

  Transferring Spirit Weapon is done through a quest talking to Tarlach, Berched, and Dorren, apparently there is 2 ways:
  
  1st method-
  -Talk to Tarlach with the keyword
  -Prepare 30 elemental removals, 5 Spirit Revival Potions, 1 Spirit Liqueur, 1 Spirit Dream Liqueur, and the new weapon you want to transfer on (Have to be 100% and 80% dura).
  -Transferred old weapon will become normal weapon keeping and retain metal tool enhancement. The new weapon will not retain the metal enhancements of the old weapon.
  -Old weapon's stat will be NPC shop version of the weapon.
  -You cannot change spirit's name
  - Weapon has to be within its own class Bow -> Bow or Sword -> Sword
  
  2nd methos-
  -Talk to Dorren with the keyword
  -Prepare 30 elemental removals, 5 Spirit Revival Potions, 1 Spirit Liqueur, 1 Spirit Dream Liqueur, 2 Spirit Sealing Liqueur and the new weapon you want to transfer on (Have to be 100% and 80% dura), and the Spirit Stone of the new weapon you want to transfer on.
  -Old weapon will completely disappear
  -New weapon will not retain metal toolkit enhancement
  -You have to rename your ego.
  - Weapon has to be outside its own class Bow -> Blunt or Sword -> Bow
  
  *Both methods have chance to lower Spirit Weapon's level unless you used Spirit Restore Liqueur before the ritual.
  
  Spirit Dream Liqueur -> Currently sold by Berched
  Spirit Seal Liqueur -> Currently Sold by Dorren
  Spirit Restoration Liqueur -> 100% Cash Shop item
  
  Thanks to Soluna

  
  
  Already update my thread with this info o o
• M wrote on 2011-09-01 22:29

  Quote from Kenero;574249:

  Transferring Spirit Weapon is done through a quest talking to Tarlach, Berched, and Dorren, apparently there is 2 ways:
  
  1st method-
  -Talk to Tarlach with the keyword
  -Prepare 30 elemental removals, 5 Spirit Revival Potions, 1 Spirit Liqueur, 1 Spirit Dream Liqueur, and the new weapon you want to transfer on (Have to be 100% and 80% dura).
  -Transferred old weapon will become normal weapon keeping and retain metal tool enhancement. The new weapon will not retain the metal enhancements of the old weapon.
  -Old weapon's stat will be NPC shop version of the weapon.
  -You cannot change spirit's name
  - Weapon has to be within its own class Bow -> Bow or Sword -> Sword
  
  2nd methos-
  -Talk to Dorren with the keyword
  -Prepare 30 elemental removals, 5 Spirit Revival Potions, 1 Spirit Liqueur, 1 Spirit Dream Liqueur, 2 Spirit Sealing Liqueur and the new weapon you want to transfer on (Have to be 100% and 80% dura), and the Spirit Stone of the new weapon you want to transfer on.
  -Old weapon will completely disappear
  -New weapon will not retain metal toolkit enhancement
  -You have to rename your ego.
  - Weapon has to be outside its own class Bow -> Blunt or Sword -> Bow
  
  *Both methods have chance to lower Spirit Weapon's level unless you used Spirit Restore Liqueur before the ritual.
  
  Spirit Dream Liqueur -> Currently sold by Berched
  Spirit Seal Liqueur -> Currently Sold by Dorren
  Spirit Restoration Liqueur -> 100% Cash Shop item
  
  Thanks to Soluna

  
  
  Does the weapon you transfer the ego onto if it's bow->bow keep its toolkit? IE Wing bow -> HLB with +1000 range, do you keep the range?
  
  With the NX item, does it 100% protect against lvl loss?
• Balenciaga wrote on 2011-09-01 22:31

  Quote from Maia;574261:

  Does the weapon you transfer the ego onto if it's bow->bow keep its toolkit? IE Wing bow -> HLB with +1000 range, do you keep the range?
  
  With the NX item, does it 100% protect against lvl loss?

  
  +1000 Range would stay on your wingbow and if you had any enhancements don on your HLB, it would stay as well.
  NX pot protects not only the level but your current exp as well. It saves 100%.
• M wrote on 2011-09-01 22:33

  Quote from Balenciaga;574264:

  +1000 Range would stay on your wingbow and if you had any enhancements don on your HLB, it would stay as well.

  
  
  Ok cool, yeah I Just finished reading it off of your thread XD thanks. That's cool. I'm going to make a beast HLB, Arbalest, and wing bow and switch between the 3 maybe XD.... assuming it's 100% stat xfer with NX pot and it's not insanely difficult to get the items
• Justified wrote on 2011-09-01 22:54

  Quote from Maia;574227:

  I don't know anyone 41+ who just feeds their ego for a couple minutes lol 1500 hours 24/7 is still 62+ days, which is 2x how long it would take to get that sword.
  
  edit: anyway this is just my opinion, I'm not trying to bash you in any way

  
  
  I know some people with strong Egos, and that's just from passive feeding. Although some of those Egos were broken already for newer ones.
  Leaving Mabi on while they go eat/sleep/internet/school, holding Ego while waiting for partymembers/spawn lag/cont warp/ptj, etc.
  Once your Ego is strong and you use it in daily combat, the time spent raising it virtually becomes nothing, as you'll always have it in your hand and it will always be growing.
  
  There's so much multi-tasking you can do while raising your Ego, while the same cannot be said Caladbolg. No doubt you could obtain it before an end-game Ego, but the actual time consciously spent getting it is much, much higher.
  Which is why I say it's a lower cost-benefit.
  
  And because everything is easier to understand with an analogy, it's like cooking rice. The process itself can take like 15-20 minutes, but you only spend 1-2 minutes putting the rice into the steamer. The rest of the time you're not actually cooking it, it's cooking itself.
  Meanwhile if you're cooking something like Eggs, you need to tend to it the entire time. You can't just leave a bunch of ingredients on the stove and come back to a perfectly cooked omelette.
  
  

  Quote from Kenero;574249:

  Transferring Spirit Weapon is done through a quest talking to Tarlach, Berched, and Dorren, apparently there is 2 ways:
  
  1st method-
  2nd method-
  
  Thanks to Soluna

  
  
  Blue Gladius ---method 1---> Random Other Sword ---method 2---> Wand Ego
  
  Because I want to keep my Blue Gladius, of course.