Things people don't know.

• Kollin wrote on 2011-10-20 23:30
  May contain spoilers.
  
  
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]*Kai was supposed to be released even before Evie was, but they didn't like how he played so they decided to rework him.
  *Technically, the Fomors are a group of races, not one singular race. (Though in mabi it is rumored that the shadow monsters in the shadow realm are actual Fomors, but I personally think they are the deceased Partholonians because it was explained that the shadow realm was created by the negative emotions of the Partholonian Prince, also known as the Python Knight, from having his civilization destroyed by the jealous Gods/Goddesses. Feel free to present any evidence on this.)
  *Dark Knights are not evil, they actually serve Morrighan more closely than Paladins. (Can't tell you how many people think otherwise.)
  *With all of Lann's shortcomings, he isn't actually an absolutely crappy character, he just requires skill to play.
  *The vampires are not part of the Fomorian army, they came from another world entirely after an accident caused by the Pontiff Court that summoned them here. The goblins met in Ainle are under the control of the vampires, more than likely through mind control of some sort. (which would explain why they are so slow and inactive compared to the more hyper ones in the Fomorian Base.)
  *Glas Ghaibhleann is actually a failed summoning by Brynn to summon the Goddess into the world.
  *The polar bear is NOT a Fomor, it is just an enraged animal. (I facepalm whenever someone says it is.)
  *The Spider Queen (which is its actual name, people just call it Weeping Queen because of the mission) is the mother of Wenshardt, the spider you kill in the prologue who was controlled by Beraphim (who makes an appearance in a later boss fight), the hooded figure you see after killing the spider.
  *The entrance to Albey is actually in the sewers. This makes a lot more sense when you realize that Verafim, in Ingkara's intro cutscene, seemingly leaves the room when you're at the only entrance. He actually just went off to Albey.
  *Brynn is actually very weak by the way, because of the summoning. He will die if he leaves the magic laboratory, the magic barrier there is actually protecting him. That's also why he always ask you to do something, and never come out to do it himself, even if it's very simple thing.
  *Thor is lizard's god; unfortunately, the lizard hold no religious respect to Thor. God to them is more like a tool and disposable, seeing how they plan on stealing the Fomor god when Erinn arrives (with Fomarian Domination I believe); and how they never even bother helping Thor when you are slaughtering it.
  *The court actually built the sewer for the lizardmen, because they don't want human to win.[/SPOILER]
  
  You may feel free to add in more.
• Invertex wrote on 2011-10-20 23:36
  Most of these are actually just story points that come up as long as you don't skip everything.
  
  Anyways.
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]The entrance to Albey is actually in the sewers. This makes a lot more sense when you realize that Verafim, in Ingkara's intro cutscene, seemingly leaves the room when you're at the only entrance. He actually just went off to Albey.[/SPOILER]
• Kollin wrote on 2011-10-20 23:39

  Quote from Invertex;628810:

  Most of these are actually just story points that come up as long as you don't skip everything.
  
  Anyways.
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]The entrance to Albey is actually in the sewers. This makes a lot more sense when you realize that Verafim, in Ingkara's intro cutscene, seemingly leaves the room when you're at the only entrance. He actually just went off to Albey.[/SPOILER]

  
  
  Yes, but you would be surprised how many people skip all of this. Then later they want to know/Tell people information that is wrong thinking they know even though they skipped it all.
• Invertex wrote on 2011-10-20 23:43
  Honestly, the plot is pretty bad until you get to the later parts of Boat 6 (around the mission Colhen in Flames). It gets pretty good after that.
  
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]Anyways, another thing I thought was interesting. When Neven (or whatever her name is) is giving you riddles to tell you where you need to go (Albey), she says "You've already been there" (or something to that effect). I found it a nice touch, since not only is it referencing how the entrance to Albey is in the sewers, but I thought that it was also mentioning Mabi, and how you've already been to Albey in Mabi.[/SPOILER]
• blizzire wrote on 2011-10-21 00:04
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]I thought it was Brynn who tried to summon the Goddess but ended up summon Glas instead, and the Pontiff Court just took advantage of it. [/SPOILER]
• TLCBonaparte wrote on 2011-10-21 00:21

  Quote from Invertex;628825:

  Honestly, the plot is pretty bad until you get to the later parts of Boat 6 (around the mission Colhen in Flames). It gets pretty good after that.
  
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]Anyways, another thing I thought was interesting. When Neven (or whatever her name is) is giving you riddles to tell you where you need to go (Albey), she says "You've already been there" (or something to that effect). I found it a nice touch, since not only is it referencing how the entrance to Albey is in the sewers, but I thought that it was also mentioning Mabi, and how you've already been to Albey in Mabi.[/SPOILER]

  
  
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]I dono, the part where the Cadet died was pretty emotional :([/SPOILER] Sure nothing major plotwise, but still pertty good story.
• MareneCorp wrote on 2011-10-21 01:00

  Quote from TLCBonaparte;628892:

  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]I dono, the part where the Cadet died was pretty emotional :([/SPOILER] Sure nothing major plotwise, but still pertty good story.

  
  
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]The Royal Cadet set is Ellis's. I'm happy I got to be with him one last time :cryno:[/SPOILER]
• sakraycore wrote on 2011-10-21 01:19
  Yea I skipped it all except the EP8 storyline which I found pretty good.
• Invertex wrote on 2011-10-21 04:19

  Quote from TLCBonaparte;628892:

  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]I dono, the part where the Cadet died was pretty emotional :([/SPOILER] Sure nothing major plotwise, but still pertty good story.

  
  
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]I'll admit that was probably one of the better parts. My main problem is that the whole plot from Ep1 (not exactly sure what to call the base Perilous Ruin + Hoarfrost Hollow) until Hilder/Early Boat 6 can easily be sumarized as.
  
  You're a mercenary, yay. Kill Gnolls cause some spider went crazy, kill Kobolds since they're gathering, kill Vampires to figure out what happened at Ainle (you don't figure out until the later episodes), kill more random Gnolls who are gathering (the plot where there were two factions of Gnolls was okay), go deeper into Hoarfrost because there's some relic in there, do a bunch of mundane trials to get into the Royal Army, do a bunch of mundane tasks for the Royal Army.
  
  Not exactly the most thrilling of plots when 80% of it is spent doing errands for other people. The plot had it's good moments (Kristie lying about reading Fomorian, Ellis' death, flashbacks of Aodhan's past. But most of it is just really not that interesting. Meanwhile, since late Ep6 (until Ep9), we've had about 50 plot twists.[/SPOILER]
• TLCBonaparte wrote on 2011-10-21 04:44

  Quote from Invertex;629231:

  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]I'll admit that was probably one of the better parts. My main problem is that the whole plot from Ep1 (not exactly sure what to call the base Perilous Ruin + Hoarfrost Hollow) until Hilder/Early Boat 6 can easily be sumarized as.
  
  You're a mercenary, yay. Kill Gnolls cause some spider went crazy, kill Kobolds since they're gathering, kill Vampires to figure out what happened at Ainle (you don't figure out until the later episodes), kill more random Gnolls who are gathering (the plot where there were two factions of Gnolls was okay), go deeper into Hoarfrost because there's some relic in there, do a bunch of mundane trials to get into the Royal Army, do a bunch of mundane tasks for the Royal Army.
  
  Not exactly the most thrilling of plots when 80% of it is spent doing errands for other people. The plot had it's good moments (Kristie lying about reading Fomorian, Ellis' death, flashbacks of Aodhan's past. But most of it is just really not that interesting. Meanwhile, since late Ep6 (until Ep9), we've had about 50 plot twists.[/SPOILER]

  
  
  
  True. I consider pre ep 6 plots build ups though. Even in greatest novels things don't get exciting right away :D
• Invertex wrote on 2011-10-21 04:48

  Quote from TLCBonaparte;629268:

  True. I consider pre ep 6 plots build ups though. Even in greatest novels things don't get exciting right away :D

  
  
  Half a year of build up is a bit excessive though. I know it's build up, but it's still really boring and mundane (with the sheer number of errands you run).
  At least 50% of the battles are because "Oh, go get me something for no reason" and add little to nothing to the plot. Plus, who remembers the build up in novels versus the actual climax.
• TLCBonaparte wrote on 2011-10-21 05:24

  Quote from Invertex;629273:

  Half a year of build up is a bit excessive though. I know it's build up, but it's still really boring and mundane (with the sheer number of errands you run).
  At least 50% of the battles are because "Oh, go get me something for no reason" and add little to nothing to the plot. Plus, who remembers the build up in novels versus the actual climax.

  
  
  nobody remembers the build up, yet there it is lol. Oh well.
• Overblood wrote on 2011-10-21 09:24

  Quote from blizzire;628863:

  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]I thought it was Brynn who tried to summon the Goddess but ended up summon Glas instead, and the Pontiff Court just took advantage of it. [/SPOILER]

  
  
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]I'm pretty sure Brynn just caused the whole Ainle vampire disaster[/SPOILER]
• Royale wrote on 2011-10-21 09:46

  Quote from Overblood;629572:

  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]I'm pretty sure Brynn just caused the whole Ainle vampire disaster[/SPOILER]

  
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]"Five years ago, some fool child tried to summon the
  goddess and bring Erinn to the world, all by himself.
  
  No one though he could succeed. So they paid the child
  no heed. But that boy was talented...
  
  He found a way to open the dimensional door in
  Catacomb. That night, many people died...
  
  That child was injured, too, and now he is confined
  to the magical protection offered by a Magic Laboratory.
  
  To leave that protection would mean certain death..."
  

  [Image: http://www.vindictuswiki.com/w/images/c/cd/Weeping_Forest_%28Dialogue%29.png]

  
  
  Brynn was the who summoned Glas in the catacombs, But was sealed by Reilly. The destruction of Ainle however was because of pontiff court did something summoned the vampires instead.*
  
  *The story about Ainle is really vague, it could also be that there were two attempts to summon the goddess, one by Brynn and one by the court, both summoned glas instead, but the first one was brandished by Reilly (or sealed somewhere else) and the second one was sealed by the dark brotherhood in the catacombs
  so that means Ainle has been destroyed couple of times already, but right now it's becausethe summoning of glas by the court weakened the boundary of demisons allowing the vampires to force their way in much more easily (the vampires has forced their way into Ainle before)
  
  
  on a side-note, this Glas we fight in vind is the same Glas from mabinogi G1. Right now he has his soul, in g1 its just his body rebuilt by formors.
  [/SPOILER]
• Arandroth wrote on 2011-10-21 11:56
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]
  <<That child was injured, too, and now he is confined
  to the magical protection offered by a Magic Laboratory.
  
  To leave that protection would mean certain death..." >>
  
  why it couldn't be nyle? i don't think he's much older than nyle..[/SPOILER]