Can you argue/debate with people but still get along?

• Chockeh wrote on 2011-12-31 13:54
  I'm led by my emotions, so debating often leads into arguments. I also have a hard time expressing my opinions.
• Zid wrote on 2011-12-31 15:55
  I do get along with people I have intelligent and/or intense debates or arguments with. In the end, it's just a matter of whether or not I respect the other's decision and vice versa.
  
  When I think about, some of my closest friends I've ever had, I debated with constantly. I believe it's because we learn more about each other, and it builds a lot of trust in an interesting sort of way. Perhaps this is why I feel closer to Adelynn after a while, from finishing a debate or argument with her.
  
  Obviously, there are people I fell out of favor after a debate or argument. That's because they refuse to understand, accept, or even respect my opinion. Seeing as they don't do that, I feel much less compelled to return the favor. And it strains the relationship.
  
  Excellent example of that: my parents.
• Claudia wrote on 2011-12-31 16:44
  I would say yes. On the forums I think it happens more often, but also off the forums. A friend and I continuously have the same debate over this one thing that drives us both crazy, and even though we both disagree on it, we obviously still get along.
  
  There are just some people here that drive(err-hem, drove now) me bat-**** crazy though, and we never agree on anything.
  Mercifully, most of the time I butt heads with certain people and after a while we agree to disagree, and then we become friends. I imagine this has happened to me with almost every single person at the Nation.
• Cynic wrote on 2011-12-31 16:56

  Quote from Zid;714869:

  I do get along with people I have intelligent and/or intense debates or arguments with. In the end, it's just a matter of whether or not I respect the other's decision and vice versa.
  
  When I think about, some of my closest friends I've ever had, I debated with constantly. I believe it's because we learn more about each other, and it builds a lot of trust in an interesting sort of way. Perhaps this is why I feel closer to Adelynn after a while, from finishing a debate or argument with her.
  
  Obviously, there are people I fell out of favor after a debate or argument. That's because they refuse to understand, accept, or even respect my opinion. Seeing as they don't do that, I feel much less compelled to return the favor. And it strains the relationship.
  
  Excellent example of that: my parents.

  
  
  Honestly, I do try and respect everyone's opinion, but when it comes to certain things (even if they are considered a debatable subject or one which there are multiple opinions that can be "right" or "wrong"), I'm a real dick. Probably because I'm the type who doesn't believe in or stand by something unless it's worth doing so. That probably makes me sound terribly ignorant, but honestly, I never really cared.
  
  I've noticed that most of the time, though, I only tend to not give a crap about the opposing argument when the opposing side is the one not caring in the first place. (Religious people being against LGBT rights is a great example of that) Though there is maybe 1 exception to that rule.
• animeshadows wrote on 2011-12-31 17:35
  I can. Usually the other person cannot and takes it personally, however, and it makes me sad.
• lightychan wrote on 2011-12-31 18:35
  just don't be dicks when you argue/debate. Consider the other person's opinions as well and don't be so stuck up and arrogant. I love debating and arguing.
• Cynic wrote on 2011-12-31 18:39

  Quote from lightychan;715086:

  just don't be dicks when you argue/debate. Consider the other person's opinions as well and don't be so stuck up and arrogant. I love debating and arguing.

  
  
  I follow that rule to the dot, unless they clearly are wrong. Which believe it or not, does and can happen.
  Sadly there are a few people on here who believe in disgusting/offensive/ridiculous things.
• Fracture wrote on 2011-12-31 18:49

  Quote from Episkey;714773:

  
  WHAT. I always got the impression that you were annoyed with me in that thread :fail2:
  But, thank you! You brought up many interesting points as well.
  Looking back, I never answered your post D:
  I must have been preoccupied with starting college at the time.

  
  
  Nah haha, I was cool with you. Any animosity I held in that thread was directed fully to Spartaaa. You were great, kept a level head, and didn't just pull a LALALA I'M NOT LISTENING to anything that didn't fit with what you believed. Unlike some people. /cough
  
  As for the people saying they can only keep calm when it's not something really serious like LGBT or whatever-- I face the problem of that being pretty much the only time I involve myself. I usually get into debates against people because they're being hateful and ignorant, often using their religion as an excuse, so I rarely feel much but anger.
• Moppy wrote on 2011-12-31 18:54
  It really depends on who you are debating with. One of my best buds is hardcore about questioning every single thing I say so we have a lot of back and forths. While we are serious about finding out who is right, we tend to make jokes and have fun while we debate. My other friends kinda get put off by it though.
• Cynic wrote on 2011-12-31 19:09

  Quote from Fracture;715113:

  Nah haha, I was cool with you. Any animosity I held in that thread was directed fully to Spartaaa. You were great, kept a level head, and didn't just pull a LALALA I'M NOT LISTENING to anything that didn't fit with what you believed. Unlike some people. /cough
  
  As for the people saying they can only keep calm when it's not something really serious like LGBT or whatever-- I face the problem of that being pretty much the only time I involve myself. I usually get into debates against people because they're being hateful and ignorant, often using their religion as an excuse, so I rarely feel much but anger.

  
  
  I can agree with that, though I seem to get into debates of all kind lately, intentional or not.
  It's kind of funny since I am usually a very hard person to piss off given I could care less about just about anything, but certain debates/arguments are an insta-hulk button for me. So I'm not surprised most people see me as a pissy asshole, all things considered.
• lightychan wrote on 2011-12-31 19:10

  Quote from Fracture;715113:

  I usually get into debates against people because they're being hateful and ignorant, often using their religion as an excuse, so I rarely feel much but anger.

  
  
  daw :x
  Sorry to hear that. I'm a religious person myself and well... whenever I hear people trying to take advantage of religion like an instant win card, it makes me feel disappointed at those types of people >.>
  Religion is something that you can't really argue with because it's like... :v a person's deepest beliefs err... something like that.
  Anyways, religion shouldn't be used in debates.
• Cynic wrote on 2011-12-31 19:14

  Quote from lightychan;715142:

  daw :x
  Sorry to hear that. I'm a religious person myself and well... whenever I hear people trying to take advantage of religion like an instant win card, it makes me feel disappointed at those types of people >.>
  Religion is something that you can't really argue with because it's like... :v a person's deepest beliefs err... something like that.
  Anyways, religion shouldn't be used in debates.

  
  
  tru dat.
  
  As they say; religion is just another form of politics.
• Fracture wrote on 2011-12-31 23:13

  Quote from lightychan;715142:

  daw :x
  Sorry to hear that. I'm a religious person myself and well... whenever I hear people trying to take advantage of religion like an instant win card, it makes me feel disappointed at those types of people >.>
  Religion is something that you can't really argue with because it's like... :v a person's deepest beliefs err... something like that.
  Anyways, religion shouldn't be used in debates.

  
  
  It's not used as an insta-win so much as an excuse. People seem to think it's okay to be misogynist, racist and homophobic "'cause god says so." As for not being able to debate religion, I do it all the time. Sometimes there is total conviction, and other times it just takes a well-reasoned argument to plant the seeds of doubt and make people start to question everything a bit more.
  
  As far as I'm concerned organized religion should not exist. I have no issue with people upholding a metaphysical belief-- but it should be their own. Given that it's metaphysical, nobody is more likely to be right than anyone else. My spiritual views, your god, the hallucinations of a meth-head-- all are just as likely to be right. With that in mind, why should anyone accept anything they are told about the metaphysical? The priest/preacher/whatever has no more authority on the matter than you do.
  
  I don't intend to start a debate and hijack the thread, it's just that I think the issue with people using religion in debates is that they're following a faith that is not their own. They allow someone else to define for them what is right and wrong.
• Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-01-01 22:59
  Yeah I guess. But I'm generally not one for holding grudges or anything like that so that comes naturally.
• Kayate wrote on 2012-01-01 23:01
  I do it almost all the time with one of my friends we still best buds