I hate Lann trollers

• Invertex wrote on 2012-01-10 22:32

  Quote from MareneCorp;731127:

  More about the image that other people are presented.
  
  In Glas, grabbing scenes for each of the characters.
  >Karok gets grabbed- That's okay, Karok's a rare character anyway and he's so buff~
  >Fiona gets grabbed- That's cool, they tried their best and always turtles the attacks for us anyway~
  >Evie gets grabbed- That's okay, you do EVERYTHING for us anyway~
  >Lann gets grabbed- LOL NOOB GO DIE IN A HOLE AND GET A LIFE YOU DOOSH LOL LOOK AT THAT NOOB LOL GO SUCK YOUR MOTHER'S ROD
  
  Wdf? Get grabbed once and you're condemned.
  
  All characters have similar survivability, Evie's amber can break/blink timing fail, Fiona runs out of stam or something, Karok misplaces a shock absorb, Lann misses a slip dash. Everyone is judged harshly, but not as harshly as a Lann would be. If you only had room for one more in your, say, Colru party, would you rather take the 13k attack Lann or 13k attack Evie?

  
  
  Honestly my thoughts are "Argh, someone got grabbed" when somebody gets hit by Glas' grab. I don't usually even check who got grabbed, only if I have the means to free them and if it's a critical grab.
  
  And the only things I see as a necesity in a Colru run are at least one/two Staff Evies for Green (since other classes have problems in that room without absurd stats) and at least one Fiona for Gray. Other then that, I couldn't care less about the rest of the party composition. I don't host, but as long as they don't die, I don't mind (and I trust people enough to know how to dodge Gold/Orange when they take those two. I don't expect Lanns to do well in the northern rooms).
  
  [S]Also I'd be afraid if it was a Staff Evie with 13k attack[/S]
• Oizen wrote on 2012-01-11 00:21
  For swords, all I really think is necessary to make an infinite chain of slip dashing, too many times sword lanns get killed by long lasting hit boxes due to how small their dodge is.
  
  Oh and definately a boost in attack to both types of weapons. Lann is too Crit reliant, which is a horrible role for this game.
• RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-01-11 00:54

  Quote from MareneCorp;731099:

  Right now, Lann is pay2win, or pay2getaccepted. If you don't have 12k-13k attack, booted. If you don't have 5.5k defense, booted. Not enough crit, attack speed? Booted. A revamp would be nice, but there aren't much abilities to give him other than a direct boost in his attack and defense, I can survive just fine with the invincibility frames I'm given now.

  
  You don't really need to pay real money to get 12K attack and 5.5K defense. Sell the scrolls you get from levelling up and you'll likely have enough for all that. You'll definitely have to do a bit of research, though, and know where to cut costs (don't buy a 7m ring when a 1m one is nearly as good, etc).
  
  I mean, theoretically you could get 17-18K attack without paying a cent, but you'd probably have to raid constantly, save up forever and be an adept merchant.
• MareneCorp wrote on 2012-01-11 00:59

  Quote from RebeccaBlack;731343:

  I mean, theoretically you could get 17-18K attack without paying a cent, but you'd probably have to raid constantly, save up forever and be an adept merchant.

  
  
  The problem is, you can't really go into raids with 11k attack and under 5k defense, especially being a Lann, no matter how good you are.
• Invertex wrote on 2012-01-11 01:38

  Quote from MareneCorp;731348:

  The problem is, you can't really go into raids with 11k attack and under 5k defense, especially being a Lann, no matter how good you are.

  
  
  For any new players, sell the Strong, Healthy, Significant, and Passion enchants from reaching Lv. 66-69 (Should just be Hidden solos).
  
  Should be an instant ~35m or so. Should be enough to at least get a proper weapon (+8 or so?) and armor set. Then you can start doing the raiding part.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-01-11 01:44
  My att is 13509
  My def is 5942
  Crit is 43
  Speed is 16
  
  (+10 Explosive Malestorm weapon)
  (All armor at +6)
  
  I AM THE SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE LANN!
• MareneCorp wrote on 2012-01-11 01:51

  Quote from OizenX;731434:

  My att is 13509
  My def is 5942
  Crit is 43
  Speed is 16
  
  (+10 Explosive Malestorm weapon)
  (All armor at +6)
  
  I AM THE SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE LANN!

  
  
  Darn, I didn't get to check my gear before the game went down. But I'm at the average Lann with about 12.5k attack and 6.3k defense.
• RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-01-11 01:54

  Quote from MareneCorp;731348:

  The problem is, you can't really go into raids with 11k attack and under 5k defense, especially being a Lann, no matter how good you are.

  
  I don't think this is really true. I go into many raids having been 13K+ for a while and see low attack people all the time... you might not be allowed into EVERY room, but it's not like you'll be kicked from most of them. It probably just sucks to get kicked from a room period, so those 13K+/other elitist rooms stand out more.