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Chockeh wrote on 2012-03-03 03:37
This thread is amazing.
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Lan wrote on 2012-03-03 03:41
Quote from The Hero Luka;794378:
WHERE THE HELL DID THE DE-REP BUTTON GO.
AMG YOU'RE SERIOUSLY PISSING ME OFF.
[SIZE="7"]YOU ARE SO WRONG ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY.[/SIZE]
Kitae don't just tell him he's wrong, explain why he is wrong.
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Chillax wrote on 2012-03-03 03:46
[abandon]Argument incoming[/abandon]
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Scarlet wrote on 2012-03-03 03:47
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[abandon]Argument incoming[/abandon]
[I][FONT="Times New Roman"]2late4dat[/FONT][/I]
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Cucurbita wrote on 2012-03-03 03:49
You know what scarlet, why don't you just go buy a pound of beef, and cut off the external layer only, since by your definitions, only the outside has bacteria on it. And then just eat the whole damn thing raw, no cooking.
Or better yet, why not take a chicken breast, and cook it rare? I'm sure half cooked chicken meat is delicious. Try it with pork too. They're healthy animals with immune systems!
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Scarlet wrote on 2012-03-03 03:52
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You know what scarlet, why don't you just go buy a pound of beef, and cut off the external layer only, since by your definitions, only the outside has bacteria on it. And then just eat the whole damn thing raw, no cooking.
Or better yet, why not take a chicken breast, and cook it rare? I'm sure half cooked chicken meat is delicious. Try it with pork too. They're healthy animals with immune systems!
[FONT="Times New Roman"]I've tried raw beef, and had no problem with it. As for chicken, they're mass produced with like thousands lined side by side in a cage, I doubt they're healthy and wouldn't want to try it. And I was talking about fresh meat, as in you just killed the thing -.-"
But people can consume a healthy chicken raw without getting illnesses.[/FONT]
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Episkey wrote on 2012-03-03 03:52
Well, I'm really surprised. Can we not have a decent thread with insults hurled at each other? :/
I'm requesting a lock then. It appears no one will further this thread academically.
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Cucurbita wrote on 2012-03-03 03:57
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[FONT="Times New Roman"]But people can consume a healthy chicken raw without getting illnesses.[/FONT]
Oh I'd LOVE to see you try this.
Since by your definition a chicken is no good, lets go with a Turkey. They're kept on open space. I'll even pay for the turkey, and given a clean new knife and everything. I want to see you feather the turkey, carve out its meat, and just eat it raw.
But I'm not paying for the hospital.
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Arsik wrote on 2012-03-03 04:41
Thread could have gone on without this pointless argument.
Scarlet, I'm not going to lie, but as a meat cutter, I know what you're saying is wrong. The immune system doesn't work when you're dead, so that argument is pretty bad. Have you heard of E.Coli? Salmonella? Things of those nature? Guess what, those are bacteria, and they live and grow in the animal, living or dead. The immune system can't kill off an infection/disease if it has no clue what that infection/disease is, which is why people recommend not eating meat entirely raw. Cooking meat kills off that bacteria, and depending on the bacteria, you need a higher temperature to do so. E.Coli is easier to kill with heat, which is why the recommended temperature for a beef steak is around 155 degrees Fahrenheit. Chicken, with it's Salmonella, needs a higher temperature, because the Salmonella is a little more resistant to heat. And want to know where these bacteria grow in the body of the bull or the chicken? I can tell you that these bacteria aren't found in the stomach, which is why farms can go under pretty quickly when it's found out that one of the bulls they supplied to a meat company was contaminated with E. Coli. So please, do a little research before you continue spouting such nonsense anymore.
And Kitae. Seriously?! Do you really need all that sarcasm to argue? Yes, Scarlet is wrong. It's fairly obvious to anyone that has taken any food related study, either culinary or basic food handling course in order to be able to work in any place that requires it, that Scarlet is wrong. But you really didn't need that sarcasm. You didn't need to tell him that you want to derep him because you found his argument stupid. And you don't need to tell him to go eat raw meat to prove your point, when he does have the point that not everyone gets sick from eating raw meat.
So I'm locking this thread. It's served it's purpose. Epi finished his report, which this topic was supposed to help him with the topic of the report. In the end, it just became an pointless argument because one side doesn't know what he's talking about, and another side got fed up with his stupidity.