Friend May Be Killing Themself

• Loopulse wrote on 2012-03-04 14:01

  Quote from Jana;796023:

  Someone who is really suicidal isn't going to simply stop just because someone talked to them. It's even been proven that a suicidal person who has decided to go through with it will act happy to those around them, largely because they've made their choice.
  
  Just... Call the number. For your friend's damned sake.

  
  
  She went to bed, and I'm going to bed too.
• Ithiliel wrote on 2012-03-04 14:03
  You should have called the number if she was serious. You waited for her to clear her mind about the subject? You do realize during that time she could have killed herself right? You should have called the damn number if you cared that much about her. Like Jana said, she could very easily be acting happy so you think she won't do it.
  
  God, it's things like this that always end up with, "The signs were there but nobody called for help".
• Jana wrote on 2012-03-04 14:05
  I don't know why I even bother. Good night.
• Loopulse wrote on 2012-03-04 14:07
  Just so y'all know. Putting me down isn't helping.
• Ithiliel wrote on 2012-03-04 14:12

  Quote from Loopulse;796032:

  Just so y'all know. Putting me down isn't helping.

  
  
  No, we're trying to talk sense into you. You based getting her help or not off of whether YOU thought it was right or not, if she is truly serious you don't think about getting her help-you get her help. No ifs, ands, or buts. Quite a few members tried telling you this, TA even GAVE you the number to the suicide hotline. Forgive us for not wanting to see another thread stating, "my friend killed herself last night" because you refused to listen to the people who were trying to get your friend help.
• Loopulse wrote on 2012-03-04 14:17

  Quote from Ithiliel;796035:

  No, we're trying to talk sense into you. You based getting her help or not off of whether YOU thought it was right or not, if she is truly serious you don't think about getting her help-you get her help. No ifs, ands, or buts. Quite a few members tried telling you this, TA even GAVE you the number to the suicide hotline. Forgive us for not wanting to see another thread stating, "my friend killed herself last night" because you refused to listen to the people who were trying to get your friend help.

  
  
  I can't force her. She'd be placed into a mental hospital.
  
  Remember, we're trying to put more sense into her, not me.
• Ithiliel wrote on 2012-03-04 14:24

  Quote from Loopulse;796038:

  I can't force her. She'd be placed into a mental hospital.
  
  Remember, we're trying to put more sense into her, not me.

  
  
  If she's that suicidal thinking then she NEEDS to be placed into care, why does it matter if she's being placed into a mental hospital if that means she'll be safe and taken care of? Suicide is NOT something to fuck around with and wait on. She obviously needs mental help if she's feeling suicidal, and if you honestly care about her well being you would tell someone who CAN help her.
  
  Clearly, you need to have sense knocked into you just as much if you're not seeking help based off of, "She'll be placed into a mental hospital". That doesn't matter, she needs help. Even if she doesn't commit suicide she still needs to seek help for those thoughts.
• ShadowFox31 wrote on 2012-03-04 14:33
  Loopulse.
  
  Think a little more with your heart. not your brain.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2012-03-04 15:02

  Quote from Loopulse;796038:

  I can't force her. She'd be placed into a mental hospital.
  
  Remember, we're trying to put more sense into her, not me.

  
  
  1. Being put into a mental hospital is better than dying.
  
  2. We're trying to put sense into YOU, not HER. The appropriate response to someone saying they have nothing to live for is calling the suicide hotline. I'm not exaggerating or pulling your leg, no matter how much you think "things will probably be alright". Anyways, they don't detain people or anything. They send professionals to help talk things over, and set up counseling programs.
  
  The response of calling the suicide hotline number is supposed to be as natural as calling poison control if you drank a cup of laundry detergent, or calling 911 if someone is having a stroke. You seem to be the only one in this thread that thinks this kind of response is unnatural.
  
  For future reference, and even now, you need to call the number for her.
  
  

  Quote from ShadowFox31;796042:

  Loopulse.
  
  Think a little more with your heart. not your brain.

  
  
  FEELING like things will be okay, and waiting on it is thinking with your heart. Loopulse needs to think with his brain. Which is calling the damn number.
• User495 wrote on 2012-03-04 17:45

  Quote from Loopulse;796032:

  Just so y'all know. Putting me down isn't helping.

  
  
  obviously, you're not helping either, you come on Nation to ask for advice? or what then you just totally blow everyone off when they try to give it to you, so what's the damn point?
  
  

  Quote from ShadowFox31;796042:

  Loopulse.
  
  Think a little more with your brain. not your heart.

  
  
  fixed
  
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• Subete wrote on 2012-03-04 19:37

  Quote from Loopulse;796032:

  Just so y'all know. Putting me down isn't helping.

  
  This is not about you. Its about her. If you truly cared about her you would have called the number. Even if she says that she is fine, its better to call just to be safe. Suicide isn't a joke. You should of taken it seriously and called, since thats really all YOU can do to help your friend. If she was serious, you really think letting her think and talking to her would have helped? It wouldn't have, not one bit.
• Loopulse wrote on 2012-03-04 23:22

  Quote from ShadowFox31;796042:

  Loopulse.
  
  Think a little more with your heart. not your brain.

  
  
  My brain said call, my heart told me to let her figure it out herself. That itself, is what made my decision tough. I bet half of you if not more of you had ever had to deal with a rare and unique situation like this, so please don't judge my actions too harshly.
• Ithiliel wrote on 2012-03-05 00:56

  Quote from Loopulse;796174:

  My brain said call, my heart told me to let her figure it out herself. That itself, is what made my decision tough. I bet half of you if not more of you had ever had to deal with a rare and unique situation like this, so please don't judge my actions too harshly.

  
  
  I can promise you I've had to deal with this more than once, with more than one person. You took a big gamble, and frankly I'm angry that you refused to listen to ANY of use who actually know what to do in a situation like this. If my sister had waited like you did to for me to "think if over", I would've been dead. She did the RIGHT thing by getting help for me, instead of worrying, "Oh but she might end up in the mental hospital".
• Cucurbita wrote on 2012-03-05 01:55

  Quote from Loopulse;796174:

  deal with a rare and unique situation like this

  
  
  When you're on fire, you stop, drop, and roll.
  When you're choking, you do the Heimlich maneuver.
  When you accidentally eat something thats labeled "do not eat", you can poison control.
  When someone is having a seizure, you catch them as to not hurt themselves, then call 911.
  
  These are all "rare and unique" situations. But the response is natural.
  
  I don't see why you don't think "someone talks of suicide" -> "calling suicide hotline" ISN'T the same type of natural reaction you're supposed to have, because it IS.
• Elena wrote on 2012-03-05 03:50
  Uhm...
  Did she say she was going to kill herself? Or did she imply that she felt accomplished in some way and wouldn't mind death if it came to her on its own...?